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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"And he came to the conclusion that there was no market for top level RL in London, was going to let Leigh have our SL place and provide the money to establish a lower division side in the capital. Personally, I think he was right.'"
Strangely for him, he did little in the way of marketing and promotion, had a players wife as marketing manager when I first approached the club and, like many before and after when it comes to sports marketing, thought all he had to do was stick posts in the ground and announce a KO time
He may, or may not be right, but the RFL had access to 21,000 London based RL fans who attended the 2011 double header, SKY has between 50,000 and 80,000 London based SL viewers and yet, neither of these organisations have offered/been asked for this data.
For me, if this data exists it will be a decent mix of Ex-pat northerners and transient bar staff....we know the bar staff aren't interested, so it's the ex-pat northerners we need to engage...even if it's for only one game a year when "their home team" are in town.
Sweeping statement that there's no interest in Top level RL in the capital don't paint a true picture.....18 years of inactivity on the marketing front is the main reason we have few fans.....inability to engage the ones we had is the reason we've had fewer and fewer over the last 7 years.
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| [urlhttp://statigr.am/p/562908611444399827_228727486[/url
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| good god is that a signing??
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| Quote ="Moe Lester"[urlhttp://statigr.am/p/562908611444399827_228727486[/url'"
Wow, well grubbed! Who is the mystery signing?
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| So someone has been offered a contract. Wouldn't that suggest that all this cancerous talk of non-existence, we're doomed etc. is just the usual nonsense posted by people being very unhappy at they way they are treated by the club?
As I said before, patience. We'll all find out at some point.
And no, don't expect a jersey or merchandise to buy for Christmas. It's not happened before, so it probably won't now. There you go, that should hopefully avoid disappointment or any whinging about that subject.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"So someone has been offered a contract. Wouldn't that suggest that all this cancerous talk of non-existence, we're doomed etc. is just the usual nonsense posted by people being very unhappy at they way they are treated by the club?'"
We have no backroom staff, no ground, no new signings and we have had very little official news from the club since September 6th.
[urlhttp://www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/5119.php#.Ul9YObKBrmI[/url
Nobody here is grinding any axes with anyone or the club in general, but the occasional text message to me explaining very little is frustrating to say the least.
Quote ="Rooster Booster"As I said before, patience. We'll all find out at some point.'"
as opposed to us never finding out? Geez, there's a village out there somewhere missing its Guru, that's for sure
Quote ="Rooster Booster"And no, don't expect a jersey or merchandise to buy for Christmas. It's not happened before, so it probably won't now. There you go, that should hopefully avoid disappointment or any whinging about that subject.
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So, once we've eventually found out, it'll be more of the same then and we should continue to accept it?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"We have no backroom staff, no ground, no new signings and we have had very little official news from the club since September 6th.
[urlhttp://www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/5119.php#.Ul9YObKBrmI[/url
Nobody here is grinding any axes with anyone or the club in general, but the occasional text message to me explaining very little is frustrating to say the least.'"
Yet people still make shıt up and second guess what's going on, often being wrong. No-one here is grinding axes? What like you never get personal for example?
Oh I see you're telling us how important you are again by informing us that you get SMSs.
The club has never told us about signings unless they are major ones, like incumbent Australian hookers, or NZ Captains. Those days are gone. Move on.
Quote ="gutterfax"as opposed to us never finding out? Geez, there's a village out there somewhere missing its Guru, that's for sure
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patience ain't much to ask of someone that won't be going to any games but still continues to bash the club because it didn't listen to him all those years ago, and now come to think of it.
Quote ="gutterfax"So, once we've eventually found out, it'll be more of the same then and we should continue to accept it?'"
Nah we'll just sit and watch you get wound up expecting something to change for the first time in decades because you deem it wrong, when "unfortunately" it won't change. But we'll just let you get angry.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Yet people still make shıt up and second guess what's going on'"
When the club don't communicate anything there will be speculation.
What we do know, however, is we have no ground, no players, no fans and clowns running the show.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Oh I see you're telling us how important you are again by informing us that you get SMSs.'"
