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| Cannot see what the problem with re negotiated deal at the Hive if that's what happens or is happening.
no names but some folk on here have whinged and moaned saying current set up is poop
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| Quote ="meliferra"He said Broncos are playing at the Hive next year and he didn't know where this nonsense of that not being the case had come from.
So show me that the RFL have been told Broncos aren't playing at the hive in 2015 and that there is an ounce of evidence to support your claim because I've come to the conclusion that it's bull.'"
Thanks for the confirmation melif, nice to have someone on here who is actually well informed.
And you're smart enough to have sussed that most of what GF spouts is BS.
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| Quote ="meliferra"He said Broncos are playing at the Hive next year and he didn't know where this nonsense of that not being the case had come from.
So show me that the RFL have been told Broncos aren't playing at the hive in 2015 and that there is an ounce of evidence to support your claim because I've come to the conclusion that it's bull.'"
GET IN Well happy with that Thanks meliferra
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| People will have to find something else to moan about.
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| Quote ="Perry"People will have to find something else to moan about.'"
Some people on here will still not believe it unless they see the signed contract.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Some people on here will still not believe it unless they see the signed contract.'"
I view it as a real positive.
That alone is enough to ensure I take a load of flack from some quarters.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Some people on here will still not believe it unless they see the signed contract.'"
Some people on here will only believe it if they actually witnessed said contract being signed!
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| It's now just a matter of time before the 'Homeless in 2016' thread.
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| Quote ="Perry"I view it as a real positive.'"
Quote ="Perry"That alone is enough to ensure I take a load of flack from some quarters.'"
I actually view it as a positive.
What I don't believe is beneficial is the fact that the 2nd year option had to be renegotiated and the Landlord was always in the "box seat" in such negotiations as there was little alternative for the club to accept his terms. As such, the marketing budget that the RFL donated to the landlord in 2014 has now been replaced/underwritten by David Hughes, so as in the year just gone, the only revenue the club will receive in 2015 will be from the RFL/SKY allocation......which does beggar the question of what we'll do in 2016 when the central funding is less than 30% than we will receive this year (unless of course we are promoted )
As I have said to others, I was impressed with the Hive and its facilities. I believe they are perfect for the club that we have become and division we are now cemented in, but I suspect the RFL hierarchy will have sleepless nights should we ever look like winning the million pound game as the Hive is most assuredly not what Knock-Down Nigel et al see in their vision of a SUPER League.
Quote ="Perry"That alone is enough to ensure I take a load of flack from some quarters.'"
I still believe the blind devotion that certain fans have shown to the club after the absolute clusterfiicking mess that Hughes and his African Gimp made of a perfectly serviceable SL club is deserving of ridicule. Flack? Nah....it's not Flack. It's a healthy dose of realism, which some of you 40+ year old males need to have administered with your flue jabs every year. I suspect that there will be considerable less of you in attendance in 2015........but this will be spun as a positive by the remaining few......and Dr Gutterfax will be there with your annual inoculation of reality.
As I said at the start of this thread. The Hive weren't happy to carry on with the 2nd year option as was negotiated with Blake Solly and I stand by that assertion. The collective masturbation at the implication that I may have been wrong embarrasses a fair few posters on here.....and you are most definitely in that collective.
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| You also said, in your second post in this thread:
Quote ="gutterfax"Indeed I did.........it's a shame you choose to selectively quote though. What I actually said was that the RFL had bribed the hive by giving them a "marketing budget" as well as for th getting all the other income too. I claimed that it was a short term fix put into place to get the SL fixtures fulfilled for 2014......I have seen or heard nothing to prove me wrong.
[size=150=#FF0040The club is dead post this year[/size.......Hughes should hang his he's in shame at what he has done....and before anyone claims that Hughes has saved the club....all he's done is spend money in all the wrong areas and ignore advice from every quarter because "it was his club"! The game is bigger than our dying club and certainly bigger than an egotistical oil broker......it is a crying shame what has happened to the club in the last 7 years.......'"
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"You also said, in your second post in this thread:
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Indeed I did. I was maybe a tad over-zealous in my prediction for the demise of the club, but it would seem that Mr Hughes has decided to continue to bankroll the club indefinitely.
Unfortunately for the club and its supporters, this means 2nd tier League in a smaller venue against less fashionable teams, with less supporters in attendances and a snowballs chance in hell of either attracting new investment at the level required, nor sponsors of the caliber to lift the clubs profile.
This of course will be applauded by some as us "finding our level", but the applause will not be heard as it will be from regular fans that number in the low hundreds.
And whilst you're reaching for another box of Kleenex, I suggest you temper your unbridled joy at both a second tier existence with my being wrong as to the death of the club with a healthy dose of realism.
