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| Quote ="BigTime"I think so too Victor and expect to hear confirmation from the club about mid November. I think that could be that especially if only 4 players take up the pay for play offer (I’d be surprised if many more did) but think it’s a fair bet we get L1 ready by moving to RP. Ebbsfleet isn’t in London that would be taking the pxxx a bit too much. Hopefully Mr Hughes will put in a couple of quid to have the main stand fixed and possibly a small upgrade to the plank of wood style seating opposite. Im. not precious about it but RPs main/only stand is well below the standard. As for hospitality, that I think has had its day.'"
I assume that David Hughes contributed to the new stand at Trailfinders. So he may do so at RP to help raise the standards.
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| Quote ="Victor"I assume that David Hughes contributed to the new stand at Trailfinders. So he may do so at RP to help raise the standards.'"
Yes went up really quickly if I recall correctly. Ealing would be the obvious choice to return and spruce up a bit for a middling Championship side but I suspect that would all be a bit easy for us. I suppose RP benefits from being real rugby heartland and it’s clear that quite a few did come when we played there last season. On the downside few we have accrued from Wimbledon will travel and we seemed to lose a few regulars as well. Basically we’re in strife.
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| Maybe it just needs a kindly vet to put a much loved horse in such ill health down & end the suffering for all of us.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Maybe it just needs a kindly vet to put a much loved horse in such ill health down & end the suffering for all of us.'"
That may well be one of the options.
Or perhaps the RFL may adopt it.
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| Quote ="Victor"That may well be one of the options.
Or perhaps the RFL may adopt it.'"
A sort of RFL Donkey Sanctuary?
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| If Hughes had a clue he would follow Cas lead and hook up with an NRL club or even better with an arrangement with NRL to get fringe players over here for experience and go all out to blitz the Championship over the next couple of years with a plan that he could sell to potential UK based players. Many things to like about this year - albeit I now watch from afar - and with off field and on field upward trajectory IMG boxes are getting ticked, and who knows.
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| Quote ="Reboot"If Hughes had a clue he would follow Cas lead and hook up with an NRL club or even better with an arrangement with NRL to get fringe players over here for experience and go all out to blitz the Championship over the next couple of years with a plan that he could sell to potential UK based players. Many things to like about this year - albeit I now watch from afar - and with off field and on field upward trajectory IMG boxes are getting ticked, and who knows.'"
Sadly time and time again he’s proved he hasn’t. Got a clue that is.
I’ve quite enjoyed being at Plough Lane, (or perhaps it’s just the pizzas) and 20:20 hindsight is a wonderful thing but I can’t help feeling we shouldn’t have left Trailfinders.
RP is in a shocking state. Frankly it was in a shocking state when I saw a London Hospitals cup final there in the early 80s. Terrible to think that it could be where we’ll end up.
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| If only a few old whiners on the internet had whine louder and longer.....even more often.
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Huges is 100% responsible for the mess we are in and whilst I will be sad when the club folds, none of us can say it hasnt been coming since 2013.
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| I wouldn’t class myself as a Broncos fan, more of a rugby league supporter due to living in exile of my club, but I have thoroughly enjoyed this season from a Broncos point of view, to the point where a well priced season ticket for 2025 would probably sway me to get one after going to Wimbledon and Twickenham four times, thanks to email offers regularly from the club. I appreciate that for season ticket holders that probably annoys them a bit, mind.
Is there a genuine fear that the club will be no more? No recruitment taking place, no parachute payments, it doesn’t look good.
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| Quote ="Moe Lester"I wouldn’t class myself as a Broncos fan, more of a rugby league supporter due to living in exile of my club, but I have thoroughly enjoyed this season from a Broncos point of view, to the point where a well priced season ticket for 2025 would probably sway me to get one after going to Wimbledon and Twickenham four times, thanks to email offers regularly from the club. I appreciate that for season ticket holders that probably annoys them a bit, mind.
Is there a genuine fear that the club will be no more? No recruitment taking place, no parachute payments, it doesn’t look good.'"
Hi Moe,
It's hard to say with Hughes involved. As you say it doesn't look encouraging. It's also hard to see how IMG & RFL can raise the profile of the sport if all the teams are stuck in the North + Cats. Even Morrisons headed south to make more money.
Hughes seems to thrive on brinkmanship, but this time.......
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| Quote ="Moe Lester"I wouldn’t class myself as a Broncos fan, more of a rugby league supporter due to living in exile of my club, but I have thoroughly enjoyed this season from a Broncos point of view, to the point where a well priced season ticket for 2025 would probably sway me to get one after going to Wimbledon and Twickenham four times, thanks to email offers regularly from the club. I appreciate that for season ticket holders that probably annoys them a bit, mind.
Is there a genuine fear that the club will be no more? No recruitment taking place, no parachute payments, it doesn’t look good.'"
