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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Good post Honky & I agree with just about all of it apart from the huge potential you feel Broncos have. Sadly I believe they & rugby league as a whole have missed the boat where the future is concerned. Can you imagine the RFL/Super League relocating teams to minimise covid impact say to the west country? Naaa! Let's face it the tail wags the RL dog in England. Hope may spring eternal but it is hard to see any future for the game as a whole without major reconstruction.'"
Agree completely, heard last night the doubts still about this weekend;s Challenge Cup with Covid, but what did shock me, there were plans, if either the finalists had not been able to play, one of the beaten semi finalists would replace them?
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| Quote ="wire-quin"From a distance seems like a great win from an inexperienced side.
York have wasted some money on pensioners. The so called super coach at York must be under pressure
Congratulations on a superb first win for the interim coach.'"
Thomas seems such a genuine humble Guy! and something really raised the level of yesterday, impresses me the youngsters are really developing! In the week the York media were really confident.
If criticism is fully deserved, I will accept it, yes PR especially because of my career, but when you announce you are leaving a ground, is it really if money is tight worth spending money, you need to save the money for the new ground launch. The delay in the move has not been down to the club.
None of us know what discussion took place, with Danny and The Club, I said last week, when players announce they are moving next season, so early, they should go!
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| Quote ="crashmon"I guess you also need to take away fans into consideration when looking at the numbers. I could be wrong, but normally York should have more travelling fans than Haven or Swinton, but as I did not go yesterday, can't comment on how many away fans attended (we did go to haven and swinton games).
But it was a great result, and I'm glad for the team that they have put the Fev shambles behind them'"
Other than a group in the away Directors area I saw two York fans.
To be honest I think the number of away fans turning up is small fry compared to the home support we appear to have lost.
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| I think Widnes and Newcastle will be a better judge of the current squad we have (which owing to injuries is weaker than what we put out vs these two teams earlier in the season). Win both of those, and at least the playoffs should be secured (either in 5th or 6th).
Could we beat Fax / Bradford in sept with some players back in a one off game, if we have players back yes I think we could win through the first round of the playoffs, but that would be as far as we can go. If Tom Tsang takes us that far he will have done well.
If we beat Widnes in two weeks, we should pretty much elimate them from the playoffs, so will be a big game
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Well after 25 years I've been missing last season (donated the season ticket money to the club) and this season due to ill health. I hope to be back later this season. Apologies I can't comment today.
BTW it seems most of "our" loyal fans weren't missing as it has been stated the crowd was similar to the last few. It might be worth asking why the loyal support base is now that low rather than burning bridges with those who have had enough.
Given he lives in NZ I think Orangeman can explain his absence'"
Looking at the game on TV I think it must have been the lowest attedance of the season, both stands behind the posts had very few in them compared to other home games. There did not seem to be any/many York supporters.
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| The team had a great win and worked for each other. Shame those in the back office cannot admit they are clueless and shame they cant admit they were wrong to alienate fans I feel for the team playing in front of so few people but then I'm not welcome so cant add to the total.
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| Quote ="Traffic"Other than a group in the away Directors area I saw two York fans.
To be honest I think the number of away fans turning up is small fry compared to the home support we appear to have lost.'"
We have about 250 supporters right now. We are hoping to get to Widnes in two weeks as its the final ticket of the 4 games offer, but thats only 3 of us.
We can't get to wimbledon for other reasons I have posted before, but I am hoping the three of us can get to Widnes game
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| I'm in the same boat as Crashmom. I missed Whitehaven because of my car being off the road but my wife, son and I have got to Ealing for games. Wimbledon looks too difficult for us. My wife isn't really that sporty and doesn't understand all the rules but she said she was much more entertained by the win yesterday than she was in a long while.
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| Moving grounds can always be difficult for many, I know that many Saints lifelong supporters never moved to the whatever Wicked Stadium it is! from Knowsley Road, even a town rooted in rugby league, I've never been to the new ground! To think zi used to arrive at 1pm for a 3pm kick off, to ensure I could get on the wall,in the boy's pen.
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| Quote ="crashmon"We have about 250 supporters right now. We are hoping to get to Widnes in two weeks as its the final ticket of the 4 games offer, but thats only 3 of us.
We can't get to wimbledon for other reasons I have posted before, but I am hoping the three of us can get to Widnes game
Geoff'"
Apologies it was by no means meant as a criticism of you or any other supporter.
There are a number of people for who this change is not practical, my ask is what are the club doing to retain fans who can make the move more easier than perhaps you or I?
