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| Quote ="The Penguin"a very eloquent summary.
Is there any appetite on here for some sort of protest (or demonstration of our frustration, if you prefer) at the next home game (If we haven't seen any improvement on the comms / signings front by then)?'"
Sounds a good idea, but what? maybe we could do a Poznan and face away from the play all the game, at least I will go home in a better mood!
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Sounds a good idea, but what? maybe we could do a Poznan and face away from the play all the game, at least I will go home in a better mood!'"
I don't know, I'm just spitballing really. But I want the club to know how unhappy we all are with current events, I don't want them to get away with what usually happens at home games, i.e. we lose, the atmosphere is funereal, we politely clap the players off then retire to the bar and shrug our shoulders. The way this club is being run at the moment is pretty appalling (we shouldn't be finding out about player departures via twitter) and I think we should let Mackay, Powell, Randall et al know that.
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| Off the top of my headl I can think of two approaches, not mutually exclusive - a stunt at the next home game largely for the benefit of the press and the fans who don't know what is going on and an email campaign to the club letting them know what we think. I am sure we could embarrass the club big time if our actions got on twitter/facebook etc.
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| I don't really get the hype from Wilkes. OK, he was our best prop this year, but that wasn't exactly difficult with what we have. I think he's just a another journeyman plodder and will be forgotten about next season. Especially with Kaufusi coming in, he is what our pack is missing and needs.
I just hope Ward isn't given a contract extension.
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| Didn't Kaufusi say recently he hadn't heard anything from Quins? I know the Knights want rid of him but think he's keen to stay.
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| Was Ellis offered a contract or not. Or were we just out bid? Who is his agent?
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Was Ellis offered a contract or not. Or were we just out bid? Who is his agent?'"
According to Ellis himself, he wasn't his choice to leave London.
So I doubt very much he was offered a new deal
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Was Ellis offered a contract or not. Or were we just out bid? Who is his agent?'"
According to Ellis himself, he wasn't his choice to leave London.
So I doubt very much he was offered a new deal
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| Cameron Smith to replace him
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| Quote ="Harlequin Gooner"According to Ellis himself, he wasn't his choice to leave London.
So I doubt very much he was offered a new deal'"
Still could have been offered more by Wakey. I assume the club must have a reason linked one hopes to the composition of the squad and where money is being spent in certain positions.
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| Ellis tweeted me to say all would be revealed today - I assume this means League Express. Anyone seen it?
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| Quote ="The Penguin"Ellis tweeted me to say all would be revealed today - I assume this means League Express. Anyone seen it?'"
Basically it says,
'Andy Ellis had to seek new employment elsewhere after his contract offer was withdrawn by Harlequins'
Says he wanted to stay and was looking for a house but the contract was suddenly withdrawn.
In League Weekly it states the contract was withdrawn after Chad Randall (Captain of Team Randall) signed a two year deal and Julian Rinaldi was rumoured to have signed.
So two oldies for a better young one. Wonder which fans are going to be the happiest.
Other than that he is sad to be leaving, and as a fan I too am sad he is leaving.
Let's hope we have some better replacements coming soon.
Witt is good but we are losing almost a full pack and have only signed a prop so far.
I know its early but if Crusaders hadn't lost the licience we wouldn't of even got him.
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Was Ellis offered a contract or not. Or were we just out bid? Who is his agent?'"
See reports in papers today.,
Agent Chris Harrison
Yes he was offered a contract, but it was withdrawn.
Were we outbid, irrelevant as we didn't want to keep him.
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| Club seems to think having Randall & Ellis doesn't work. Perhaps Randall insists on being top dog.
Either way its a farce. We've let go of one of the best English players we've had in ages.
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| Quote ="The Penguin"Club seems to think having Randall & Ellis doesn't work. Perhaps Randall insists on being top dog.
Either way its a farce. We've let go of one of the best English players we've had in ages.'"
two, with Wilkes!
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| I like Paddocks offerings- I've always thought we were short of a left footed kicker
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| Ellis should have been the priority 'retain', not Randall.
Not happy that we are trying to recreate Manly's 2005 team.
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| Given ther way the last 2 years have gone i would take Manly 2005 any day.........................
Sad about Andy though, my player of the year and a good guy........................
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| Quote ="brian2"Sad about Andy though, my player of the year and a good guy........................'"
........and crucially, better than Randall. Which is what makes this all the more ridiculous.
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| Is he better than Randall?
It may well be Randall brings more to the team from a leadership perspective for example
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| Yes he IS better than Randall. Probably not better than Randall of 4 years ago but I'm afraid we'll all have forgotten how good Chad was by the time the next 2 years have passed.
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| In League Express Ellis really voices his frustration/annoyance, that a contract offer seemed to be withdrawn.
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| Quote ="east stander"It may well be Randall brings more to the team from a leadership perspective for example'"
There is no evidence that Randall brings any leadership and Ellis should have been the priority to keep.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"There is no evidence that Randall brings any leadership and Ellis should have been the priority to keep.'"
I don't see it myself, but I reckon that Randall will be given the captaincy last year and in a strange way may have been the reason why he got a contract and Andy Ellis did not, or am I trying to rationalise an irrational decision.
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| Quote ="Londo06"I don't see it myself, but I reckon that Randall will be given the captaincy last year and in a strange way may have been the reason why he got a contract and Andy Ellis did not, or am I trying to rationalise an irrational decision.'"
That may be true, but why can't both be kept? The salary cap can't possibly be an issue to us can it?
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