It’s extremely easy to get negative about Broncos future and bearing in mind the 2022 season a reasonable position to take but I tend to shy away from claims the club will fold……but as I see it we seem to have doubled down on our position that we ‘deserve’ to be in SL and will do nothing until we know the outcome. As I understand it we have done no recruitment and very little in the way of retention moves- there has been some discussion of offers of pay for play contracts which seem to my untrained eye to be highly unattractive except in very limited circumstances. As, I believe the club will only hear that it’s to be kept in SL or relegated a couple of weeks post season’s end it is difficult to see how we could credibly recruit for either SL or championship. As to where we play- I’m unclear on the contract with AFC but if we are relegated (the most likely option by some margin) then the expense is unjustifiable and rationale disappears. How can we move to another ground in an orderly fashion in the short time frame before season starts- I don’t know. Feels to me like a 25% chance it’s game over- but we’ll see.
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| Quote ="the-bearded-lefty"Sam Davis to Salford it appears. Good move for him and them. Worked hard and think he'll look a lot better in a decent team.'"
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"On the assumption Hughes has too much money invested in Broncos to let it go belly up, I can't wait to hear what his great masterplan turns out to be for next season.'"
It will be interesting but with complete radio silence we can only guess and mine is that we will go: ‘it’s not our fault it’s IMGs and now we’ll just have to play our youth team and see if we can pick up a couple half way through the season.’ That just isn’t acceptable. One X factor is where we will play. Does anyone know if we are contractually committed to Plough Lane for next year? If not then they will need to put arrangements in place much quicker than we’ve seen in recent years to source a new ground, notify everyone and get in sponsors, season tickets and pretty much everything. Difficult to see big take up on any of those metrics if we are at Rosslyn Park. What a mess.
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| Quote ="BigTime"It will be interesting but with complete radio silence we can only guess and mine is that we will go: ‘it’s not our fault it’s IMGs and now we’ll just have to play our youth team and see if we can pick up a couple half way through the season.’ That just isn’t acceptable. One X factor is where we will play. Does anyone know if we are contractually committed to Plough Lane for next year? If not then they will need to put arrangements in place much quicker than we’ve seen in recent years to source a new ground, notify everyone and get in sponsors, season tickets and pretty much everything. Difficult to see big take up on any of those metrics if we are at Rosslyn Park. What a mess.'"
It's possible there will be more players on the pitch than fans in the ground.
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| My understanding is there is a single mutually agreed breakpoint allowing either AFC Wimbledon or the London Broncos to terminate the contract. My guess is that is either after two or three years. We are at three years at the end of the current season.
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| Quote ="Smithers99"My understanding is there is a single mutually agreed breakpoint allowing either AFC Wimbledon or the London Broncos to terminate the contract. My guess is that is either after two or three years. We are at three years at the end of the current season.
One point to ponder is if the quality of the stadium related IMG grading scores were to drop by leaving Plough Lane, the Broncos grading may be insufficient to be of Championship level. Whilst a stretch, the Broncos have limited leeway whilst ranked 24th.
Imagine Newcastle remain ranked ahead of the Broncos. That would highlight the fallacy of the grading system.'"
Thanks Smithers. Newcastle fall from grace also shows how precarious a position many clubs are in. I suspect upgrade in ground/crowds/ social media hits etc plus promotion would have moved us up to about 18. Which feels a bit more realistic but, as you say, moving to Roslyn Park would move us right back down again the following year. Having said that if the club are taking the approach we think they may be, then fighting for L1 leader’s shield might be the long term aim.
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| According to Eccles yesterday I think we have 7 players signed up for next season! Yay.
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| Quote ="the-bearded-lefty"According to Eccles yesterday I think we have 7 players signed up for next season! Yay.
My guess is Lovell, Walker, Macani, Basset, Hughes, Adebiyi and Williams and I have based this on absolutely nothing.'"
Things are looking up we have almost half a team.
My guess is the 7 are not necessarily 7 starters. I’m guessing we’ve managed to convince Hughes to stay!
I have a feeling Boafo was on a two. I can see Macani staying and Basset could do a job elsewhere but I’d guess saying in London unless our offer is a Mickey take (which it may well be) is the best option as opposed to Bradford, Swinton. I think we’ll keep Lovell. The others will be kids and Davies although I suspect Walker may well stay. Williams I can see moving on, ditto Adebiyi. Basically we appear to be running down the team- very odd way to do business.
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| Quote ="BigTime" Basically we appear to be running down the team- very odd way to do business.'"
Agreed.
And it’s not as if we’ve got Skolars players ( L1 level) anyway.
Perhaps some of Bassett’s former teammates should bring their boots to games next season……….
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| Quote ="RfE"Agreed.
And it’s not as if we’ve got Skolars players ( L1 level) anyway.
Perhaps some of Bassett’s former teammates should bring their boots to games next season……….'"
I suspect that will be the plan….when we get around to doing any planning for next year….any at all. Sigh.
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| Quote ="BigTime"I suspect that will be the plan….when we get around to doing any planning for next year….any at all. Sigh.'"
I do believe we are about to appoint Baldrick as Head of planning, which is very cunning of Hughes.
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| Quote ="the-bearded-lefty"According to Eccles yesterday I think we have 7 players signed up for next season! Yay.
My guess is Lovell, Walker, Macani, Basset, Hughes, Adebiyi and Williams and I have based this on absolutely nothing.'"
I am told Basset is off to see the world, so I would say you can count him out.
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