Outstanding
Still doesn't change the fact that the lack of news is disturbing and no amount of sniping is going to change that.
As for being "important"? It all depends who you are talking to.....because according to another poster on here, I am despised by the people at London Broncos. Personally, I don't care, just so long as they sort the ing club out, I really don't give a flying one.
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| great debate from people on the other side of the world
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| Quote ="rosetintedspecs"great debate from people on the other side of the world'"
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Whereas most people this side of the world really don't give a stuff anymore.
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"Asinthe makes the heart grow fonder.'"
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| Quote ="rosetintedspecs"great debate from people on the other side of the world'"
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Someone from the Broncos seems to be going the those RFL Super League restructuring meetings reading this...
Quote Officials from Catalan, Huddersfield, Hull, Hull KR, Warrington and Wigan all left the meeting, with the other eight clubs indicating their support for proposals to reduce the number of clubs in Super League from 14 to 12 from the 2015 season.'" www.loverugbyleague.com/news_136 ... eting.html
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Quote Officials from Catalan, Huddersfield, Hull, Hull KR, Warrington and Wigan all left the meeting, with the other eight clubs indicating their support for proposals to reduce the number of clubs in Super League from 14 to 12 from the 2015 season.'" www.loverugbyleague.com/news_136 ... eting.html
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Someone from the Broncos seems to be going the those RFL Super League restructuring meetings reading this...'"
The last meeting we were included in clubs who did not accept what The RFL is doing, but we are not included in the 6 clubs today who walked out?
Super League Clubs have to control the elite part of the game, and there can in the future be no members of The RFL senior staff on The Board, Hetherington earlier this week was contradictory, he said he backed The RFL proposals (No real shock) but not the terms for relegation and promotion??? show how weak some of the remaining clubs are inc St Helens, perhaps they were warned they had been given a World Cup game.
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| Some more rumour on another board:
[urlhttp://m.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=560489&start=10[/url
Re: London gone
My friend who is now a former employee of London Broncos sent me this yesterday
" No i am no longer with Broncos. The club has informally liquidated. Which means they will move forward as London Broncos but will move to North London (Barnet) under a new owner. Players (other than handful of academy products and matt cook, who was also an LB academy product),performance staff and admin staff will all move on. The club have managed or are in the process of paying off redundancies with David Hughes' millions. The RFL will take on the academy which costs around £300'000. The only 2 people to move forward with the club are the two people at the very source of London Broncos failings..Tony Rea and Angus Mackay."
to which i put how can they be in super league next season with no players
"Well the club is currently in advanced and crucial stages of meeting at the minute with the rfl and the owner of barnet fc. I have been lead to believe that the club will move forward on a small budget next year (under a mill) and play mostly young kids and a as many aussies as they can get. Tony Rea is currently asking for exemption of aussies like 'the old days' so the club can be competitive. He has also asked for exemption from relegation for the 'foreseeable' future to entice the barnet chairman to invest. You are not in a time warp, i did just say that and Tony Rea is seriously asking those questions. It is actually a joke.
The former head of youth Phil Jones has been there 15yrs and has grown the sport to a level you wouldn't believe. The amount of schools and kids in general playing it is phenomenal. And this crop of kids coming through now like McMeeken, Dixon, Sarginson, Krasnqi etc are the first group who have grown uo with rugby league and are actual fans of the game; not just 'Athletes' who have been transformed into rugby league players. Howver the clubs insistence to keep employing Tony Rea in various roles who has never put one long term plan in place throughout his 15yr allegiance with the club has killed it. Along with the current CEO who has no former rugby league experience or even interest and has been sacked from sussex cc and surrey cc in similar roles. As it stands, Phil Jones is returning to Warrington and the two clowns are moving forward. Sad to see. Again, wrong people in the wrong positions."
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| It perhaps seemed obvious that is why yesterday the club did not have conviction to vote against The RFL, if the future plans are correct as stated it is going to see the slow death of the club for one more season
The loss of Phil Jones is serious, he has done such a good job with the production of youth in London, how the RFL are allowing this, but do they really care?
