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| Quote ="jbuzza"I assumed so but it does show what is lacking at the Broncos (and perhaps RL in general). LW have a stong club membership with all levels of play from minis up fully integrated and a long standing community presence. That takes a lot of effort to achieve but is done strategically and by involving the membership and particularly volunteers in all aspects of the club.'"
It's a demographic issue as well. A lot of RU supporters turn their noses up at RL and vice versa. Also RU is played in the private schools in London, RL isn't. Therefore the money's more likely to stay with RU.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I assumed so but it does show what is lacking at the Broncos (and perhaps RL in general). LW have a stong club membership with all levels of play from minis up fully integrated and a long standing community presence. That takes a lot of effort to achieve but is done strategically and by involving the membership and particularly volunteers in all aspects of the club.'"
Hughes / Loubster went out of their way to actually undermine LB members, many of whom would have gladly volunteered at the club.
Would any other 'professional ' rugby club ( or any sports club for that matter) do anything like this?
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| I was sat in section 125 in first half around 140 in there. Sections 122/123/124 at least as busy, 121 and 126 had around 50 in each
Around 75 over far side
Stick by my number of around 700.
I counted heads in sections I sat in so 140 in sect 125 and 50 in 126 in second half 75 in lounge area not too far off
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| Quote ="The Curtism"It's a demographic issue as well. A lot of RU supporters turn their noses up at RL and vice versa. Also RU is played in the private schools in London, RL isn't. Therefore the money's more likely to stay with RU.'"
London Welsh chairman Danny Griffiths used to play RL apparently including Fulham but not sure it was first team.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"I was sat in section 125 in first half around 140 in there. Sections 122/123/124 at least as busy, 121 and 126 had around 50 in each
Around 75 over far side
Stick by my number of around 700.
I counted heads in sections I sat in so 140 in sect 125 and 50 in 126 in second half 75 in lounge area not too far off'"
500 or 700 either way its poor.
We are playing a side we are likely to meet in the playoffs, and a game which if we had won, would probably have us finishing 3rd or 4th in the table.
Considering this, you would expect that the gate would at least be higher than our season opener vs Batley on 5th Feb, as unlike last season we are a winning team heading for the playoffs, and even though fev will be a game too far, every chance of making the final....
So was our gate better than Batley at the beginning of the season, this would be a sign the on field performances are bring fans back
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| Not saying if it's a good or a bad crowd. Just saying what it was by my count.
Reality is we are a 2nd tier club, playing against 2nd tier opposition.
Away support on Sunday was 1 coach plus probably a few car travellers, so maybe 100 is at best
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Not saying if it's a good or a bad crowd. Just saying what it was by my count.
Reality is we are a 2nd tier club, playing against 2nd tier opposition.
Away support on Sunday was 1 coach plus probably a few car travellers, so maybe 100 is at best'"
Hughes has no idea how to build a crowd. Crowds have continually slid downwards under his watch.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Hughes has no idea how to build a crowd. Crowds have continually slid downwards under his watch.'"
True, but without Hughes the club would not exist.
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| As Curtism says like it or not.
700 fans and a Club
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No club and 0 fans
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Not saying if it's a good or a bad crowd. Just saying what it was by my count.
Reality is we are a 2nd tier club, playing against 2nd tier opposition.
Away support on Sunday was 1 coach plus probably a few car travellers, so maybe 100 is at best'"
Then why move to a SL stadium which we can't use for large parts of the season, which has a capacity over 12 times what our attendance is?
Maybe we should look to be in a much smaller stadium then, which costs a lot less, allowing us to have a better team maybe?
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| Quote ="northernbloke"As Curtism says like it or not.
700 fans and a Club
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No club and 0 fans'"
We don't know if those are, in reality, the only options. But if they are, Hughes will continue to bring those two things closer and closer together.
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| Crashmon not got a clue, I don't run the club, maybe it's something to do with future ambitions.
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| J buzza. Well let's enjoy the ride while we can
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Crashmon not got a clue, I don't run the club, maybe it's something to do with future ambitions.'"
