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| Quote ="Ronniequin"According to Der Fuehrer, the RFL has done all it wanted to do.
The convoluted 3x8 is a pathway to SL apparently.
Interestingly he quotes years of poor management for the current plight and a lack of direction. We would all agree with that. The final straw was the "stripping to the bare bones" strategy at the end of last season which somehow would make it attractive to a buyer, then not finding a buyer!'"
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| Quote ="jaybs""Der Fuehre" speaks! he has been quiet of late, all the problems with referee's, video referee's and falling attendances highlighted yesterday in the rugby media! he does tend to bury his head in the sand when bullets are flying. All the promise of building on the World Cup, then he lets Sally leave so easily, too much competition for him?
Of course he has bent over backwards? for one SL club, how many points will they be restored today?
Not defending the way things have gone with our club, but the whole game is flat! people have been fed with the greatest game in the world line for too long. I'm getting tired of the game I was brought up on from pre school days, sat on the wall at Knowsley Road. More and more mates are getting into Union these days, they feel they have taken all the good aspects our game once had and the sport looks more attractive and better entertainment, thanks Nigel!'" What an image that conjures up of Nige bent over backwards with his head in the sand. Too horrible to think about.
I'm probably influenced by our own club's current sad state, but SL to me has gone stale and ever more repetitive. Losing the only SL club in the capital hardly helps, does it?
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| So maybe the promotion relegation could be the injection it needs.
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| Quote ="Snoopy"Typo corrected'"
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| No word from Our Nige about Bradford, will RFL slip 6 points back on the the Bulls points and league listing and say nothing, nothing would surprise me, haha
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| Quote ="jaybs"the whole game is flat! people have been fed with the greatest game in the world line for too long. I'm getting tired of the game I was brought up on from pre school days, sat on the wall at Knowsley Road. More and more mates are getting into Union these days, they feel they have taken all the good aspects our game once had and the sport looks more attractive and better entertainment, thanks Nigel!'"
I agree League as a sport is poor. Witness the Magic Weekend which cannot attract as many punters as one game put on by Quins RU and Twickenham... kinda says it all.
The game has no grand vision and it is dying.
What League needs is visionaries and not the deluded nonsense we hear about it being the greatest game. If League dies in London then it becomes even more parochial...
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| There is nothing wrong with the game. Just that too few teams play it competitively in this country.
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| Quote ="Dally"There is nothing wrong with the game. Just that too few teams play it competitively in this country.'"
Yes I agree, the game itself is let down by the people that run it, they seem to have very low ambitions and as I have said before would struggle to run a pub darts league down south.
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| Quote ="Simon M"I agree League as a sport is poor. Witness the Magic Weekend which cannot attract as many punters as one game put on by Quins RU and Twickenham... kinda says it all.
The game has no grand vision and it is dying.
What League needs is visionaries and not the deluded nonsense we hear about it being the greatest game. If League dies in London then it becomes even more parochial...'"
Ultimately I think if people want the game to be confined to the north, that's their choice. Ultimately, you will simply see a continual drift of the best players either to the NRL and rugby union in order to make the money and get the recognition they simply can't get from a sport that cannot generate sufficient income to compete because of its geographical limitations and complete absence of vision
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| Talking to many friends in the North, they are now going to less games, being selective, party because of ticket/admission prices, but nearly all of them agree that rugby league should accept it is just a small time Northern sport and that is how they should go, even if it means going back to semi-pro once more. Personally I find that really disappointing. The NRL seems to be going further away from us as a sport, France is now weak as a national side, we have gone backwards.
Note still no announcement about the Bulls, and the meeting was Wednesday, there seems to be a complete media black out? wonder why?
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| Quote ="jaybs"Note still no announcement about the Bulls, and the meeting was Wednesday, there seems to be a complete media black out? wonder why?'" Perhaps because the independent panel who are considering the issue (NOT the RFL) have not yet reached a conclusion?
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| No media blackout. It's been announced in the press and on twitter by the RFL that the panel have asked the Bulls to provide more evidence to back up their claim.
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| Back to the point of the thread. Whilst there is much to criticise about the RFL, in particular their seeming desire to keep league a small time parochial regional sport, a bit like curling in Scotland, nevertheless they must be frustrated with how the Broncos management have mishandled the club. Stories regularly appear about how sound advice has been ignored or rejected. I strongly suspect Wood has given up and focuses his energies on Bradford who were a strong club 20 years ago, a long time
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| Quote ="Ronniequin" I strongly suspect Wood has given up and focuses his energies on Bradford who were a strong club 20 years ago, a long time'"
Big Nigel, focusing energies, well that is a joke! falling attendances, referee's constant complaints the list could go on and on, plus we wait to see how he changes the World Game in his new role, and for me Blake Solly will only be a voice piece! for Nige with no power.
