Everything to do with the questions. Regardless of if I am repetitive (and basically I have spouted the same mantra for 0over 10 years) I am right. The message wont change!


In the post immediately before you decided to continue with your stalking, I attempted to get this thread back on topic.....you instead of discussing the marketing by Barnet targeted me with specific questions. If you don't like the answer, then feel free to cease and desist!


I said it was impossible to buy anything since MKK took on the role of supplier. Prior to that I was buying goods from the Quins on-line store (sitting in my 30 year anniversary shirt at the moment). As for freebies, I suspect I dropped over a grand a year over the bar, in the shop and in some cases when I couldn't squirrel tickets, entry for myself, the Mrs and some of the 100 or so people I dragged to their first ever game of RL.
I don't see how your inspection of my financial input is relevant as to what manner I choose to support the club.


I was banned for a reason...it was well worth the break from the NRL boards given the people involved were purposely attacking posters on the site and causing problems. I have an unblemished record since then on here, as I did before the idiots picked a fight they lost.

...big bad Gutters dropped the C bomb. Guess what, the desired result was achieved!


Ohh...why don't you scream for the mods louder, or better still, apply for the role that Homer regrets standing down from? Then you can manage a forum where only idiocy and pretend good news is allowed....it'll be so busy.


Rupe1 stands out in my mind as being a poster who thought that the problems at the club could be sorted out in an instant, an idealist who blamed all the woes of RL on the other code and who was delighted when Harlequins RL was binned, even though the reason for the binning was false and the results were worse than what we had before. Marketing being poor is 10% of the problem at the club now........that horse has long bolted!

I support the club....I am a supporter. It doesn't have to be financial, although you are now showing your hand here, in that "you're not a supporter unless you're there" is your angle. I will in all probability purchase a replica shirt when (and if) available in 2014....what does that do to your stand-point on supporters?


So do I....


No, the coaches were both full. Someone decided to wind me up in regards to a catastrophic event in my life that even the roaches on the NRL boards wouldn't have mentioned. As for a whinge, if you'd been subject to that attack you'd have gone apoplectic it was that low.


and you felt the need to confirm this why?

My differing opinion seems to be causing a weird reaction in you. You are following my every post and (badly) trying to paint me as a problem rather than a solution. The problem really isn't on an internet forum....hate to be the bearer of bad news. An internet forum is where differing views are needed to continue a debate.



Yes, you and your Ilk, who will defend the club at every turn because 'they're doing their best"........







Take your pick!


I haven't broken any rules on here, this is a thread about the marketing activity at the Hive and I think you'll find you attacked my point of view, not the other way around.



How do you know what I do or do not do for the club, never mind what qualifies you to pronounce me either a fan or a supporter?

Go to the London Broncos website and watch the Tony Rea video at the open day. Tell me how many times he thanks Gus MacKay for the 18 months work in putting this deal at the hive together. Tell me at what point does he confirm that TK is investing in the club. Tell me when in the video he highlights how confident he is for the coming season.

He has the look of a condemned man in that video and the only real laughter/smiles is when he wants to discuss the cricket......

As I said to another poster in regards to "advising me" what and when to post, put me on ignore if you want, that's what the function is there for, but until I start telling lies or breaking the AUP, get used to the negativity, because I really can't see too much to be happy about at present and the outlook for 2014 isn't looking much better!

BTW, I am aware that some posters on here find me annoying. I also am aware that others agree with me.......welcome to the amazing world of the internet forum!

good god life must be very dull in kiwi land! Yawn! gutters its all got very dull.

probably time to get back to the topic. no one would argue that the club has bee badly run/marketed - and gutter fax I agree with 80/90% of what you have posted? maybe it is all hopeless and should pack up and go home! or support Skolars (sad that Paddock has left!) or Hemel. but whilst there is a team to watch I will give it a hopelessly optimistic go and see how it goes. maybe if we all took the same approach we might be going somewhere

Ah......so I should just let other posters attack me, question my standing as a supporter and dictate to me when, where and what I can post?
Good news that online purchasing of memberships will be available tomorrow.....should ensure a full house v salford

the problem now gutter fax you seem to be willing the club to fail? they may, and probably will but I think most of us on here will see that as a sad development? I am not accusing you of anything......

but time to get back to rugby and the team......

Strange that you would think that pointing out the clubs failings equate to a wish for it to fail.

