Fair play to you.

What baffles me even more than the supporters who clap no matter what is David Hughes himself. I cannot fathom how this man who has poured so much of his own money into the club, can tolerate what he gets back from these players year after year.

But we didn't lose 50-0 to Whitehaven so what's the point of the question

Micky, don't act the simpleton

Its a hypothetical situation.

Lets say we were lose 50-0 at home to Whitehaven, would you clap the players off the field?

I clapped the players off the other week at Leigh, because I felt they had done a reasonable job in an away game against a better side and had earnt some recognition. I doubt I would do the same for any 50-0 home loss

Sorry if I offend anyone here,but your comments makes you a prime example of what not to have in RL clubs..I think Broncos will sleep well knowing your going watching a Soccer match.And to be honest your probably better staying with that sport as you obviously are lacking education in RL..

rupe1: These days I go to almost as few games as you do, so I certainly wouldn't have the effrontery to criticise those who do go. If people pay their money and spend their time, it's entirely up to them whether or not they clap the players off the pitch and they certainly don't have to justify themselves to you or me.

what? Both of them?

I want to just lay down from where I am coming from.

I left from the UK to Aus 2 days after we played Hull FC in the 2007 season. Back then we had a team which was looked upon by all other SL sides as a bit dangerous, and by no means easy pushovers. A team that included LMS, HP, Mclinden, Tye Smith, Scott Hill, Chris Melling, Clubb, Matt Gafa, Hecks, Purdham, Hopkins, Danny Orr. Allow me to emphasis the point I am trying to make here. I remember in the 2006 season I went to see the Bradford match at the Stoop, we were 36-0 down at half time, and I think the score at the end was 60ish - 4, I remember Lee Hopkins saying repeatedly that as long as he was in the team that kind of result will never ever happen again. The whole team was shell shocked, even Mike Worrincy. I remember was in the Kings bar head down and just unable to comprehend what had just happened. Mclinden who always was a brash type of fellow was very annoyed and visibly angry about the performance his team had just produced. I talked to Gafa, and he said that if this had happened at Canberra the players would be bricking themselves at the possibility at being put in front of the raiders fans after the match. But he said that Quin RL fans (thats us) had taken it very well, he suffered no abuse, no 'what the hell were you doing out there' or 'your 5h1t'. If he would be in Canberra they would have been lynched.

The fact is that Quins RL/Broncs fans were quite blasé about a performance like that as we would know that things would be put right in the week and they would come out firing the next week with 3 weetabix inside them, and firm kick up the you know what and a rocket inserted up there whatsits!!!

When I left the UK, Quins RL were a force in the super league, and as such we had very high expectations in getting a result against any team we played (especially after beating saints AWAY on the first game of that season in 2007). Now, lets fast forward to July last year. I came up to the Hive (Hated the ground and it is was a pain in the to get there), I watched the Saints game in which we got really battered. Compare our team and performance that day to where we were in 2007, we are light years apart!

But I met up with some fans that I used to go to the games with in 2007, and it seems that they are broken men, very grounded down and really at rock bottom. There was no life in their eyes, there was no enjoyment like we used to have in 2007, the reason they went was only for the beers and company.

THAT IS OUR PROBLEM. For gutters and Rooster who can attest to this, I get to see my dad every 2 years, my sister can't see it but I can see noticeable change in my dad's sharpness and health, he still gets along but a little bit slower and ditherier than he did 2 years ago. That’s how I see you lot who still attend games. Please take no offence to what I have just said or take me out of context. I see you guys as loving our club, but a hard life over the past few seasons has taken the enjoyment out of what you are doing. You have become stuck in a rut and bereft of any life in following the Bronc's. Perhaps this is why the clapping still goes on, perhaps it is going back to the rare dark days in the middle part of that last decade where you know the Purds, Hopkins and HP will fire in the next week and put things right.

Sorry for the long post, I wanted to write something similar to this after the St Helens match last year but couldn’t be bothered!!

