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| Well the Sunday morning after the Yowies game should provide some entertaining opinions on the whole set up.
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Well the Sunday morning after the Yowies game should provide some entertaining opinions on the whole set up.'"
The whole thing needs a massive review and to be fair, this may have happened.
For me, open the gates up, let the crowd in for nothing, go heavy on the local leafleting and community work on run up to game, take the minimal financial hit for stewarding and car park management - but engage the LBSA for data capture and ensure Buck and Dusty are handing out fixture lists etc (queue GF as I am no marketing expert). The union kicks off at 2pm so not sure how many of the fans will stick around until 645pm.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"The whole thing needs a massive review and to be fair, this may have happened.
For me, open the gates up, let the crowd in for nothing, go heavy on the local leafleting and community work on run up to game, take the minimal financial hit for stewarding and car park management - but engage the LBSA for data capture and ensure Buck and Dusty are handing out fixture lists etc (queue GF as I am no marketing expert). The union kicks off at 2pm so not sure how many of the fans will stick around until 645pm.'"
If the weather is as bad as last weekend that's going to be a long time in the cold and wet for any vaguely interested union fan to stick around!
I think the idea of opening up the gates for this one is a great idea, it's not as if a friendly is going to generate a crowd of more than a couple of hundred surely?-the club would probably makeup the losses on extra food / drink sales. Invite the locals in to come and watch us, who knows some of them may stick! And as you say, make sure their data is captured!
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| we had trailfinders lagers at the ground at £4.30 also went to weatherspoons about £1 cheaper
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| Is there a spoons nearby?
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Is there a spoons nearby?'"
There's the Sir Michael Balcon, the Mall not too far from Ealing Broadway station.
Nearest pub I saw as I walked back from Trailfinders to the Broadway is the Duke of Kent. Fuller's pub I think, looked OK
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| I have worked out that it would be a quicker journey to fly to Croatia then it is to get public transport from North London to the Trailfinders!
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| Theres an airport in North London? !!
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| London Luton!
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| north lodon to ealng!!....how long does it take you then???
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| Not sure which airline you use mate.
Croatia is a long way to go to watch rugby league.
Not sure how you can do that tho, I am 25 miles out of London only takes me 40 mins
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| Thats cause you can get a works helicopter Mickey
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| I wish mate
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| It is a pain with Castle Bar Park closed on Sundays, and the facilities are not ideal, but it's not Outer-Mongolia and from their RFU site it's clear it's a work in progress, so it will improve.
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"It is a pain with Castle Bar Park closed on Sundays, and the facilities are not ideal, but it's not Outer-Mongolia and from their RFU site it's clear it's a work in progress, so it will improve.'"
Work in progress? If we have ANY aspirations of returning to the top flight from here it's going to have to be- and progress is going to have to be rapid! Turnstiles and a temporary stand ASAP would be a start!
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| Well, in the albeit unlikely event that we prevailed in the 8's or even won the £1M Game, we would have another move on our hands as I'd be pretty sure they wouldn't allow the current standard in SL.
We may even stay based at Trailfinders but have to play all our games 'on the road', Loftus Road, Griffen Park, Orient, Gillingham etc.
But lets not get ahead of ourselves, thats why the first SL Broncos were doomed from the get go!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"But lets not get ahead of ourselves, thats why the first SL Broncos were doomed from the get go!'"
Not sure what you are getting at here.The first couple of years in SL were our most successful in terms of both crowds and attendances.
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| Why were sl broncos doomed from the get go? We were in sl for quite a number of years
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| We really gonna hash all that up again?
OK, it has always been my view that the Broncos and PSG should never have been "parachuted" into the top flight as one club was a small team with about 400 or 500 fans and the other NEVER existed.
Upon these foundations of clay I stated 20 years ago that this would fail and it did!
Now, can we PLEASE get on with the job we should have been doing 20 years ago and BUILD the foundations upon which a LONG TERM success can be built!
No mergers with others,no "gift" of top flight status, no 'ersatz' star studded team, just a solid, progressive build up until we reach that status naturally.
No fair-weather fans, here for the Wigun games, nowhere for the Wakey games. But proper fans, who really appreciate the highs, because they know the lows personally!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"We really gonna hash all that up again?
OK, it has always been my view that the Broncos and PSG should never have been "parachuted" into the top flight as one club was a small team with about 400 or 500 fans and the other NEVER existed.
Upon these foundations of clay I stated 20 years ago that this would fail and it did!
Now, can we PLEASE get on with the job we should have been doing 20 years ago and BUILD the foundations upon which a LONG TERM success can be built!
No mergers with others,no "gift" of top flight status, no 'ersatz' star studded team, just a solid, progressive build up until we reach that status naturally.
No fair-weather fans, here for the Wigun games, nowhere for the Wakey games. But proper fans, who really appreciate the highs, because they know the lows personally!'"
Well Broncos are now back where they were before SL but it has taken a while. It wasn't doomed to fail though. With half decent management a SL club in London is perfectly viable.
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| Quote No fair-weather fans, here for the Wigun games, nowhere for the Wakey games. But proper fans, who really appreciate the highs, because they know the lows personally!'"
You get that for all sports
What's a proper fan, go on set out the criteria. No doubt something that mirrors what you do
Do Tescos have proper shoppers or do they appreciate anyone who shops there whether it be every week or just to buy a turkey at Xmas.
I enjoyed watching the opposition particularly the great players.
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| I still don't understand why you are saying it's failed, the club are still in existence and still playing. Widnes hull kr Leigh Bradford have they all failed as well? Widnes and kr successfully spent time in lower leagues and have progressed back up.
As for fairweather fans, contrary to popular belief in don't mean it as an insult fans will drift away from the club for lots or reasons and will come back for lots of reasons.
There is no problem with folk that pick and choose specific games, I would rather they did that than not come at all!
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| Whatever, I stated what I stated way back when it was all first mooted, when the only real RL forum was the old BBC one.
I agree it didn't have to fail, but it was obvious from the outset that the onus was on immediate on-field success rather than long-term building and hence in my opinion it was doomed.
I'm no Cowgirl Nostalgist or Gutterfax who take great delight in this, I would have loved it to have been a success but I could see NO FOUNDATIONS!
As to fair-weather fans, that is what you get when you have a "build it and they will come" mentality. They have virtually all gone now, so discussing them is irrelivent.
I'm no super fan, 3 or 4 home games and the odd away game, a home shirt and occassionally an away one too is the limit of my commitment. It's never changed really (Except for the Quinns debacle, and even then my missus got me a top by mistake, lmao).
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| Quote As to fair-weather fans, that is what you get when you have a "build it and they will come" mentality. They have virtually all gone now, so discussing them is irrelivent.
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I've followed them for 20 years many as a ST holder
I don't go now(did Blackpool last year). What category do I sit in?
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