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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="wire quin"Exactly
Hopefully once we start winning that will come back'"
400 people singing in a stadium that holds 15k is not atmosphere.....I remember when we spanked Wire back in 2009 in front of 3,206....we stuck 60 on them, we were all confined to the east and sang loads, but the place was still relitively quiet. Now you can sit where you want, the chances of any atmosphere in the ground with less than 8k is remote at best.
For years we have defended the club from claims that home support was outnumbered by travelling fans.....and with each year this defence gets harder to justify.
September 8th last year we were on a roll having scored 102 points in our 2 previous home games which we won......yet 2,525 rolled up to the stoop to see the 90 point game and season finale win
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How many matches have you been to while we have been London Broncos this time round so you can make accurate assessments of the atmosphere in our current two stand set up?
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| Come on.The game against Salford, until five minutes into the second half, was like being at the funeral of London Rugby League. To be honest if we hadn't turned them over in the second half like we did it may well have been for real!
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| Quote ="nkpom"Come on.The game against Salford, until five minutes into the second half, was like being at the funeral of London Rugby League. To be honest if we hadn't turned them over in the second half like we did it may well have been for real!'"
You are right but it is up to the few who attend to make the noise although it helps when the team turns up on the park
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| The "crowd", such as it was, did make quite a bit of noise at the end of the first half against Salford, pretty loud boo-ing. May have played some part in what happened in the second half.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"The "crowd", such as it was, did make quite a bit of noise at the end of the first half against Salford, pretty loud boo-ing. May have played some part in what happened in the second half.'"
I wouldnt know as I'd already scarpered
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| Pity you didnt take Powell with you-He should have gone after the Reds away game which was a disgrace
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"How many matches have you been to while we have been London Broncos this time round so you can make accurate assessments of the atmosphere in our current two stand set up?'"
none....I became confused about who they were.....was it Ice Hockey.....was it gridiron or were they still giving Rugby Lessons at local schools? I tried togetsome more info and buy some merchandise, but the confusion became too much........I will probably come back when they can further clarify who they areand what they do...same goes for the other 750 or so that seem to have drifted.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"none....I became confused about who they were.....was it Ice Hockey.....was it gridiron or were they still giving Rugby Lessons at local schools? I tried togetsome more info and buy some merchandise, but the confusion became too much........I will probably come back when they can further clarify who they areand what they do...same goes for the other 750 or so that seem to have drifted.'"
Thought it was 8k who drifted away?
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| Quote ="Darthchris"Thought it was 8k who drifted away?'"
Nope....
In reality, a few dozen or so refused tofollowthe Broncos to the Stoop when we became Quins........the club, as they always have done, expected the masses to flock to games, then when they didn't, the reverted back to the Broncos......except this time around, those battle weary London RL fans were having none of it....
In short, it matters not what they are called nor where they play, until they market themselves properly, me and listy will split hairs about me having to actually be there to experience the atmosphere of 1,500 rattling around in a 15,000 stadium.
This time next year I suspect Gus might be able to call all season ticket holders personally to ask them to renew........but I'd be at a loss to say what he'd do for the other 7 hours of his Monday
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| Quote ="gutterfax"reverted back to the Broncos......except this time around, those battle weary London RL fans were having none of it....
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I think a lot of Quins RU fellow travellers were seen off by the rebrand.
An impressive feat to alienate both RU & RL fans equally with name changes.
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"I think a lot of Quins RU fellow travellers were seen off by the rebrand.
An impressive feat to alienate both RU & RL fans equally with name changes.'"
Indeed. And not content with that, the poor citizens of Gillingham are next up in his sights.
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| Despite the RFL being clueless even they recognise the importance of creating atmosphere at sporting events, thats why 1 of the original 10 licence application ' ticks ' was an average attendance of 40% of your stadiums capacity
Leigh are going to consider using just 1 stand at the LSV if the decline in attendances continues,
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"I think a lot of Quins RU fellow travellers were seen off by the rebrand.
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What? both of them?
Seriously though, do you think we acquired more QRU fans (and then lost them) than the number of Broncos fans we lost due to the change to H*******s?
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"What? both of them?
Seriously though, do you think we acquired more QRU fans (and then lost them) than the number of Broncos fans we lost due to the change to H*******s?'"
I think there was some cross-over but who could blame anybody walking away after the last two years. This season should be all about winning hearts and minds - How about it Gus?
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"
Seriously though, do you think we acquired more QRU fans (and then lost them) than the number of Broncos fans we lost due to the change to H*******s?'"
No.
But both rebrands eroded the fanbase to a greater & lesser degree.
God knows what effect Chatham Drongos will have if it comes to pass.
