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| Quote ="Simon M"Half right as I said earlier, you have to have something to market first before you try and sell the product.
No matter how good a marketing person is, that can't sell a crap experience twice and who would want to pay again to see us???
The Club should sack Powell now, get in a decent coach, give all current season ticket holders renewal at 50% of this years price and work their s off from now till next season marketing and training.'"
This brings us back to the subject of turd polishing.
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| Good thread this, Moe embarrassing himself again
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| Quote ="Moe Lester"My reasons for moving East are;
1.) Closeness to a number of amateur clubs. For example, Medway Dragons .../quote
Strange justification for moving.
It's pretty well documented that Broncos preferred game slot is Saturday 3pm, and the community game play on a Saturday in London, which means a good many of them can't make Broncos games. And if they've played on a morning, even if it's within reasonable distance, they are less likely to watch a SL game in the afternoon anyway as then the entire day would be taken up with RL and mum and dad often have other ideas. The numbers playing community Rugby League in London & the South are decent but it's not the answer to Broncos attendance worries, nor are there enough of them that if every single player in the entire community game came there still wouldn't be over 2k.
Yes, some junior players and adult amateur players go to watch Super League, but not a significant number. The number of free/cheap/dirt cheap season ticket deals over the years have shown that being a junior team player and a Super League fan aren't the same thing.
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| Quote ="Simon M"GF, you too freely call people idiot and that's really not on.'"
Sorry Simon M.....Look away now if you are that sensitive.
Quote ="Moe Lester"My reasons for moving East are;'"
If my thoughts below sound a little condescending, that's because they are.......just to clarify it NOW rather than later, when Jaybs tries to rescue you.
Quote ="Moe Lester"1.) Closeness to a number of amateur clubs. For example, Medway Dragons wouldn't be the end of the earth in terms of travelling time from Stratford International. Its a known fact that thousands of tickets were given to the Medway club for the Gillingham game, by moving nearer more may be tempted to buy season tickets/attend the odd game or three.'"
So, based on the fact that you know the names of more clubs near where you are based, rather than the names of clubs where you aren't, bundled together with the "pretend" fact that your "pretend" free tickets were taken up in greater numbers than the "pretend" free tickets handed out in West London and or Medway, you believe that a move East is the way forward?
Using your logic....and I do use that term as loosely as I dare, the club should have moved to Welford Road in 2000, given that's where they got their biggest gate of 1999.... We could have become the Perpignan Broncos in 2006, give that's where our highest home gate of 2005 was....
Quote ="Moe Lester"2.) 2012. This year as we well know, we have the Olympic Games in the East of the City. There will then be thousands of houses built on the site, which will eventually be filled, giving the club =#FF0000even more people to aim at. Also, the sporting facilities left behind will be top notch and of Olympic standard. Better facilities will result in better Academy products in the future but that bit is just my opinion.'"
The Bit in RED Bold reminds us that all of your previous efforts on justifying a move east have revolved around any such shift involving marketing, whilst totally ignoring the fact that the club have not marketed themselves anywhere else. I would suggest that rather than a costly move to pastures new, the club actually spend some money marketing where they are currently before upping sticks.
Quote ="Moe Lester"3.) Public transport. One stop from Leyton and you're in Stratford. From there you can get to France and also Kent and Essex. Not only that but you will be in the West End/City within 30 minutes. Also, the A12 meets up with the M25 and M1 which is handy for the fans of the SEVEN Yorkshire based clubs.'"
Twickenham Stoop is one of only a handful of purpose built Rugby Stadiums in the country. It is approximately a 10 minute walk from an rail line that is served by 20+ trains an hour and is in an area that is served by 25+ bus routes....in addition, it is in the shaddow of a stadium that has no problem getting 82,000 people through it's gates 7 or 8 times a year. As for Northern fans......as I have shown over the years, with my obsessive hobby of crowds at London games, the "away" fans that you speak of, often enough, are residents in London......when Wigan, Leeds or Saints play us, there are very rarely any more coaches than for other teams in the car park......yet these teams attract on average 1,500 to 2,500 more fans......where are they hiding these 75 seater coaches.....20+ of them
Quote ="Moe Lester"Not only just for my purpose.'"
Maybe not, but come back when you have a decent set of arguments for a move east other than to cover up the mistakes of the last 17 years by moving somewhere else to repeat them again, rather than facing the problem head on and doing something about it!
By the way.......THIS IS NOW A DERAILED THREAD............you were a tad premature with your assertion earlier that only made you look like an IDIOT.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I have never mentioned moving East for months.'"
which is it?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="Simon M"GF, you too freely call people idiot and that's really not on.'"
Sorry Simon M.....Look away now if you are that sensitive.'"
No, this time you are spot on mate.
Where the Club is based is fine. All the claptrap about RL being working class sport, can't work in leafy Twickenham etxc., is total .
We've had good crowds in the past, so there's no reason whith a decent product on the pitch backed by great marketing that we can't have good crowds again.
Every other arguement is a smokescreen.
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| Quote ="Simon M"We've had good crowds in the past, so there's no reason whith a decent product on the pitch backed by great marketing that we can't have good crowds again.