At which point do you advise that supporting your team is no longer worth while - when you're relegated from Super League? When you finish mid-table in the Championship? Goodness forbid when you drop to Championship 1? Is there a points system that you can use to decide when it's right to quit?
None of us are happy that we're losing to Whitehaven, our coach quit etc., but that's where we are. I'm going to support the coach and the team I have.

Rupe - yes, if I think someone worked hard or showed passion, I'll clap him off. 50-0, or worse. I did it when we were being pummelled by Bradford at Griffin Park, I'll do it again this year (although obviously I'd prefer it if we were dishing out the pummelling).

For the record, I'm a bit slower than I was two years ago, but not more dithery.

I hope they do sleep well. Attending this soccer match will be two other lapsed season ticket holders and two our mates who also regularly attended games at The Stoop. A day out at a non-league match is a far more appealing prospect than a visit to a club that has had its soul ripped out. In fact, some Broncos fans might like it, you can usually meet the players afterwards and shake their hands.

Such "humour" tempts me to apply the ignore feature to you again, but I'll just ignore you anyway gutters.

While I agree that everyone has the right do as they please regarding clapping and shaking hands after being smashed I do find it strange , I don't agree with booing as in my opinion that never works but I think an empty stand or people just walking out the exits says enough. I remember a while ago when someone talking to chad Randall I think it was said to him your quite fortunate that we don't even give you a hard time after a big defeat, his exact words were maybe you should.

That's right Brix, Chad said to me & my sis that London fans shouldn't be applauding the players after a loss (as did Joey Grima when he came to thank us for travelling to Craven Park. Joey said the team hadn't been good enough and we shouldn't be showing appreciation for a bad show).

I guess this is a London thing though..maybe we are too polite (although doesn't seem that way when you travel on London Transport).

There's been some interesting debate here. And it's an issue that's bothered me for a long time. As fans, we are nowhere near demanding enough. Because of the club's turbulent history, I think a lot of us got into a mind-set of "just be thankful we have a club to support at all" - which is a point I understand, but we have to look for more.

When you're an expansion club, there should be an atmosphere of dynamism and growth, and there was never enough of either with us. Compare us to the Catalans. It's a really stark contrast. Decision-making was, and still is, muddled, underperformance is not challenged, but we as fans don't pull them up on it.

I think you're spot on, Penguin.

It certainly does seem to be a Broncos thing.

I bet Gower thought we were a right load of saps for putting up with the rubbish efforts by his team.

Only time I can recall any concerted booing of our players by Broncos fans was in a match at Charlton. Can't remember opposition but the booing was directed at the performance of (you guessed it) Frank Napoli. It wasn't clear to me at the time whether the target was the hapless Napoli himself or John Monie for selecting him. And didn't Napoli then respond with a spectacular try? Or maybe not? ...

Like I saying booings not for me but sometimes it gets a reaction , remember the Warrington fans at the stoop a few years ago ? that seemed to be a turning point for them and although I'm only guessing it wouldn't surprise me if the hkr fans gave there team a volley at half time last week and look what happened there.

So if some of us set our shirts on fire the team will take the hint? And we'll start rocketing back up the table ?

Obviously thats taking it to extremes but surely you see the point ?

adrian cambriani used to get loads of stick....as did...sean hoare...napoli....harry beverley..ian van belle...im sure there are loads more !!!
in those days reg used to lay into them in changing rooms for half hour!!!

The money ran out, thats whats changed, once it became clear you can't really build an ersatz Grand Final Winner or top of the league team without losing money, the Branson's of this world got fed up of losing money and so buggered off, as did Lenaghan, Hughes will too!

You need to build from the bottom up, all those Broncos fans/believers/deluded-fools whatever, none seemed to grasp that the whole thing wasn't real, it was built on nothing. Even if we had of triumphed in 97 or lifted the Cup in 99, it would have made no difference to a club that had to be financially propped up and whose fanbase was full of fair-weather fans.

One bad season and the gates came tumbling down, as the crowds dwindled so did the best players and it became the inevitable unstoppable downhill spiral.