We are now a 2nd tier outfit that is 100% reliant on the benevolence of 1 man......nothing has changed other than the division we play in, our attractiveness to cash paying customers and our market value to sponsors. Victories over lesser teams will be hailed as proof that we are better off........
........yet I recall a season 10 years ago that saw us stick 70 on Wakey, Leigh and Widnes (well close) and make the play-offs....it was the season we nearly folded but one that ended with real hope for our future under a new owner, in a new ground with a new name and real prospects. We has a national brand as our shirt sponsor and the word "partner" in terms of an associated company didn't exist. We had close to 4,000 fans and "we were LONDON". Now we are a team watched by 40+ year old men.......akin to a sporting version of Train Spotting. RL is an acquired taste...we've all tried to get our friends to games over the last 30+ years and now all that's left is the bare bones......I won't be overly zealous this time, but I will say that whilst victories over Halifax and Hunslet will keep some happy, the "some" will be less than those who preferred to watch us play Wigan.....even if it was to get hammered....and gradually that number will reach the level attained by the skolars....a team that had less than 10% of our support back in 2005......
So grab your Kleenex and enjoy the moment. The truth is I was warning the club, its owners and its fans that this would happen since before I even attended a game and no matter if Hughes's guilt keeps us afloat for another 10 years or more, I was spot on.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I still believe the blind devotion that certain fans have shown to the club after the absolute clusterfiicking mess that Hughes and his African Gimp made of a perfectly serviceable SL club is deserving of ridicule. Flack? Nah....it's not Flack. It's a healthy dose of realism, which some of you 40+ year old males need to have administered with your flue jabs every year…. The collective masturbation at the implication that I may have been wrong embarrasses a fair few posters on here.....and you are most definitely in that collective.
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So I said "I view it as a real positive. That alone is enough to ensure I take a load of flack from some quarters." And you honestly think that justifies your response with it's thinly disguised expletives, graphic language, and patronising emotions?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Indeed I did. I was maybe a tad over-zealous in my prediction for the demise of the club, but it would seem that Mr Hughes has decided to continue to bankroll the club indefinitely.
Unfortunately for the club and its supporters, this means 2nd tier League in a smaller venue against less fashionable teams, with less supporters in attendances and a snowballs chance in hell of either attracting new investment at the level required, nor sponsors of the caliber to lift the clubs profile.
This of course will be applauded by some as us "finding our level", but the applause will not be heard as it will be from regular fans that number in the low hundreds.
And whilst you're reaching for another box of Kleenex, I suggest you temper your unbridled joy at both a second tier existence with my being wrong as to the death of the club with a healthy dose of realism.
We are now a 2nd tier outfit that is 100% reliant on the benevolence of 1 man......nothing has changed other than the division we play in, our attractiveness to cash paying customers and our market value to sponsors. Victories over lesser teams will be hailed as proof that we are better off........
........yet I recall a season 10 years ago that saw us stick 70 on Wakey, Leigh and Widnes (well close) and make the play-offs....it was the season we nearly folded but one that ended with real hope for our future under a new owner, in a new ground with a new name and real prospects. We has a national brand as our shirt sponsor and the word "partner" in terms of an associated company didn't exist. We had close to 4,000 fans and "we were LONDON". Now we are a team watched by 40+ year old men.......akin to a sporting version of Train Spotting. RL is an acquired taste...we've all tried to get our friends to games over the last 30+ years and now all that's left is the bare bones......I won't be overly zealous this time, but I will say that whilst victories over Halifax and Hunslet will keep some happy, the "some" will be less than those who preferred to watch us play Wigan.....even if it was to get hammered....and gradually that number will reach the level attained by the skolars....a team that had less than 10% of our support back in 2005......
So grab your Kleenex and enjoy the moment. The truth is I was warning the club, its owners and its fans that this would happen since before I even attended a game and no matter if Hughes's guilt keeps us afloat for another 10 years or more, I was spot on.'" No, you weren't "a tad over-zealous", you were plain wrong.
As for the rest of your blethering above, where is The Cranewife when we need her?
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| Quote ="Perry"And you honestly think that justifies your response with it's thinly disguised expletives, graphic language, and patronising emotions?'"
too ing right I bloody do
Did my reference to masturbation upset the puritan branch of the David Hughes fan club, of which you are no doubt chairperson? Maybe if you off and whine to the moderators some more they will ignore you again?
I often stand alone on here, confronted by a wall of bland acceptance that supposes to represent the true fans of the club, whilst the reality is there aren't very many fans left......they all got very fed up with watching Hughes et al destroy THEIR club and listening to a few sad s applauding him for doing it. Some say they no longer post here because of me and my incessant negativity, but the reality is they don't post here because they too have given up on this cripple of a club. What you and your bland on-line amigos fail to see is I still support the club with the same passion I have for over 10 years, but unlike you, I refuse to accept the bollox that Hughes is churning out as some sort of master pan for our future. He ed up, he knows he ed up, but so long as ing idiots like you continue to applaud, he'll continue to feel less guilty for ing up the club.