I have even more serious concerns for the club, in fact the game itself, the weakness of such as Hetherington, McManus and Koukash is so clear, they are far too close to the RFL, Clubs yesterday should have stood together like in 1895, and formed their own Premiership, controlling their own League, while still remaining members of the RFL, but not controlled by them! Super League can no longer carry on as it is, the lack of competence and leadership at the RFL is shocking, would any company with a board or shareholders allow such total incompetence?
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| Quote ="TaRL PaRL"Some more rumour on another board:
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Re: London gone
My friend who is now a former employee of London Broncos sent me this yesterday
" No i am no longer with Broncos. The club has informally liquidated. Which means they will move forward as London Broncos but will move to North London (Barnet) under a new owner. Players (other than handful of academy products and matt cook, who was also an LB academy product),performance staff and admin staff will all move on. The club have managed or are in the process of paying off redundancies with David Hughes' millions. The RFL will take on the academy which costs around £300'000. The only 2 people to move forward with the club are the two people at the very source of London Broncos failings..Tony Rea and Angus Mackay."
to which i put how can they be in super league next season with no players
"Well the club is currently in advanced and crucial stages of meeting at the minute with the rfl and the owner of barnet fc. I have been lead to believe that the club will move forward on a small budget next year (under a mill) and play mostly young kids and a as many aussies as they can get. Tony Rea is currently asking for exemption of aussies like 'the old days' so the club can be competitive. He has also asked for exemption from relegation for the 'foreseeable' future to entice the barnet chairman to invest. You are not in a time warp, i did just say that and Tony Rea is seriously asking those questions. It is actually a joke.
The former head of youth Phil Jones has been there 15yrs and has grown the sport to a level you wouldn't believe. The amount of schools and kids in general playing it is phenomenal. And this crop of kids coming through now like McMeeken, Dixon, Sarginson, Krasnqi etc are the first group who have grown uo with rugby league and are actual fans of the game; not just 'Athletes' who have been transformed into rugby league players. Howver the clubs insistence to keep employing Tony Rea in various roles who has never put one long term plan in place throughout his 15yr allegiance with the club has killed it. Along with the current CEO who has no former rugby league experience or even interest and has been sacked from sussex cc and surrey cc in similar roles. As it stands, Phil Jones is returning to Warrington and the two clowns are moving forward. Sad to see. Again, wrong people in the wrong positions."'"
Unbelievable but I expect to be close to the truth. The question I would ask who in their right mind in the current SL would vote for a system of relegation and at the same time suggest 1 club is exempt. Bizarre and embarrassing.
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| Last throw of the dice ?
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| I support a Championship club -Doncaster who have had financial problems in the past.
It would be better for London to start off in Championship 1 next season with their youngsters & build up gradually. This way the new club will gain some credibility which they haven't got now !
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| Quote ="daftdad"Unbelievable but I expect to be close to the truth. The question I would ask who in their right mind in the current SL would vote for a system of relegation and at the same time suggest 1 club is exempt. Bizarre and embarrassing.'"
Hetherington who is leading the attacks on the six clubs who walked out yesterday, claims he fully backs the Nigel Wood proposals, but then goes on to day that he does not back the conventional promotion & relegation in the plan?
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| Much of the info posted earlier today tallies with what I have heard about why the seemingly agreed deal collapsed.
Will be interesting to see if we do get exemptions given it had already been agreed we wouldn't
Phil Jones is a huge loss, best wishes to him if he is off.
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| I'm not sure I could continue supporting the club if they were exempt from relegation. I have too much respect for the game and other clubs to support that.
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| Quote ="weighman"I support a Championship club -Doncaster who have had financial problems in the past.
It would be better for London to start off in Championship 1 next season with their youngsters & build up gradually. This way the new club will gain some credibility which they haven't got now !'"
A few weeks ago I'd have shot you down for saying that, but given where we are now I reckon you might be right.
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| I very nearly said that too but decided to wait and see what happens. If we are given exemptions Oxford may well be my first team next year.
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