I doubt if we'll be able to make Wimbledon as its only another 10 miles or so more but if I remember rightly like you, parking is a big issue. Its a 320 mile round trip by car to Ealing and rather than park on the street we also pay the £5 parking as it helps the club,, another 20 miles is neither here no there but no parking means no tickets for us.
So, just between two posters on a random website which is by no means fully representative of the 'lost' fans, the club have lost six tickets per game which is 2% of their income from current ticket sales. I hope the club engages with those who can make it or they'll need an even greater number of new people to generate revenue.
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| Traffic put me in your equation and its nine.
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| I'm refusing to go until the club sorts itself out.
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| I'm not going as Sunday at Ealing doesn't work for me. When I bought my Membership (yes I know more fool me), I assumed if we were able to attend it would be Wimbledon or Rosslyn Park. Club made no mention of Ealing at the time. At least the Club are enjoying my largesse but unless they communicate something positive going forward & soon, then not sure I can be bothered anymore.
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| If I were still living in west London the hive would have been difficult for me, Ealing a breeze and Wimbledon probably a non starter.
I hope the club can attract 1,000 to Wimbledon, but the reality is that aiming for 1,000 at a game shows how far we've fallen.
The fact that were talking about making the second week of the playoffs as a success is another indication of the death spiral were in
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| I agree. Communication from the club is long overdue. Not just to the Apes OSG, but to one and all.
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| Quote ="orangeman"If I were still living in west London the hive would have been difficult for me, Ealing a breeze and Wimbledon probably a non starter.
I hope the club can attract 1,000 to Wimbledon, but the reality is that aiming for 1,000 at a game shows how far we've fallen.
The fact that were talking about making the second week of the playoffs as a success is another indication of the death spiral were in'"
Just to be clear I don;'t consider making the 2nd week of the playoffs a success from a club perspective, anything less than promotion is a failure, and I wrote this season off weeks ago.
What I said was if Tom Tsang manages to make the 2nd week of the playoffs, for him it will be a success, considering he has no championship experience, has had to take over first team coach at very short notice, and has the weakest squad in History and 1/2 injured. So for him, from where he takes over the team, getting to that stage would be a success.
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| Quote ="crashmon"Just to be clear I don;'t consider making the 2nd week of the playoffs a success from a club perspective, anything less than promotion is a failure, and I wrote this season off weeks ago.'"
This season was written off in 2020. We were bang average then before th plug was pulled and we didn't heed the warnings....this year we're flattered by only losing to toulouse by 24....they'd have stuck a ton on us if we'd travelled.
Next year is looking even worse with 80% if the squad off contract........without summat we'd be relegation candidates
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| Quote ="BroncoBen"https://bit.ly/2UC2KJX'"
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| Quote ="jaybs".... but when you announce you are leaving a ground, is it really if money is tight worth spending money, you need to save the money for the new ground launch.'"
Again. You claim not to be an apologist but you're AGAIN making excuses for them.
In terms of the new ground launch......lol
Recently on a tv screen near you and after ward had offered to stay but was told to go....
Carney: " did you ever see or hear of a strategic plan For London during your 14 years as a player and coach at the club"?
Ward: "No"
The launch will be a KO time and posts in the ground expecting people to arrive......as well you know it will
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| Quote ="orangeman"Hmmm.....Toulouse or elite 1?'"
Either way probably better than hanging around here taking part in the Broncos Lottery of whose's next?
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| Quote ="orangeman"Again. You claim not to be an apologist but you're AGAIN making excuses for them.
In terms of the new ground launch......lol
Recently on a tv screen near you and after ward had offered to stay but was told to go....
Carney: " did you ever see or hear of a strategic plan For London during your 14 years as a player and coach at the club"?
Ward: "No"
The launch will be a KO time and posts in the ground expecting people to arrive......as well you know it will'"
Retention of customer base during a transition is a key driver of any business. Whilst fans of a club are less likely to move to the competition i.e. another club, the expectation that fans can be treated as dispensible and do need even more engagement at this time is laughable. Unless of course the club know that they'll get a capacuty crowd at Wimbledon and don't need them
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| Quote ="Traffic"Retention of customer base during a transition is a key driver of any business. Whilst fans of a club are less likely to move to the competition i.e. another club, the expectation that fans can be treated as dispensible and do need even more engagement at this time is laughable. Unless of course the club know that they'll get a capacuty crowd at Wimbledon and don't need them
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Happy to be wrong but think after the honeymoon period, AFC will struggle to fill their ground.
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Maybe, at least their honeymoon will start with a much larger crowd number to fall from. Worried we'll struggle to fill a stand let alone the ground.
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| There will probably be more people in Lidl across the road than the stadium.
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