Hi Dave,

As a newcomer to this forum, you'll have to forgive for not immediately understanding what promted you to respond to this posing in such an aggressive way.

Help me understand what value it adds to this forum to have you accusing someone of being "pathetic"?

If I had a concern, it's that you seem compelled to respond to every email that really upset you, rather than letting some of them gently pass by.

I offer this as a constructive suggestion.

Regards,

Alan

Dave takes medication 3 times a day You obviously upset Him between dosages

Loftus Road is a fecking awful ground, "a little uncomfortable" is understating it, the seats could have been used for amputating legs during the Crimean War. They used to have seats that faced onto the adjoining stand too! The transport links are far worse than Twickenham, and as an area it's not particularly nice.

Sounds like RL56 is the one on sedatives.

Kumbaya anyone ?

How dare you insult Mecca! Only we are allowed to do this.

In all the time I've been going, I've never seen seats facing the adjoining stand!. The ground is so square that some in the corners are the wrong side of the fence that separates the stands, but I doubt we would ever have to use them. The transport links are worse than Twickenham only if you live in Twickenham. The area's not the greatest, but nothing's happened to me in 40 years going, nor to my car while I've been in the ground. Tip- park south of the Goldhawk Road. Loads of places to eat and drink before and after a game. There's no leg-room, but are you there to watch a game, or spread out and relax?

By the way, I'm happy where we are...

Well said, Chris. I completely agree with you.

Good point.

I do apologise for my earlier support of rupe1's original posting.

I think I must have mis-read this original posting as a plea to get some former fans enthusiastic about supporting the Quins again (which seems like a good idea).

On re-reading it, though, I confess I don't agree with sentiments expressed.

I'll be more careful in reading messages before I post in future.

Rupe is infamous on this forum. If it has his name on it they the default setting is "disagree"!!

No one seems to know who he is although Darth Chris has a T shirt proclaiming to be Rupe 1

Thanks for this reassurance.

Who is Darth Chris by the way?

Should I know him?

I've met Rupe. He flew all the way to Australia in 97 to see London's games there in the World Club Challenge.

It's slightly amusing to see some miserable gıts on here pontificating about his negativity.

Completely agree.

Doesn't anyone else remember that when QPR were in the Premiership (granted, you'd have to be quite old...) and they sold out Loftus Road, they actually printed tickets marked "DIABOLICAL VIEW" for certain areas of the ground?

The lack of leg room all over the stadium is ridiculous - you can't jump out of your seat in excitement (granted our matches at present produce little excitement) without grating your knees against the seat in front.

The stewards at Loftus Road also come armed with shoe horns, to prize everyone out of their seat at the end, so that they can go home.

I must admit I find myself in a similar position to rupe1, I have been following the club since the Chiswick era and have not been to a game at the Stoop for the last 2 seasons. The main reasons for this are :-

1 Lack of ambition at the club

2 Lack of intensity on the field at time

3 The dismissal of any opinions on this website which the "clique" do not agree with, I once posted a sarcastic thread about I.L. after he dumped us for Wigan and was rounded upon on here, and told by the clique that the club did not need supporters like me, so I obliged.

I thought the Quins tie up would be great for us and was a great supporter of it. I was one of the few that went to watch our first game against the Catalans at St Eteve. To be honest the organisation at tthat game was a joke, no programs, no publicity etc. But just look how far they have progressed while we have stood still or even gone backwards

I remember that thread. It was your first post as scimitars and a few people thought that you'd registered for the explicit purpose of having a dig.

I was one of those who accused you of trolling. Reason I did that was that I thought that "scimitars" was yet another identity adopted by a guy who was repeatedly negative and who kept trying to hide his identity (completely unsuccessfully as far as I was concerned) by periodic changes of name. Now I can see that I was wrong so I'll apologise for the error. Re-reading your dig at I.L. now, I can see that actually it's pretty good.



And the guy I thought you were? He's long gone.

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It is really good of a guy that dumped Quins RL for Wigan to still be putting 600K per year of his own money into the club, and for his company Work Place Systems to be sponsoring the club for no reason though!

Everyone is allowed their personal opinions, even if we may strongly disagree, at times it can feel supporters Have to keep the Party Line?

Harelquins RL is not about the Few Chosen! it is open to Anyone who wants to support Our Club!

Just re-read that thread. From what I can see 2 or 3 of the usual suspects had a dig at you, and the rest was pretty balanced - even little old me stuck up for you, bless my saintly soul. Anyway, my point is this: If that thread genuinely affected the way you feel about supporting the club at the time, then you're as ridiculously sensitive as that lot were pompous. Need to get some perspective mate!

You sir/madam are an @rse if you stopped going to games because Listy had a pop at you. The club needs supporters, regardless of their opinions and if you were a fan of the club for many years, I don't see why being "shot down in flames" would meake you do anything other than stop visiting this site.
Jesus, if was to take offence at every jibe or snipe directed at me, I would have stopped going to games the day I signed up on RLFANS.COM!
As for citting Lack of Ambition at the club.......I agree, but still go to games and hope that one day we find a sugar daddy who will block book Double Page Spreads in all the London papers. Until then, money is tight and whilst I will rant on about it, the club can't spend what it doesn't have. We tried that before and look where that got us!
As for lack of intensity on the field....whilst we do sometimes seem to be lacklustre, I am sure the players would like to argue that point with you face to face.....something that you can do at the club after games.

Lastly, IL did what any fan with funds would do and bought his hometown club. He still throws cash at us and IMO is a credit to both clubs and the game in general. The promotion of the Wigan Leeds game a few weeks back shows what can be done and I would suggest that if you want to ridicule anyone at the club for the clubs perceived lack of ambition, you point your accusing finger elsewhere.

Stick your principles where the sun doesn't shine and get your butt down to the stoop on Saturday and support your team!

It is a sad reflection how the "clique" have behaved in controlling forums and debate over the years. I presume it happens at most clubs? but to me it is the story of some with a little power!

Who's in this clique then? I've not been aware of one on here before

In fact, the only clique I can think of is that containing a series of bitter moaners who want to see a return to the good old days and can't possibly embrace the present and look forward to the future.

I would put you a the top of the clique list Lister, I don't want to see a return to the good old days as they were not that good. It just seems to me that is anyone expresses a view on here that is slightly controversial they are often told to bu@@er off as the club does not need supporters like them when in fact the club needs every supporter it can get.

And in that way you and your cronies are doing the club a great disservice.

IF you are not aware of "The Clique" don't worry about it Dave stay in your own world, and NO I don't live in the Past, Thanks! but I am willing to accept reality even though at times it hurts.

The cry of clique is usually the only response internet users have when their points of view are so flimsy as to be shot down in flames by more than one person giving reasons as to why their flimsy points of view are not actually robust enough to encourage debate.

Said posters usually then moan on year after year about cliques and "stifled debate" as a sop to their own self importance, or lack of. They always miss somehow the debates where robust opinions are offered and debated against because that would negate their own percieved valued opinions.

Victim mentality I believe it is known as.

And you would be somewhere near the top of the list Homer, you spend so long on here you just cant see it.

Of course, apart from the fact nobody wants me in their "clique".

Your posts in this thread are so wonderfully ironic.