In 1994, when Brisbane hi-jacked the club, there were many who predicted exactly what has happened (ie right back where we were before), I thought 5 years, some said 10, some 15 and others said 20 (I was wrong it was twenty). But here we are, hurrah!!!

No one likes us....we don't care!

Well said Crusader Pete. People need to smell the coffee. DH money is a mirage which will one day evaporate. Then we will have to live on what we generate as any rational club should. All DH has done is create a Potemkin village RL club.

I have to disagree.

Firstly, running any sports club in the professional arena is rarely about making money. The losses incurred by our various owners over the 19 SL seasons wouldn't be enough to keep a premiership footballer happy for just 1 season. Then there's the manner in which this money was lost.
At no stage (since 2002 at least) has the club had a clear strategy to generate revenue, be that through fans or down a corporate route. Instead, the various owners have decided that a winning team is the solution and accordingly, all the eggs were placed in that basket, to the detriment of the "business" itself.
The attendances at any club that hopes to break even need to be 10,000. This figure has been declared by a number of chairmen and CEO's in SL and should be the minimum target for any club either in or aspiring to be in SL. It's not a mystery that the clubs who either make a profit or lose very little are the ones who average this figure. Even Hull FC, who have been pretty ordinary for a couple of years see the benefit of having that core supporter base.

As for those who predicted it would all end in tears after Brisbane came to the game, well done you. Problem is, the reason it's all ended in tears has nothing to do with Brisbane, nor Branson or even David Hughes. Brisbane had no concept of how minor a sport RL was in London, Branson thought all he had to do was put his name to it and it would work and Hughes has been led by his nose by a great number of freeloaders who took his cash and told him what he wanted to hear....they are culpable, but they are not the villains of this piece.
The main reason it's ended in tears is the lip service paid to the club by The RFL and SKY. The relationship between the RFL and SKY has, from day 1 always been about what sky wanted, when they wanted it and for as little as they wanted to pay. At no stage has the RFL ever "negotiated" as a business should, but instead hey have simply said thank you for the cash and circled their wagons to defend their position.
We were elevated at Sky's request, or that's what we are told, yet at no stage where we ever given extra resources to make sure we could put down roots and grow.

I don't disagree with your idea of building from the ground up by the way, but that will take 50+ years and there was an opportunity to short-cut that in London, if the RFL had had the gumption to demand a model similar to the NRL/FOX deal in Australia.
Brisbane, Nth Queensland and Melbourne were all at one stage owned by or propped up by the owners of the comp and it should have been the same with London and Paris in 1996. Failing that, once the club had started to wobble, the RFL and/or other SL clubs should have bought it, but the fear of annoying pit village club owners was too great.

As for the future? As I say, well done all those who predicted this back in 1994. I hope you're all happy supping soup from a flask at Chiswick Poly in a couple of years watching the Broncos v Hemmel Stags.......it'll be a good game, but it'll never be top flight. Not in this posters life time anyway!

Yawn!

Noone said we were happy GF, simply that we knew if the club wasn't financed in a way that ensured/insured we had a permanant base and a proper developement program, it would not work, we were right. The club has now been abandoned like a listing ship, only we the fans will ensure it doesn't shatter on the rocks and if that continuation is to be at a lower level, then so be it. We fully understand that the "fair-weather" fans will leave (99% of them have already done so).

I still go to games, I will go to my usual quota of half a dozen home games and an away game or two as I have done since Sept' 1991 (excluding the QRL period), I will buy my shirt and wear it with pride, yes pride, we are London RL, not SKY, not Soopah Leeeege or any bugger else!!!!!!!!

I remember the days at Charlton when the club said they needed 5000 average to break even (as an aside, that's probably the closest thing we ever had to a business plan). Of course we never got there, despite exceeding 4000 average for a couple of seasons.

I do recall sitting there just before kick off one week, looking at all the expensively hired in PA equipment and the Virgin Cola inflatables and thinking to myself "this can't last".