There were a lot of factors which meant many set off and turned back, low away support, and some prefered to stay home and watch other major sports on TV rather than risk being seriously disappointed by another performance as we had at Hull.

Our fan base consists of various degrees of loyalty. When you get past the hardcore there are many who enjoy the game but expect to see their team compete or they will not bother. We need a good win to convince these fans. They came to see us play Saints and seemed happy but the team let them down badly following that. Unfortunate really Hull was on TV where they could see how bad it was. Remember we lost a lot of these people with the thrashings we got last season. This was supposed to be the new dawn!?

The rebrand is the last spin of the dice. If we can't grow crowds over next 2 seasons then we don't deserve a franchise.

What's saying that the RFL/Sky may assist with the ground move before the end of two seasons? even after this season.

Even if they did, do you think that would grow crowds ? The evidence of the past would suggest it would make no difference.

giants scorpio as a northern bloke based down here, and having followed the bronco's, quins, what over for the last 10 ish years, please accept my apology for the rude idiotic comment from Listy!
There are lots of reasons why we have such a poor away support, mainly due to finances and a lot to do with Fri night kick off, even sunday is rubbish, worse days to travel the M1 M5/M6 when you have work fri and Mon
At least you lot brought a couple of coach loads, I think last time we took a coach anywhere it broke down and they missed the game
Its our home support we need to worry about and not rely on away supporters and insulting those that do make the effort.
RL has always been a friendly sport where you can sit side by side with supporters of the other team, comment like cretin from Listy do nothing to foster that at London

FWIW I used to travel 100miles each way to home games, its changed a bit now and a little closer but public transport is not viable for me, but i always get there when i want

All I am saying is this could be the last throw of the dice! or do we play out the last two seasons at The Stoop, that is if the owners allow/want us & charge us a rent worth staying. It always disappoints me that David Hughes is often blamed for the situation we are in, without David we would not be here now anyway, do people seriously think he wants to throw his own savings away? it is always a dream of mine to be able to invest in the club in a major way, but not to just burn money! Some people may knock Gold & Sullivan at my footie team West Ham, but they are trying to run a tight ship, offers like kids for free on matches we would not sell out, not giving players stupid wages like the Icelandic owners did, many Premiership teams would like to have the 30,000 plus we attract regular.

First all I want to see from The London Broncos is to get a winning mentality, even if it is not attractive ruby at first. I was not happy when West Ham brought in Big Sam as manager, but his boring football may and should get us promoted, that is what counts. We need to be at least half way up the Super League and then put the money into marketing to bring in crowds to see a winning team that can complete.

Thank God for that...I thought I was the only one who had these thoughts.....and I have had them since Ian Lenegan went to Wigan.

Firstly, I applaud and thank Mr Hughes for continuing to ensure that I have a club to support....there is no doubt that without his tireless and unshakable committment to the club and the game itself in the south, we would all be Skolars fans, but I have to say that I would much rather the club blood 3 more youngsters in the squad and take the salaries of 3 players such as Karl, Howell and Randall (who apparently have done nothing in the first 4 games to point to them being game changers) and spend it on Marketing and Promotion.

I have no evidence that Mr Hughes prevents marketing spend, or simply refuses to allocate sufficient budget for a decent campaign, but I have to say that since we moved to TW2 in 2006, we have had 4 CEO's, 3 Commercial Managers and 2 Marketing Managers and nothing has changed......during which time there has been 1 constant at the club.

To quote the Stranglers:
"Something's happening and it's happening right now
You're too blind to see it
Something's happening and it's happening right now
Ain't got time to wait
I said something better change"

I said it ages ago and got lambasted.

The North London derby being played at the same time, the problems with public transport getting to Twickenham and the team's 0% record this season are never going to help to push the attendance above the 2000 mark.

Answer the question.

Sorry, but that is a set of excuses worthy of a 5yr old...all that was missing was "the dog ate my ticket"



1. The North London Derby would have little interest for anyone in West or South West London. It would have been watched by about 1,000,000 on Sky and 60,000 at the game......pretty big place London.
2. Public Transport is fine. Yes, a bit of engineering works is a pain in the butt, but, tubes ran to Richmond and all the bus routes in and out of Twickenham were as usual......I showed in another thread there were plenty of routes in and out of Twickenham for fans.....we just don't have enough fans.
3. 0% win rate is 0% win rate......this is still our team and as we have won absolutely Sweet Fanny Adams since we joined the Superleague, there is little or no room for fair weather fans.....if I only wanted to see my team win, then possible Widnes and Wakefield at home would be the 2 games I'd bother going to......being a London RL fans has little to do with "winning"

This incarnation of the club, we were informed, was the new begining, yet people who live withing 5 miles of the ground have gone on record as saying that there has been no activity to raise awareness in the immediate region.......Evening Standard, the clubs official media partner has no mention of the game on their site, neither has TNT, another "Sponsor"....as for best of Richmond, another sponsor, they don't even mention us in their directory........although our landlords to get a mention
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By all means excuse the club for it's failings that are out of its control, but don't use public transport, a soccer match across town and a slow start to the season as an excuse.......1,970 was a disgrace for the second outing for a "new" club.

In business, you speculate to accumulate.......time for someone to get the cheque book out and pay for some top level promotional activity.

Will you still have a club in the Championship?

Nope.....
DH has said he's offski in a few years and without either a viable business plan, sponsors and a fanbase of over 5k, the club will either fold or be propped up (as it should have been IMO) by SKY/News Int as is the case in Melbourne.

I'm ashamed to say I didn't attend, but that was because I had a back spasm and couldn't walk.

The answer is I don't know and i don't think anyone does, it would need some market research in the area we look at, but it is clear as I have said over & over again that The Stoop is not going to work for us and again as I stated clearly in the last comment we don't know if they want us, they seem currently to want to take the money off us and run! Some think I have something against The Stoop, I loved it first time around and I felt it was best we returned this time or we may have folded at that time, but it is simply not working.

I'm sure no one can deny that the attendance at the weekend was a total disgrace, it will give the northern negatives something to moan about, what is the problem, is it just that we are a losing team? the transport problems, but they seem to happen most weekends in London, where did those who came to the St Helens game all disappear to?

If there was a decent product to market would that help the situation?

Don't all laugh at once, but didn't DH state when announcing that he was in it for another 3 years, that we would be getting marketing support from the RFL?

Thast every home game for us

RFL Marketing Support seems to be 'send an e-mail out on the Broncos mailing list three days before a game and see what happens'

If there was anywhere the RFL, you would think, would be able to help us, it would be better engagement with media outlets.

I can't believe that the Broncos don't leafllet every house in the TW2 area when a home match is due. Has this been even tried?
How many local shops have posters in their windows showing who the Broncos are playing next?
What sort of coverage do the Broncos get in the local newspaper/s?

As The Penguin states it would help from the RFL assisting with better media communication, it is throwing money down the drain to spend excessive on marketing when the product is not going to appeal to the paying customer and what we are producing on the pitch presently is not going to pull them in by the thousands, did the club itself not state the reason for not having a sponsor was due to several interested parties seeing how we perform?

Simon (think that was the reporter's name) used to give good coverage in one of the local papers but the main London paper (The Standard), which is allegedly our media partner

,gives us pretty much close to f**k all squared in a box!

We don't leaflet, we don't do fixture posters, BBC London TV news or "London Tonight", the ITV regional news never feature the club. The Richmond & Twickenham Times do put in reports, but when you have Media Partners in "The Evening Standard" whose coverage of the club is sweet sod all, then it kind of sums it all up really.