What Club?
We have a team of 25 or so players who are bolted on to finish bottom, we are tenants in another ground and we are paying not only rent, but also a % of the gate and a fee for administration. Season Tickets are now memberships to a facility that limits our growth prospects off the field (we had more fans in 2008 than this place has seats) and as it stands, the only way to buy a ST/Membership is off-line and in person. The Clubs new colours, together with the new manufacturer of the goods for the shop are only available to those who attended the HAC game, the marketing to date involves a mention at half time and it would seem that nothing more than a major cost cutting exercise has taken place which has alienated the already shrinking hard-core of supporters.
Willing them to fail? Jesus wept, I want nothing more than the business to prosper and the team to win but with what's been delivered after protracted and totally unnecessary 18 months of negotiations doesn't need my willing it for it to fail miserably......Helen Keller could see what's going to happen.
13,000,000 quid in 6 years has been ed up the wall and I can only imagine the total figure over 18 SL seasons that has been lost to bad decisions, bad judgement and bad management.....and yet all that changes is the post code.



Hey...onwards and upwards. The only benefit to supporting this team in 2014 is that after the total mess that's been made of the business and playing staff, the only way is up.

then why keep posting? that's what I don't understand? if we are so hopeless, so utterly useless then shouldn't you move on,

my last post - as I am just getting dragged into this mire

David Hughes only wants a team not a club. He keeps re-inventing the team but has never tried to build a club. Fans are a nuisance he has to live with. For the umpteenth time we are cuckoo-ing on the back of another club, with probably the usual outcome. I will support the team, but we have no real club, it is a Potemkin village.

Simply put, if you are a fan of top flight UK RL then London Broncos will be your destination this year if you live in and around the M25, but make no mistake, not 1 penny of your contribution, in ticket sales, merchandise or curries will make a blind bit of difference to the outcome in terms of the long term viability of the club as a professional entity.

So long as you fully understand and appreciate that, then you will only have disappointment on the field to deal with......the rest is already a done deal.

Attack?
Dictate to you?

That's your perception.

Can you not see GF that people have agreed with you and still do but it's getting beyond repetitive.

Your first sorte into this thread.....



Yep.....lot's of "we know" and "not again" type posts, combined with dragging up events on the NRL boards in 2010 that have absolutely no relevance here to try and prove some point or garner support for your stalking of my every post.


and not unlike my opinion, I am entitled to hold it.


This is a thread about Marketing.

Not sure if you remember the marketing strategy for the first games at The Valley, the Stoop, the Valley, Griffin Park, The Stoop as Quins and the stoop as the Broncos v.2.....but it involved sticking posts in the ground, announcing KO times and hoping people turned up.....and we know how those masterstrokes turned out!

I'll keep repeating my posts so long as the idiots in charge keep repeating the same mistakes....as I've said BEFORE funnily enough, stick me on ignore if you like, but continue to stalk me and I will continue to respond.

It's almost like some on here believe if I stop posting, the club will miraculously find 5k fans and a team that will avoid relegation......alas, both of those involve marketing (which we've outsourced) and development (which we've given up)

Why do other posters attack you as you put it gutters mate!? A lot of us have said on here we actually agree with a lot of stuff you say, but every time one of us tries to look to the positives it almost always results in a "doom gloom its all rubbish, you are all buying in" etc etc etc from you.
Some of us on here want to watch rugby league and we want to watch London Broncos rugby league.
I personally don't need you telling me I am gonna be eating poo all season, that's your opinion.

Nope. Far from the truth. It's not about YOU. We don't care about YOU. We care about the club.


So to summarise. The club are in crap, will not exist past this season, we have a poor team and everyone should give up and some on here who will part with their money are just idiots wasting their time. We have no future.

Is that it? Good. Now you don't have to say it again... on every thread.

No Doubt
I haven't said that anywhere, but don't let that stop you....
that's an insult to Poor Teams....but you're on the right track.
Again, not sure where I posted that, but no doubt you'll find it somewhere....looking forward to when you do find it.....if anything, it'll keep you busy.
Again, not sure where I've called people idiots for supporting the team. I freely admit to be bemused at the attitude on here that we have a chance of anything other than utter humiliation this year, but each to their own.
Quite possibly and most assuredly so under the guidance of this management and this owner. Without a change at the top and down through the important roles at the club we will simply get more of the same. Alas, there is no investor this year or next, the same management across the club and little chance of any change this year, so 2015 may well happen, but it won't be as a SL club.


ah...dictating what I can say and when I can say it...AGAIN. Thought you didn't do that?