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| Interesting to read the comments by Gus in Forty-20 magazine. If you haven't seen them basically he says we want out of The Stoop at the end of the coming season, with the magazine hinting we can't afford to stay, though the old it's a RU area argument is trotted out by Gus. He goes on to say the club are targeting East London and out of season football fans (an idea that just flew at Charlton as I recall.)
Makes you wonder quite how much point there is marketing this season to the locals. 'Come and watch us, we probably won't be here next year though................'
The sad thing is I'm not half as upset about the mess this club is in as I would have been a few years ago. It's almost an air of fatalistic resignation now and if they can do that to a season ticket holder of well over a decade, and several parts of London, standing I'm not surprised they are struggling to win / retain new support.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Interesting to read the comments by Gus in Forty-20 magazine. If you haven't seen them basically he says we want out of The Stoop at the end of the coming season, with the magazine hinting we can't afford to stay, though the old it's a RU area argument is trotted out by Gus. He goes on to say the club are targeting East London and out of season football fans (an idea that just flew at Charlton as I recall.)
Makes you wonder quite how much point there is marketing this season to the locals. 'Come and watch us, we probably won't be here next year though................'
The sad thing is I'm not half as upset about the mess this club is in as I would have been a few years ago. It's almost an air of fatalistic resignation now and if they can do that to a season ticket holder of well over a decade, and several parts of London, standing I'm not surprised they are struggling to win / retain new support.'"
Gus's business sense is worse than his fielding
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| I'm already preparing for next year. Have bought a season ticket for Hemel Stags so I can get to know the players names now.
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| From Ian Ramsdale on twitter:
Quote Hear an interview with @LondonBroncosRL CEO Gus Mackay just after 3pm on today's new look @bbclondonsport Sunday Sport Show '"
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| Just had a quick look at the website, £20 to get in Is this meant to be a shock tactic to get more people to buy season tickets? I am a floating fan, I am the people this club needs to target and get through the door but £20 to get in? You'll be lucky to see me once this year.
Skolars for me. Not a great scoreline on Friday but on paper, the strongest Skolars side I've seen. The fixture list being sp is my only gripe but hey, it could be worse, Gus and David Hughes could run the club.
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| This beggars belief, we had to beg them to tell us where we were playing in 2012 at the end of 2011 and now Gus tells us where will be playing in 2014 before the 2013 season starts. Bonkers strategy to build crowds in 2013.
Enjoy 2013, whilst you can. God knows if the club will appear in 2014 in London!
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Gus's business sense is worse than his fielding'"
nah...his fielding isn't that bad.
so, he ed up 2011 so changes names, ed up 2012 and tried to move us and now in 2013 has already started to prepare another exuse......
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| Out of season floating football fan!! The SL season starts first week of Feb and finishes at home this year mid Aug
Soccer goes on until end of May
Why dont we find rugby league fans
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| So, Gus has gone on record saying that East is the future for the club based on the myth that Twickenham is a Union heartland.
Sorry, but I have no ing idea how he can base this on anything other than his total and utter failure to achieve anything of note in the last 24 months.
He took a game east last year and we attracted the second worst gate for the visit of Bradford in the 17 seasons of SL. Farther east, we gave away 1,000+ tickets and piggy backed on a festival of RL to get 300 more fans than we normally average for the visit of Hull.
We were based in SE London 1996, 200 and 2001....at which stage we averaged 3,232 and moved West to Brentford.
Brentford is the ONLY stadium we have called home where we actually GREW attendances....this isn't an opinion based on failure, it is a FACT.
I find it incredible that David Hughes is that pig headed that he can't see that he has employed a total ing lemon as CEO?
24 Months into his tenure and he has wasted club resources on a rebrand, given a contract to one of his mates to supply gear to the club, designed a club shirt on the basis that he'd be prepared to wear it down the pub, hired 2 former co-workers from Cricket into roles they weren't qualified for, then fired them when they failed, stood by a coach who should have been fired at the end of 2011, tried to move the club to Kent, has now gone on record as saying that Twickenham is a Union heartland but offered no evidence to back up this claim and has dropped a pin on East London in his A2Z and in doing so, has written off any hope of attracting fans to the stoop in 2013
Gus Mackay has no pedigree in success at sports management, no prior connection to the game of Rugby League and IMHO not a ing clue as to what he is doing. Every decision he makes seems purely designed to deflect away from his 24 months of failure...573 less fans per game..17% down, substandard replica kit, mid-season review that resulted in action that any fan could have told him was needed, a re-brand that failed in it's stated aim, jobs for his pals and now a random statement that East London is going top work.
This is not a personal attack on the guy by the way, I am sure he really is a nice guy, but professionally, he is out of his depth IMO.
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