Poorlytoe, you are the ultimate 'selective' stactician.

You are even dimmer than I thought - I talked averages in terms of attendances with some examples of where you can isolate independently how many real fans you had (i.e. v London, when practically no oppo fans turned up)

AND - minus 765 means that your oppositions scored 765 points more than you scored over the whole season.

That's not selective, it's a season average....get it?

On account of the fact that the name Jessie is of Northern origin (scottish actually, it's still north) It should be safe to assume that Thick Northerners and Northern Jessies are equal in quantity!!

I am DIM, this comes from a Biffy Clyro fan.
no need to get personal, you ............



au-revoir

Please close the door on your way out

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OH BLOODY DEAR !!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously fella as one northerner to another, you need to get yourself out more.

Here's a thought


lets have friendly banter but help each other out instead of fighting

Leigh Widnes etc why attack Quins it's the RFL that makes all the decisions that you don't agree with. So be a bit more supportive of the smaller clubs of which we all are really.

I mean we should all be helping each other out but all we end up doing is bicker and infight

Saints Wigan and Leeds have the biggest crowds yet even they are comparable to a 3rd tier football side.

What our game needs is a big marketing overall. Get someone in that knows what they are doing

Ah, my little anti-expansionist monkey.

Let me tell you a quick ditty about expansionism - we live in a world of constant globalisation. And whomsoever doesn't embrace it, dies.

It's a sensitive thing to mention on the Quins board given recent events, but Sky are the biggest single benefactor of the sport. Like it or not, TV revenues drive the top sport in this day and age, look at RU, Football, Cricket, Tennis and the like.

Any sport that contracts and withers up it's own a*se faces extinction. Sky will pay less and less for a sport that can only offer competition in a narrow corridor of the country. The more global the exposure, theoretically the larger the catchment, the bigger the advertising revenue that can be generated and subsequently the larger slice of the pie the sport can ask for and give to the clubs.

So, if instead of wimpering about having yet another SL club inside a 30 mile radius, get behind the expansion clubs and give them your support - they face a hard enough task anyway!


ps - it's statistician.

Rugby League deserves to be much popular than it is overall, not just Quins, in National League 1 (the 3rd division)very few crowds are above a 1000.
At Leigh this season, only Widnes have brought more than a 100 fans.
But it's £14 to watch Leigh in a league where there's no promotion, and we have only had 3 crowds above 2000. Haliax who play great rugby, and hardly lose, the crowds 'hover' round the 2k mark.
Only Widnes have a truly great fan base in the lower leagues. Nothing against 'expansion' clubs personally, but there doesn't seem that much genuine interest, but if you 'put' them in Super League, it would increase obviously. Even though say, 5000 is a lot more than 2245, is that a brilliant crowd anyway.

Absolutely true , bit dont forget that that money then only goes to the clubs that play in the televised competition , a competition from which clubs are being excluded because of location

So what exactly do we have to gain by supporting these expansion clubs ?

a) The opportunity to have a high (as possible) profile sport that you love on TV watched by people across the country/world, with sponsors queing up to put in money across all levels, SL, national league, community.

(the alternative is to sit and wither and end up with a localised sport, popular only in 2 or 3 areas of the world, sponsored (over here) by small local firms, pie companies, ale companies and gambling companies - this is already starting to happen, League is slowly losing the war...)

b) The chance to enter the competition by making sure you're a great second tier club, then applying for a license.

c) A larger talent pool due to more people playing the sport, resulting in a better international side, resulting in England possibly beating the Aussies. Resulting in more people liking RL because we have an interesting Interntational competition, resulting in more people playing/watching....call it a virtuous circle if you like...?

Rugby League, the sport I know and love, has already found itself in a sorry position due to the parochial nature of its small minded fans for over a 100 years.....

Doesn't actually work that way unfortunatley

Not happen with location included as criteria

In fact the RFL would be much happier if some of the smaller clubs ceased to exist as they have the misguided belief that fans would switch alliegance

Yes I agree with the larger playing pool and an eventual better international competition

But in all honesty the clubs outside have enough issues surviving to be too focused on that

and of course leigh are packing them in to the rafters at every home game,

will you be out smashing the looms again tonight??

like i sad before quins are here to stay and ae making a good fist of it, BTW if you hadn't noticed tony smith picked 2 young quins players in his england squad......................can you remember the last time leigh had 2 players come through to gain rep honours?????????

Last leigh player to make the England team would be Mickey Higham

Before that probably Paul Rowley

Then again it does work both ways , if we didn't have local SL clubs taking young players from the Leigh area we would possibly have got Scott Moore at leigh

I'm not attacking Quins attendances , just defending the right of clubs outside SL to prioritise what they do for their own benifit , which is exactly what the SL clubs do

so leave quins out of it, they have been around for nearly 30 years, hardly a new club are they??

it's only took LONDON RL 30 years, aww bless, better late than never

don't let time worry you old cockle,


like widnes leigh didn't get a franchise, just ing well get over it.

franchise - what a joke - just like London RL's crowds (inc skolars)
Promotion/Relegation, ah, those were the days. Did London RL get promoted to Sooper Dooper league, NO you were selected - DO US A FAVOUR and get de-selected. Your crowds are an embarassment to the RFL.
Put that in your pipe and 'smoke it'.

You're going to be really grumpy at school tomorrow if you don't go to bed soon son. When I was 13 I was using the internet at 11pm to try and find naked lady photos, and that was with primitive dial-up. God knows what a borderline pubescent could get hold of with broadband. And yet you choose to spend your time on this instead? Tsk, the youth of today, I worry about the future of this country.

sorry old lad but widnes aren't in super league and we get bigger crowds than leigh

Quite funny reading some of these posts! North v South wit. All this beer and whippet thing makes me smile, very few Southerners complain about our ale when they are up here & by the way one of the greatest pigeon racers of all time (Alf Baker) was a Londoner.
It's a franchise system that will be looked at after 3 years, everyone agreed to it. These are hard time for everyone most crowds are down, a team near us only had 4900 for a 6th round CC game the other week (not mentioning any names). ANYWAY GOOD LUCK AGAINST HKR NEXT WEEK!!!

The Fosters is quite nice up t'north