FWIW, I honestly believe that if those running the club showed 50% of the passion I have over the years then this conversation wouldn't be happening....we'd still be in SL, we'd be averaging more than 5k and we'd certainly not be playing out of a non-league soccer stadium come training facility. But you mistake this passion for negativity.
They say that unhappy customers complain by not coming back.................you look at the last few years figures and tell me what a wonderful ing job Hughes has done at the club.
Sorry if the above contains too much reality wrapped in expletives that are either disguised or not.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Blah, blah, swear, blah, patronise, blah, I'm so great, blah, you're an effing bleep for disagreeing with me, blah, blah'" I have never "applauded David Hughes" for his running of the club. I have never once approached a moderator about anyone or anything. But it seems you are so desperate to drive people off these forums that you are now prepared to tell lies about them.
Your last "dose of realism" was to tell us the club were homeless next year (the title of the thread gives it away) and someone who actually knows what's going on was able to tell us that you were wrong. You'd just made it up. And that's what really drives your anger. There are posters here who can tell us what's going on at the club now, whereas you can only tell us what was going on at the club ten years ago. You used to crow about having Gus's phone number, now you're reduced to making up stories about us being homeless. You're nothing more than yesterday's man crowing about how great he once was.
The true irony is, you're exactly like David Hughes. He's killing the club through arrogance, and you're killing these forums through arrogance. Two sides of the same coin.
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| Quote ="Perry"I have never "applauded David Hughes" for his running of the club. I have never once approached a moderator about anyone or anything. But it seems you are so desperate to drive people off these forums that you are now prepared to tell lies about them.
Your last "dose of realism" was to tell us the club were homeless next year (the title of the thread gives it away) and someone who actually knows what's going on was able to tell us that you were wrong. You'd just made it up. And that's what really drives your anger. There are posters here who can tell us what's going on at the club now, whereas you can only tell us what was going on at the club ten years ago. You used to crow about having Gus's phone number, now you're reduced to making up stories about us being homeless. You're nothing more than yesterday's man crowing about how great he once was.
The true irony is, you're exactly like David Hughes. He's killing the club through arrogance, and you're killing these forums through arrogance. Two sides of the same coin.'"
As I said a lot earlier in this thread, the title was a little ambiguous but the reality is that 2015 was renegotiated so I was correct. As for killing the forum.......if I were driving traffic away the sites owners would act......the reality is that we have shed posters because of Hughes idiotic running of the club.......but it's convienient to blame me so knock yourself out.....it patently helps you sleep better at night
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| Quote ="gutterfax"As I said a lot earlier in this thread, the title was a little ambiguous but the reality is that 2015 was renegotiated so I was correct. As for killing the forum.......if I were driving traffic away the sites owners would act......the reality is that we have shed posters because of Hughes idiotic running of the club.......but it's convienient to blame me so knock yourself out.....it patently helps you sleep better at night'"
An inability to realise and admit when you're wrong, another trait you share with Mr Hughes.
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| Quote ="Perry"An inability to realise and admit when you're wrong, another trait you share with Mr Hughes.'"
On the contrary. I freely admit it when I am wrong. As I have repeated, the essence of this thread was 100% accurate but the title a tad sensationalist. Your clinging to the hope that I was wrong like some half inflated liferaft shows how desperate you are. At the time posted this thread, the hive had told the club that the contract for 2015 was not going to be as agreed in 2013.....without Hughes stepping up we would have been homeless.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
The last championship side to defeat a SL one was HKR in 2006' challenge cup. They then got nilled in the next round'"
quick correction
The last Championship team to beat a SL team was Featherstone against castleford in 2012 Challenge cup.
They then went on to play Wigan and lost by 16 points where a superb performance from Gareth Hock was the difference.
also last season leigh pushed leeds close and would probably have beaten a lesser team
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also last season leigh pushed leeds close and would probably have beaten a lesser team'"
Indeed, Leigh were excellent that night - a win would not have flattered them!
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| One time a thread like this that was Not The Truth, would have been locked by the moderators, but no even today it allowed to continue?
There is no getting away from the fact that many loyal fans of Our Club from last season do not post any longer! I still visit the site daily, but just post when really relevant, the free enjoyable debate we used to have seems to have gone, it needs to be restored once again.
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| I agree,
Personally I'm tired of trying to unravel all the unsupported accusations and regardless whether the claims made are true or not, Broncos stay at the Hive for 2015 is no longer in doubt so it's time to move on.
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| Totally agree with you Meli and jay. Become quite dull now !!
Anyway. I see we have a friendly against skolars at the new river. Might be worth a look...
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