NB they scored 2 scores from penalties early in the first half plus one when we turned the ball over. Its about context not just numbers

The big pack isn't the problem, it's that they are an unfit big pack that's the problem. They've had the same issue for the past couple of seasons, it takes a good 8 weeks from the first game for the pack to get themselves into any kind of shape, and they look in the worst shape I've seen them in the last 3 years. Towards the middle to back end of last season, the whole pack were doing 30+ min stints, but at the start they are slow and lazy

Those idiot Wakefield fans who let off the firework, ripped out the seats and abused the touch judge. Let themselves and their club down.

Wq, you conveniently failed to mention our first try came off the back of a penalty! So did a couple other of our tries! It was the same for both teams.
So in context actually pretty even. And am not backing the officials on this just stating what happened.

News flash !! Lots of tries come off the back of penalties.

Didn't see that coming. Well done from the HJ in Warrington

It's kind of the point of penalties! They either get you direct points from the kick, or put you in a better attacking position with a full set of tackles

It's disappointing when you don't get something off the back of a penalty

Indeed..............but 3 penalties at the start of the game, giving one side a 12 point cushion is a tad different from the "tit for tat" scenario that you and the useless troll, NB are alluding to. 12 - 0 down is a big mountain to climb

I other news....frm the BBC
What an utter ........he was out-coached....he should just admit it!

Dog, get yr facts right 3 penalties at the start of the game resulted in 2 tries for wakey one try for us, and it was actually over a 17 min period. Broncos second try on 25 mins was also straight from a penalty,sounds pretty balanced to me.
Buzza, agree lots of tries come of back of penalties, but mentioning ones against us and conveniently forgetting the ones for us is interesting.
My point was the count was pretty even at 5 a piece until the last few minutes, those last 3 virtually every team would have done the same in that position at that point of the game

I've been trying to find player stats for this match - anyone know where they hide them?

I am pi$$ed that they won't let me view the Sky video highlights from Bangkok. What possible copyright would they be infringing by letting us see it? (I used the RFL paying website to watch the Sky telecast games).

Broncos definitely looked fitter - Wakefield were knackered 10 minutes into the second half.
COYB!

I simply noted that Wakefield got off to a quick start which was aided by penalties. Any remarks on what happened afterwards wouldn't change that.

I thought the ref did OK. He got flustered when the ball spilled in the in goal (near the new stand) and Dixon picked it up and set off. He looked at his in goal Judge, didn't get what he was looking for and blew up for tap 20. It was clearly a play on situation and he should have let KD got the 100 m to score. But all in all he was fine.

Who was it out of curiosity? Is he new to SL?

It amuses me that some Wakefield fans were critical of the Trailfinders Stadium. They really need to take off their rose tinted glasses and take a look at Bellevue.

I was really impressed with our display yesterday. our work rate and skill was immense if we can score like that things are looking up for us in super league. I may have been wrong about abdull he has enough pace to get us around and his distribution and out of hand kicking were very good. also did anyone notice when they brought Fifita back on with about 20mins to go.
they had greased his legs! something i've never seen they were clearly slicked up a little naughty i thought.
and last a quick nod to elliot kear so strong in the tackle or with the ball in hand for the size of the player

Wq the ref was Tom grant, he has been around a while but went full time last season. We saw him a couple of times last season. In fact we were his first game when he got taken on full time.

Just get yourself a VPN app.

St Helens use to grease James Grahams legs.

They might be better advised to work on his fitness.

NB is the shot clock 30 or 35 seconds?

30 for the goal line drop out
35 for scrum

If like me you enjoyed Sundays game. The LBSA still has space on the coach to Salford, join them for the top of the table clash.

Go back to the days of winter rugby and 99% of forwards had a fair amount of grease on them particularly when playing on hard grounds. I suspect it was more to do with the surface than anything else. There's a picture of Kevin Ward coming out of the tunnel at Knowsley Road back in the 80's covered in the stuff.

No complaints from me about the defeat, apologies for the few s that seem to latch onto Wakefield particularly on awaydays.

Well you got the bit right about David Hughes smiling smugly, the other two guesses were well wide of the mark.