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| Quote ="Ronniequin"According to Der Fuehrer, the RFL has done all it can for the Broncos. The convoluted 3x8 is a pathway to SL apparently.
Interestingly he quotes years of poor management for the current plight and a lack of direction. We would all agree with that. The final straw was the "stripping to the bare bones" strategy at the end of last season which somehow would make it attractive to a buyer, then not finding a buyer!'"
I'd agree that we have been appallingly run, and didn't deserve to be propped up.
But what annoys me is that Nigel keeps pretending that they did so much for us. As far as I can tell the assistance didn't go much beyond a few kind words.
If he'd said "We didn't help because the club was being mismanaged" that's fair enough. But he keeps peddling the myth of providing support, and it's just BS.
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| When we went bust mid season the RFL did a lot behind the scenes that has never become public. I doubt we would have reformed without this. I have no inside knowledge of what happened last winter but won't be surprised if RFL assistance went way beyond what is public knowledge. Discretion would suit both sides if it did.
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| Bradford appeal turned down:
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/27705329[/url
The basis of their case has always seemed to be 'Life is tough give us a break guys!' Not good enough for a legal challenge.
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| I thought the RFL were funding our marketing now. Do they do that for any other clubs ? They also turn a blind eye to us no longer meeting commitments of our licence application.
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| Licence conditions are history for everybody. It is clear the current regime have all but given up. Should the fans too? No new players, no coaching support for Grima. It's pretty grim!
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| Quote ="Ronniequin"Licence conditions are history for everybody. It is clear the current regime have all but given up. Should the fans too? No new players, no coaching support for Grima. It's pretty grim!'"
You think you have been badly done to??
Under the Franchise system we had to tick so many boxes it felt like doing our GCSEs all over again yet SL clubs broke the rules and yet stayed in SL like you, Bradford and Wakefield all going bust!
Hey ho welcome to our world, it aint all bad some good rugby at times and true RL fans but be prepared for low crowds, oh you already have them so you will fit in!
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"You think you have been badly done to??
Under the Franchise system we had to tick so many boxes it felt like doing our GCSEs all over again yet SL clubs broke the rules and yet stayed in SL like you, Bradford and Wakefield all going bust!
Hey ho welcome to our world, it aint all bad some good rugby at times and true RL fans but be prepared for low crowds, oh you already have them so you will fit in!'"
No one cares about your victim mentality on these boards.
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| Quote ="tim"d040.gif
No one cares about your victim mentality on these boards.'"
Says it all really, thing is you will soon experience this yourselves so touché pal
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"You think you have been badly done to??
Under the Franchise system we had to tick so many boxes it felt like doing our GCSEs all over again yet SL clubs broke the rules and yet stayed in SL like you, Bradford and Wakefield all going bust!
Hey ho welcome to our world, it aint all bad some good rugby at times and true RL fans but be prepared for low crowds, oh you already have them so you will fit in!'"
To be honest Fax we all know why licencing was brought in, it had nothing to do with the reasons given, and it definitely had nothing to do with the likes of yourselves or us.
Wigan nearly went down and the 'big four' panicked and brought in a system to keep them safe no matter what. The fact that one of those 'big four' have since imploded just underlines what a mockery it always was.
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| Quote ="Perry"To be honest Fax we all know why licencing was brought in, it had nothing to do with the reasons given, and it definitely had nothing to do with the likes of yourselves or us.
Wigan nearly went down and the 'big four' panicked and brought in a system to keep them safe no matter what. The fact that one of those 'big four' have since imploded just underlines what a mockery it always was.'"
I must admit I've always been of the same view.
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| Quote ="Perry"To be honest Fax we all know why licencing was brought in, it had nothing to do with the reasons given, and it definitely had nothing to do with the likes of yourselves or us.
Wigan nearly went down and the 'big four' panicked and brought in a system to keep them safe no matter what. The fact that one of those 'big four' have since imploded just underlines what a mockery it always was.'"
Maybe but the biggest issue with the Franchise system was that it was open to abuse by interpretation by a very manipulative and corrupt RFL who changed the rules to suit SL clubs yet made those outside SL stick to their 'licence box tick exercise' rigidly and all this was done by almost secret ballot so nobody saw the true submissions by the Championship clubs so nobody would ever know whose did tick all the boxes or not.
That is my biggest issue with the RFL they are a closed shop and have total control, under the Franchise system the SL clubs barked to the RFL's tune as they dare not upset them so as to stay in SL and those outside SL had to do the same to stand any chance of ever getting in to SL, which was slim. Nigel Wood has as much power as Putin has in Russia and is probably as corrupt in most peoples eyes yet who will ever get him out???
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