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| Quote ="richie166"But getting back to the topic at hand....
We had stand(s) closed at the Stoop and nobody complained. I know the Hive is smaller but unless we're near to capacity of the two side stands I don't see what makes it any different.'"
So....just so we're clear on this...you believe that rather than attempt to attract either new or lapsed fans back to the games, we should instead let the landlord decide which parts of the ground we are allowed to open?
At the big bad nasty Stoop, it was the club themselves who dicked around with which parts to open or close. In their frantic efforts to make us look more viable, they have moved us to a stadium that in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 we would have had overcrowding issues with, but now they are closing off 40% of the capacity to save THE LANDLORD SOME CASH
apologists anonymous would do a roaring trade at the hive on match-day....maybe Gus should flog them some sponsorship
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| Quote ="gutterfax"AK sees us as nothing more as an income stream. The income wasn't "streaming" enough, so he's cutting back on his costs. He's a businessman.....although I'd be asking where the marketing budget (BRIBE) the RFL gave him has gone......
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Are you seriously saying there was a bribe?
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Are you seriously saying there was a bribe?'"
The FACTS of the 2014 arrangement that have been made public are:
The Club pay rental and admin charges for the use of office space, the pitch at Underhill and the staff of the Hive in things like HR/Marketing/Admin...
The Hive collect and keep all ticketing and match-day revenue including bars and shop in return for the games being held there.
AK is in receipt of funds from the RFL to him directly, to market the club/games.
Why the would the RFL pay the landlord to market games when the only person to make a brass farthing from said marketing would be the landlord.
For the sake of the legal team at RLFANS.COM. I am not saying their was a Bribe......I am saying that it seems strange that the RFL would pay someone with no chance of seeing any return for either themselves, our club or the game in general.....call it what you will.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The FACTS of the 2014 arrangement that have been made public are:
The Club pay rental and admin charges for the use of office space, the pitch at Underhill and the staff of the Hive in things like HR/Marketing/Admin...
The Hive collect and keep all ticketing and match-day revenue including bars and shop in return for the games being held there.
AK is in receipt of funds from the RFL to him directly, to market the club/games.
Why the love would the RFL pay the landlord to market games when the only person to make a brass farthing from said marketing would be the landlord.
For the sake of the legal team at RLFANS.COM. I am not saying their was a Bribe......I am saying that it seems strange that the RFL would pay someone with no chance of seeing any return for either themselves, our club or the game in general.....call it what you will.'"
So there was no bribe?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"of course not.'"
Oh good. That clears that up then. It is not a bribe.
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| To be fair to the Hive I can see it makes sense for them, I presume it was their call. I just find it hugely dis-spiriting that at a time they should be trying to market us to the locals they decide to close off the cheapest tickets. It looks suspiciously like an admission of failure before we've even seen much evidence of marketing. If that had happened and gates were still shocking it would be less dispiriting.
I'd rather they'd given a few hundred terrace tickets for these games away to locals personally.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"I'd rather they'd given a few hundred terrace tickets for these games away to locals personally.'"
Apparently they tried this, but the local Tescos complained that it was hitting their bog paper sales.
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| The terraces are a big appeal to away fans and some home fans. You take it away and reduce attendances and appeal of the club. You also show a lack of ambition and vision for the club. I'm hugely disappointed with this police. The stadium is tiny and the open, tidy nature of it is it's redeeming feature.
You close the terraces and it becomes a soul-less one sided ground. I'm pretty close to giving up on the club tbh.
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| We wont be attending in our group until the terraces are re-opened
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| Quote ="richie166"Is it just me who doesn't see this as a big deal?'"
Thank you! Same here.
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| Quote ="richie166"Is it just me who doesn't see this as a big deal?'"
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Quote ="RLLDN"Thank you! Same here.'"
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Quote ="Lobbygobbler2"We wont be attending in our group until the terraces are re-opened'"
AH A group is considered 3 or more..so that's a 2-3 score-line.
What a stunning recovery......
It's a farce. The Landlord was "INCENTIVISED" to take us in and has already decided were not worth opening the whole ground for
Bradford are currently in possession of a better Corporate management team........as in they don't have one!
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Think it makes perfect business sense if it's not economically viable. Am glad TK is thinking in business terms than ing money up the swanny than have another administration situation which we saw.
Relentless Positivity 1 - Relentless Negativity 0. FT after the 2nd leg....Job's a good'un.
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Now we know what happened to Comical Ali...
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Think it makes perfect business sense if it's not economically viable. Am glad TK is thinking in business terms than ing money up the swanny than have another administration situation which we saw.
Relentless Positivity 1 - Relentless Negativity 0. FT after the 2nd leg....Job's a good'un.
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So how much would it cost to hire a couple of stewards on the minimum wage? You keep cutting back and back until there is nothing less. Closing off the option of cheap tickets in a season when there has been some huge price increases, e.g. youth tickets is not good business sense. The message closure of the terraces sends out is negative and a poor strategy.
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| So that's no security guards needed for behind the sticks, and every punter turning up needing to shell out at least another £3 - he's a businessman alright is TK!
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| What they could have done is closed the North, and the North Bar and lock it off, open the south stand for away fans, they don't get to swap but still have the end terrace open.
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| How many London fans were stood up on Sunday must have been 20 tops. No point opening for maybe an extra 50 or so Wakefield fans and bugger all Catalan fans
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| Why bother opening any stands? Let's just play in an empty stadium. Would save a fortune on stewarding and ticketing staff.
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| Apparently North Terrace will now be open.
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| Club would have been better closing off part of the stands and leaving the terraces open. Changing ends was a huge plus. Its the terraces that generate atmosphere. Hopefully the club will open both terraces up for the next game.
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| The North Terrace seemed quite popular with the visiting support.
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| Glad they opened it, stood in there 2nd half and it was a decent crack.
closing it would have ruined the atmosphere, glad they saw sense at the 11th hour
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| Quote ="Lobbygobbler2"Club would have been better closing off part of the stands and leaving the terraces open. Changing ends was a huge plus. Its the terraces that generate atmosphere. Hopefully the club will open both terraces up for the next game.'"
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