I think that was the point...

The Stoop is not the problem. Broncos got 5000+ crowds there ten years ago when the RU team barely tolerated their presence. In my opinion, the constant moving after that really hurt the club and destroyed the foundation of support that had been built, I mean, Charlton ffs! Moving again is, at best, going to provide a short term spike in attendances out of local curiosity that will inevitably fall when the club is not promoted to those who don't go, and fails to achieve in front of those who do.

Until players return from injury I don't think much will change on the playing side. When you have a team missing both first choice halfbacks, the first choice hooker and loose forward you're always going to see real trouble. But off the field the club needs to be promoted and promoted heavily and if Quins can't afford to do that themselves then the RFL need to put their hands in their pockets and help out. Sky have made it clear that Super League without a London team is something they are not prepared to pay anywhere near as much for as SL with Quins, so some RFL spending might annoy heartlanders in the short term but would be helping the game long-term. Ads on the tube would be perfect - they were stunningly successful in the 95 World Cup ahead of the Wembley matches. Moreover, internationals at the Stoop need to be strategically linked to the long-term growth of Quins RL. It's no good just putting an Aus-NZ game at the Stoop and expecting it to magically lead to increased attendances the following season. How about offering everyone there a half-price season ticket for the following year?

I'd also like to see the mid-season England match played down at the Stoop (when it's not in France). Contrary to the RFL's belief, expat Antipodeans are not the only people in London who will come out for an international. Hook the locals with the lure of seeing their country in action (if it's in a thumping victory over a spirited but over-matched France all the better) and use that to draw them in.

Promotion is next to non-existant at the moment. I only live a short distance from the Stoop but the only advertising I've ever seen for games around here are the posters I've put up myself!

Sorry, just read the marketing thread, will post thoughts there next time!

No, RU doesn't register on the radar in mid and North Wales, they're only interested in soccer - the Merseyside clubs in particular.

Very sensible post

Andy Powell of Brecon was a spectator.

if a london sides going to work they are gonna have to have every player doin marketing and promotions on a weekly basis. they need a certain amount of funding to promote league in general in the city not just the quins but the sport as well. that would have to come from the rfl.they have to find a way to make the kids and there parents involved in playing the sport become spectators as well. maybe a london super league side could link up with a soccer side like the whelsh super league side.

thers 10 m illion people there and must be able to figure out a way to get people from north of england, aussies, kiwis along to games as well as people originally from london to a game. find a few high profile suppourters to make apperances at games, sign a well known aussie or kiwi player, maybe even a gimmick dwayne chambers type of signing to get some media exposure.... i sure thrers a million good ideas that havnt been tried as of yet.


how many incarnations have this side had since they were fulham - were they the london crusaders for a while? - london bronco's now - the harlequins

seriously....stopi it. You are frightening me

blah blah blah. Anyone else bored witless of analysing how we should market ourselves better? I just want to go to home games forever and support the club in the only way I can.

After my recent outbursts and subsequent soul searching I agree.......it ain't going to change ever, so why worry about it.
I have even started posting comments regarding Rugby.........

who would have thought.

tre cool good on you supporting your side dude. but unless you find another 2,500 fans to add to your well below par 2,500 crowds to take it up to the 5,000 you wont have a team!


even toulouse who are in the mid/lower reaches of the division below supper league can get 2,500 crowds!
widnes would have 10,000 crowds guarented if they were in super league. they only reason anybody wants you still in the super league is because londons is an important city for rugby league to have a presence in! market yourself now or go play london skolars in division 3!

ooh look.........I see a lesser spotted troll on the horizon

Widnes were in SL for four consecutive seasons and never once pulled a crowd of 10,000, never mind averaging that figure.

Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Widnes were in SL for four consecutive seasons and never once pulled a crowd of 10,000, never mind averaging that figure.'" True: www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html

Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Widnes were in SL for four consecutive seasons and never once pulled a crowd of 10,000, never mind averaging that figure.'" True: www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html

Quote ="BroncOnIon"True: www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html'" I was going to post that but really don't see what use comparing our gates to anyone else is. We suffer with low awareness and will continue to struggle until something changes at the club. Until then, pointing out that Widnes, with 100+ years of history and pretty much SFA else to do over the weekend could attract 3 times the gates we get isn't really the work of a brain surgeon Back to the OP.......crusaders are doing fine and deserve a lot of credit for their gates.....but again, their gates are their gates......nothing to do with Quins RL.

Quote ="BroncOnIon"True: www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html www.slstats.org/t11/Widnes+Vikin ... mmary.html'" I was going to post that but really don't see what use comparing our gates to anyone else is. We suffer with low awareness and will continue to struggle until something changes at the club. Until then, pointing out that Widnes, with 100+ years of history and pretty much SFA else to do over the weekend could attract 3 times the gates we get isn't really the work of a brain surgeon Back to the OP.......crusaders are doing fine and deserve a lot of credit for their gates.....but again, their gates are their gates......nothing to do with Quins RL.

No mention of our gates and no comparison made. It was a reply to the "Widnes - crowds over 10,000" troll, backing up PoD.

That's what I meant...wasn't having a go at you, just saying I couldn't care if Widnes averaged 20k when they were in SL or even this year.

you can call me whatever you want but at the end of the day harlquins who i'd like to see doing well are in line for the wooden spoon and have attendance lower than a lot of teams in the division below them!

time for everyone at quins to pull finger, with help from rfl and league suppourting pubilc! if cant come up with strategies short term medium term and long term goals and bvelievable ways to attain them. then should go back to drawing board play in the lower divisions as having no plan is planing to fail....

anyway not into name calling so good luck with your club! hope you can turn it around!

er....I didn't call you a troll. I actually paid you a (back-handed) compliment......read my posts. It has all been done to death on these boards (mainly by me). The Club choose to go down the route they want to. Regardless of the suggestions made by the RFL or their representitives, the club is a business and the owners of that business have a right to do as they see fit. I do not agree with the route the club have taken...but that's that. Not a lot I can do about it.
I agree with you Kiwi's 13-6........and most on here do too, but it is now down to the club to sort it out.

Yes we're aware of that, but why follow up with a ridiculous irrelevant statement about what another club's attendances might be if they happened to be in SL when there's no evidence whatsoever to support it? You're attempting to reinforce your own argument with a load of bull.

Hang on, I don't know why that pillock was bringing us in to it but what the feck do you think the rest of the country is? Widnes is on the doorstep of two major cities. We have SFA to do? That's just unfair. We're also competing with the two biggest sporting clubs in the country and numerous other ones.

Awww, you are still a very irritable young man, aren't you?

Er...I wasn't having a go at Widnes.....just pointing out that an estimate of a 10k average the moment you landed in SL was a tad OTT and that when compared to London, there isn't that much more going on for you to compete against. These observations were not made with you in mind, just trying to point the new poster in the right direction when it comes to his observations regarding Gates at Harlequins. Chill CD.......you know I like Widnes, your fans and your stadium.