Every other arguement is a smokescreen.'"
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| What moving ground has to do with "getting rid of Powell" is beyond me!
The decision of the ground we play at or if we do in the future though may be out of our hands as a Club and again we can go on until the cows go home, but we are just a very small percentage of the few fans we have left anyway!
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| Quote ="jaybs"What moving ground has to do with "getting rid of Powell" is beyond me!'"
it's a brilliant plan.....we move to brisbane road for 2013 and just don't tell him.......
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| Quote ="gutterfax"it's a brilliant plan.....we move to brisbane road for 2013 and just don't tell him.......'"
Baldrick, that plan is so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel!
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| You wont have to be attempting to find ways of getting rid of Powell for too much longer at all...
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| Quote ="Mike-HKR"You wont have to be attempting to find ways of getting rid of Powell for too much longer at all...'"
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| Quote ="Mike-HKR"You wont have to be attempting to find ways of getting rid of Powell for too much longer at all...'"
Please tell us your not on a wind up mate, we deserve better!
On yer bike Towell....................
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| Quote ="Bronco believer"Please tell us your not on a wind up mate, we deserve better!
On yer bike Towell....................
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No wind up at all, I know you guys have already been through more than enough in recent years, though your prayers should be answered in some form shortly!
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| Quote ="Mike-HKR"No wind up at all, I know you guys have already been through more than enough in recent years, though your prayers should be answered in some form shortly!'"
Do tell more. Please!
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| Quote ="Mike-HKR"You wont have to be attempting to find ways of getting rid of Powell for too much longer at all...'"
Cheers Mike.....comforting to know.
Maybe you could clear something else up for us suverners....exactly how many Australians do you have on your books?
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| Potters comments at the Bulls are interesting in that he is open to offers from UK clubs. He did say he was heading home so it makes you wonder if he has been touched up-One can only dream
Just makes you wonder just how much someone like him could offer to our club compared to what we currently have.
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| Anyone seen the @RobPowellCoach account on Twitter?
Fantastic!
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| First of all, I am in Australia, I still listen to most London games (all of them recently have been depressing listening!). I rarely post on here but read these forums daily!
I decided to take a look back to the threads from July 2007 (when I left the UK), and it is quite alarming how very negitive and depressing these boards are compared to 2007. I suggest if you have time have a look because it is very very different atomsphere on here then.
Sometimes I hate reading this board, fans on here are snapping at other fans. Of course this is a forum for discussion and debate, but the behaviour of some people on this board is very concerning. The reason being the teams performances, and the coach is to blame.
I wander sometimes if DH or Gus ever read these boards, because from what I read I would be very concerned about the product, and the fans reaction displayed on this board by its fans should be ringing alarm bells. Come on DH and Gus, there is a massive disconnect, get rid of Powell!!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"..............Failure has got to stop being rewarded.........'"
Appears to work in the world of Banking, maybe they are applying it to the world of Broncos RL?????
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| Quote ="richie166"Do tell more. Please!'"
Sorry for the late reply!
I don't claim to know the ins and outs and all the details, but a replacement for Powell for next season is being hunted from the other hemisphere, and an interim Aussie may well be replacing Powell before the end of the season...
Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="Mike-HKR"You wont have to be attempting to find ways of getting rid of Powell for too much longer at all...'"
Cheers Mike.....comforting to know.
Maybe you could clear something else up for us suverners....exactly how many Australians do you have on your books?'"
Well in terms of how many Australians we will have next season, the amount will still more higher than many other teams, but we are reducing the numbers more significantly now.
From this years team we wont have McDonnell, Galea or Webster next year, and Joel Clinton also seems to be on his way out. Corey Patterson is coming to Rovers, but he may well be the only overseas signing, and if he isnt it seems there will only be one more at most.
Therefore, next year our list of Australians will be:
Michael Dobson
Blake Green
Corey Patterson
Micky Paea
Con Mika
Ryan O'Hara- Crusaders Dispensation
Lincoln Withers- Crusaders Dispensation
Rhys Lovegrove- Classed as Homegrown
Don't think I've missed out any others from that list but I'm not certain!
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| Quote ="Mike-HKR"
Well in terms of how many Australians we will have next season, the amount will still more higher than many other teams, but we are reducing the numbers more significantly now.
From this years team we wont have McDonnell, Galea or Webster next year, and Joel Clinton also seems to be on his way out. Corey Patterson is coming to Rovers, but he may well be the only overseas signing, and if he isnt it seems there will only be one more at most.
Therefore, next year our list of Australians will be:
Michael Dobson
Blake Green
Corey Patterson
Micky Paea
Con Mika
Ryan O'Hara- Crusaders Dispensation
Lincoln Withers- Crusaders Dispensation
Rhys Lovegrove- Classed as Homegrown
Don't think I've missed out any others from that list but I'm not certain!'"
Cheers
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| Quote ="Mike-HKR"Sorry for the late reply!
I don't claim to know the ins and outs and all the details, but a replacement for Powell for next season is being hunted from the other hemisphere, and an interim Aussie may well be replacing Powell before the end of the season...
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Cheers pal, sounds good to me!
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