Let's get something straight Michael, when the club announce something positive, I'll be the first to applaud. This far, existing, having a make shift team for the coming season, losing to a Catalan squad with 8 first grade players, only being able to buy memberships in person, players signing then not signing etc etc are not positive. They are indicative of more of the same bollox that the club have rolled out over recent years.



yeah....god forbid somebody would have a differing opinion to you on an internet forum



We lost by an average score of 18-35 last season, that's the highest against average and highest points difference in 18 years, we closed it out with 2 wins against teams with nothing to play for with the help of Soward, but still achieved the lowest points total for a SL season and were kept off the bottom because Salford were docked points.
In 2014 we have a far weaker squad.
That's where I get my opinion that we will struggle in 2014 and be relegated to the 2nd tier as a result of it. I am not happy about it by any stretch, but them's the stats I use to come to the same conclusion as the bookies, who rarely get it wrong

Where pray tell, does your optimism come from?

You don't have to say it again is not the same as you can't say it again HTH.

How could we not fully understand it? You tell us on every ****ing thread about 20 times!! What exactly are you trying to achieve? Some kind of revolution by the fans to overthrow the management? I just want to watch my local SL team, and come on here and talk about them now and again. Give it a bl**dy rest.

totally agree, can't we have some positive spin on things.

this thread is just depressing. gutterfax as I have previously said I agree with 80/90% of what you have said in the past? I enjoyed the trip you arranged to Wales, probably best organised ever

but this is getting repetitive, it also is hopelessly depressing. why not wait till which actually get on the pitch, if we lose at Wines by30 and at home to Salford then by all means let's have a moan.

As to membership - I don't understand the model, but we at least have a team. in a previous post you said we would be in the championship in 2015 in front of<800 fans and would TK stick with us. the answer I am sure is no, the club/team have no future in the championship.

but as others have said, I am interested in the rugby, supporting my team even if they are crap - enough of all the other stuff and the personal opinions about non-rugby issues

Hi everyone ive been reading the forums with interest to see if the bronco's would survive and they have and ive been following the arrangement with ground and soccer club and new signings. hope the season goes well and you beat the drop and your crowds are up a bit on last season.

But if you are relegated has anyone on here ever though of a group of fans banding together and making an offer for the club... then as group of shareholders maybe even including current owner, owner of barnet, plus group of fans turned shareholders. I mean if did get relegated shares would be relatively cheap if the owner wants out or to reduce there stakehold. Under the new system coming in after 2015 promotion is possible! also you could have a proper board at the club i dont think bronco's even have a board do they? board could lobby for assistance with basic promotion from RFL or even teach the RFL how to promote and what you need (within reason obviously) things like getting contra advertising on sky tv to promote attending bronco's games, cross promote have bronco's info in programme, billboards, crowd anouncements etc at Wembley for challenge cup final. lock in a deal with the RFL for them to fund or partially fund london academy combine with bronco's, skolars, hemel, all the sides in the south of the UK.

Gutterfax your obviously a dedicated bronco's supporter and got some insightful points but you come across like youve lost the plot a bit at the clubs past failures. The glass is probably less than half full i am a realist but to much negativity drives people away there are some positives you have a glass and there some reasonable amout of water in it thats of drinking quality enjoy.... to put things in perspective The 2013 Wellington Rugby League Grand Final drew a smaller crowd than the bronco's average home crowd last year and as im sure you know the thats the highest level of rugby league available in wellington barring one off game the nz warriors played here last year!

life is good sometime enjoy the season bronco's whatever happens and good luck

Gutters, read what other folk post, a lot of us agree with a lot of what you say. But its basically getting very tedious you replying to every thread with the same waffle on stats, gus, the hive, the stooo, we are all doomed. Ffs mate you sound like TR after a game but in negative.

You can never have enough Gus bashing.

Half time entertainment should comprise him being placed in stocks for us to lob fruit at.

Even Paddock would come back for that I expect.

stocks and fruit sounds like a good plan!

I agree with you. Lots of us, including me, have had a good moan about the clubs shortcomings. Personally, I've made my point so I don't feel the need to repeat it.

Gus is pretty dim though.

Perhaps you should repeat it only in crayon & in words of 2 syllables or less?