Probably an attempt to secure more grading points before understanding how they would be awarded. The criteria award 3 points for the stadium. Cherry Red should secure the 1.5 up for grabs for facilities which e.g. Trailfinders wouldn't have without some investment. However, not sure how they grade use for part of the season only so some points may be lost.
Anything we gained on facilities are likely to be lost on utilisation where we will struggle to acheive more than about 0.1 of the 1 point available since we are rattling around in a 9,200 capacity ground. We wouldn't have got the 0.25 point for prime tenancy anywhere but Cherry Red should give the 0.125 available for big screen. There is also 0.125 points available for LEDs but these need to be on 3 sides.
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| I can't do anything about it, so like I say I will turn up and enjoy the rugby, wherever it is.
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| Few things to cover off here.
Firstly. If there were 700 there and not my guesstimate of 500, why not announce the figures? It's not like IMG aren't aware of how few people bother.
Secondly, whilst it would seem that we are at least on par if not a tad better than 2022 attendance wise, it does seem that the larger gates at Ebbsfleet and the season opener are the only highlights.
As for Hughes and the continued demise of the club as a viable option for casual sports fans, the question must be asked AGAIN. why it is that we have failed to engage with the London sporting public who do seem to be willing to attend event games in huge numbers.
Then there are the CHAMPION WOMENS SIDE...who as far as I can see got a "well done" but not much else.
Hoists defeated the Warriors at rh weekend....any reason they couldn't have played prior to the Bulls game?
In 8 weeks or so the 2024 fixtures will be released.....and as I've said every year since 2002, plans should be put in place to leverage a theme for every game, but instead we will get new pricing with gold lounge offers, all of which will be obsolete by July when there'll be ticket bundles galore....
......and lastly. To those who can say "it's out of our control.....what can we do"?.......I'd say close to 4,000 fans have already done something under the current ownership....they've decided to go somewhere else!
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| Hoists game was a triple header, London origin, Harry jep trophy and SCL final.
As for 700, only giving you my thoughts on actual counting heads from actually being at the game.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Hoists game was a triple header, London origin, Harry jep trophy and SCL final.
As for 700, only giving you my thoughts on actual counting heads from actually being at the game.'"
The report of the game has said attendance was 1158. It’s either true or not but putting to one side the oddity of playing in a ground where 3 sides are closed, it felt pretty lively and a decent atmosphere.
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| Quote ="BigTime"The report of the game has said attendance was 1158. It’s either true or not but putting to one side the oddity of playing in a ground where 3 sides are closed, it felt pretty lively and a decent atmosphere.'"
Depends if they include ST holders or those who purchased the Tickets bundle who did not come to the game, but are still counted as they bought a ticket in advance
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| Quote ="crashmon"Depends if they include ST holders or those who purchased the Tickets bundle who did not come to the game, but are still counted as they bought a ticket in advance'"
Thought there were only discount offering memberships this season so doubt those could be counted. Bundles included tickets for the game though so suspect they would be counted. Crowd was certainly more than 500. The 700 estimate feels about right to me but could have been more.
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| There were a fair few Bradford fans there. Quite a few mixed in with Broncos fans in the more central blocks. It seemed quite busy but everyone jammed into that one stand. My wife spotted a couple of characters we hadn't seen since Ealing days so maybe a few extra did turn out?
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| Quote ="Hockley Bronco"There were a fair few Bradford fans there. Quite a few mixed in with Broncos fans in the more central blocks. It seemed quite busy but everyone jammed into that one stand. My wife spotted a couple of characters we hadn't seen since Ealing days so maybe a few extra did turn out?'"
Yes it was busy I think 700/800 plus sounds right. I think crash may be right that they are adding in STs who didn’t turn up etc but bottom line for where we are, a badly supported team rattling around an old barn with a chaotic plan ( no plan) for growing attendances that was about as good as it gets. Focus on 1st home game of next season and see if we can drum up interest but, sadly, same problems may well occur.
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| Attendance probably included stewards, stadium staff, the teams, coaching staff, ball kids and the owners of the flats that overlook the pitch.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"Attendance probably included stewards, stadium staff, the teams, coaching staff, ball kids and the owners of the flats that overlook the pitch.'"
Not forgetting BT's Turkish friends that hadn't decided the kebab shop at Tooting Bec was a better option.
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