If Luke Dorn is so bad how come he finished sixth in the list for try assists in SL this season? Orr finished top. Dorn is a finisher, put him through a gap or a ball through to chase and he will score more tries. We have not had the offloads this season to create enough chances for him and as regards the kicking. Salford tried to play him as a playmaker, as Wigan did with Moran, they are finishers pure and simple. It is one of the reasons that our wingers haven't scored many, not many have been created for them by the centres or from kicks. Without Howell we have been toothless.

There is a lot of thinking to be done before next season.

Tony Rea found a way of integrating Dorn into a very exciting and productive back line.

Yes, he had a second stand-off playing at full-back. Dorn's very left-sided, McLinden was very right-sided, which is why McLinden-Dorn-Leuluai worked.

I like Dorn, he creates tries, he scores tries - though he is a bit of a flat-track bully.

In the absence of anyone new arriving, I would like to see Gale-Dorn-Orr together with Dorn or Gale at 1. Dorn needs to be hidden in defence and playing full-back would take him out of the defensive line. Then again, Gale looks like he would go better at 1 and is probably braver under the ball and a better kick returner.

Thing is McLinden was the only one out of the three who could control a game, take him away and the other two always looked a bit ordinary.

Marty could see the bigger picture, the other two were individuals who played in a team, and were given licence to have that individual role, because it worked for the team. Wigan and New Zealand have worked him out that you can't make him play like a regimented traditional 7 and Wigan actually use him to good effect. Dorn looked poor at Salford as he was reigned in, scored alot of tries at Cas, but still looked a little out of sorts, pretty similar to us last season, bag full of tries, but when we needed and experienced head, he didn't put his hand up.

So we try and move heaven and earth to lure Marty back? I'd love to see him playing for us again!

Quote ="Rob from Erith"So we try and move heaven and earth to lure Marty back? I'd love to see him playing for us again!'" www.qru.com.au/library/reds_play ... tion/40810 unfortunately it looks like he has been a real success in the Super 14.

Quote ="Rob from Erith"So we try and move heaven and earth to lure Marty back? I'd love to see him playing for us again!'" www.qru.com.au/library/reds_play ... tion/40810 unfortunately it looks like he has been a real success in the Super 14.

although not as good as [url=http://www.brumbies.com.au/act.rugby/page/53152Tyrone[/url it would appear.

This does not surprise me, he was a quality player not only with ball in hand but in his ability to read the game, pure class.

One player who should not have got away.

Hmmm he was defensively suspect at times, and his form dipped in the latter stages of his time with us.

I don't think he would like the price off a pint down in London

If you guys sign him, just pay his wages in beer and he will be more than happy!!!

What about a 1 year deal for [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/6223622/Stanley-Gene-to-be-offered-non-playing-role-at-Hull-KR.htmlthis guy[/url?

Yeah, and we could get Boris to officially give him his freedom pass1

I think he had a fall out NBQ as the pair never seemd to talk, pass or anything after about the first third of their last season together. Smith's end with the club was all rather odd.

But like Zeb he gave it everything, more than could be said fo some in the last three months.

sorry, talk me through this one. where has this come from. interesting if true, as will be a good signing for you, but seems to be getting himself sorted out and established at the wire now.

It's just speculation, we need a centre/standoff to add some class to our back line, it looks like Wire need to make some space next season to accomodate their signings and Bridge is one of those who looks out of place.

From that Hull list I'd have Thackery, Tony & Thorman.

Tony is always injured and Thorman is cack, I'm not sure either of them offer progression, but then the same could probably be said of Esders, Golden and James.

Disagree with Golden, been very solid for us this year and at least he tries.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 273036.stm We have been linked with Chris Feather for quite some time, just thought I'd put it on everyones radar. He's one we could end up with because he is available and large, though not sure if I'd want him unless we fail to secure another sizeable body to add to our starting pack.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 273036.stm We have been linked with Chris Feather for quite some time, just thought I'd put it on everyones radar. He's one we could end up with because he is available and large, though not sure if I'd want him unless we fail to secure another sizeable body to add to our starting pack.

He is solid, but another solid second-row isn't exactly what we're missing.

Another centre who couldn't beat his man.

Feather appears to fit the McDermott mould. Utility forward who could fill in a centre should we be short!!!!

Our rugby should be exciting next year

I'd much prefer Ryan Boyle whose release surprises me a lot.

I was interested as well, but hasn't played much. He is at 21 a strange release for Cas, and my instinct is he will be stepping up, not moving sideways.

Still if he is looking for development and game time then a move south and to train under the tutolege of a former Great Britain prop may be just the ticket.

I'm interested.