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| Quote ="gutterfax"www.wasps.co.uk/news/article/2014/10/08/the-ricoh-arena-q-as
Interesting article'" Very!!! Sounds similar to our plight doesn't it.
Over the last ten years we have made no secret of our determination to find a permanent home we can call our own. It’s a move we believe is essential to guarantee the long-term success of the Club, both on and off the pitch.
Unfortunately attendances at Adams Park have not been as high as we would have wished, or as we need, to survive as a business in the professional era.
Why can’t we stay at Adams Park?
We run a high risk of going bust. It’s as simple as that.
Adams Park was always intended as a short-term solution. The Club doesn’t make enough money in High Wycombe for it to be sustainable - for every £1 spent by supporters at Adams Park the Club gets 15p.
Over the past 18 months our owner has absorbed almost £10million of the Club’s losses. We are losing approximately £3 million every year. We cannot continue in that vein if we want our Club to survive and succeed.
Staying where we are would mean continuing to lose £3 million a year while awaiting planning permission elsewhere. The green field sites we have explored have a low chance of success. On average, securing planning consent, building new stadiums and the infrastructure they require, takes 10 years to come to fruition.
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Very!!! Sounds similar to our plight doesn't it.
Over the last ten years we have made no secret of our determination to find a permanent home we can call our own. It’s a move we believe is essential to guarantee the long-term success of the Club, both on and off the pitch.
Unfortunately attendances at Adams Park have not been as high as we would have wished, or as we need, to survive as a business in the professional era.
Why can’t we stay at Adams Park?
We run a high risk of going bust. It’s as simple as that.
Adams Park was always intended as a short-term solution. The Club doesn’t make enough money in High Wycombe for it to be sustainable - for every £1 spent by supporters at Adams Park the Club gets 15p.
Over the past 18 months our owner has absorbed almost £10million of the Club’s losses. We are losing approximately £3 million every year. We cannot continue in that vein if we want our Club to survive and succeed.
Staying where we are would mean continuing to lose £3 million a year while awaiting planning permission elsewhere. The green field sites we have explored have a low chance of success. On average, securing planning consent, building new stadiums and the infrastructure they require, takes 10 years to come to fruition.'"
....very open statement. Compare it to the ramblings of the cricket feilding maestro and part time CEO who applauded his own efforts in the same area of business
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| as a bloke that came to one game this season I never classed you as part of us anyhow mate.
And why could Lenehgan not own us
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Very!!! Sounds similar to our plight doesn't it.
Over the last ten years we have made no secret of our determination to find a permanent home we can call our own. It’s a move we believe is essential to guarantee the long-term success of the Club, both on and off the pitch.
Unfortunately attendances at Adams Park have not been as high as we would have wished, or as we need, to survive as a business in the professional era.
Why can’t we stay at Adams Park?
We run a high risk of going bust. It’s as simple as that.
Adams Park was always intended as a short-term solution. The Club doesn’t make enough money in High Wycombe for it to be sustainable - for every £1 spent by supporters at Adams Park the Club gets 15p.
Over the past 18 months our owner has absorbed almost £10million of the Club’s losses. We are losing approximately £3 million every year. We cannot continue in that vein if we want our Club to survive and succeed.
Staying where we are would mean continuing to lose £3 million a year while awaiting planning permission elsewhere. The green field sites we have explored have a low chance of success. On average, securing planning consent, building new stadiums and the infrastructure they require, takes 10 years to come to fruition.'"
Be interesting to see the support we get in Coventry ... Over 2.800 supporters have signed a petition saying they will not travel the 3/4 hours !!!
I wasn't one ... I'll check it out first !!
Supporting both wasps and London for over 30 years has had me travelling all over the place !!!!
But it's all good.... Though how I miss wasps at Sudbury and Fulham rl at craven cottage !!!
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"
And why could Lenehgan not own us'"
Because the regulations sate that you can't own two clubs (conflict of interest) - they had to bend the rules for a bit as no-one was interested in buying his stake (wonder why? Shut up, Gutters!) Incidentally, the row over the Wasps move is deepening, with Worcester (currently spending a year visiting the poor relations before swapping with London Welsh) now asking questions about development areas, plus Coventry RFC aren't happy either - it's been a lead story on 'Midlands Today' all week.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"as a bloke that came to one game this season I never classed you as part of us anyhow '"
Oooooooh.....the clique has an inner-clique now does it? I reckon i clocked up more miles to get to games this hear than you have.......please let me one of the gang!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"My true colours
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Being patronising again. Will you ever be able to post without making it personal?
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"... the difference is they played rugby league, not playing at all would have achieved what for players confidence levels?'"
It wouldn't have achieved anything for their confidence levels, but would have enabled gutterfax to crow about how he was right, hence why he spends his entire time on here attacking anyone who continues to attend matches, or says anything remotely positive.
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| Perry I know, but it's fun winding him up and seeing what drivel, insults, personal attacks, and random numbers he can come up with.
It's ok he laid his stall out here in thinking we should have folded!
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| Quote ="Perry"Being patronising again. Will you ever be able to post without making it personal?'"
After my support for the team is questioned I am the one making it personal? lol......you are a tad precious aren't you......loops, there I go again
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Perry I know, but it's fun winding him up and seeing what drivel, insults, personal attacks, and random numbers he can come up with.
It's ok he laid his stall out here in thinking we should have folded!'"
We are as good as gone in 2016......you're just to stupid to do the maths. Oops....another one
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| Any chance you guys can either set up dedicated threads the rest of us can ignore or take to using the PM system to wind each other up etc. A quick look at how few active posters we have these days suggests it might be widely appreciated.
A message board loses it's value when you have to wade through pages of people winding each other up to get at the facts
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Any chance you guys can either set up dedicated threads the rest of us can ignore or take to using the PM system to wind each other up etc. A quick look at how few active posters we have these days suggests it might be widely appreciated.
A message board loses it's value when you have to wade through pages of people winding each other up to get at the facts'"
A quick glance as to has just freely admitted to trying to wind me up will point you towards the cause. This thread is about our home and my posts in it are about our home........
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| As much as Id rather not discuss rah rah at all ever I don't see why we're comparing our situation to High Wycombe London Coventry W*sps.
Can you imagine the uproar if we were still in SL and moved to Sheffield while the Eagles were still there?!? RL fans would spontaneously combust all over the place, it's the dumbest thing ever.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"As much as Id rather not discuss rah rah at all ever I don't see why we're comparing our situation to High Wycombe London Coventry W*sps.
Can you imagine the uproar if we were still in SL and moved to Sheffield while the Eagles were still there?!? RL fans would spontaneously combust all over the place, it's the dumbest thing ever.'"
Quite possibly......much better to get moved along every couple of years, dropping fans by the bucketload and becoming even more Dependant on hughes......there's a much more sensible plan
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| When I think I've got problems in my life, I just read a post by Garbagefacts, it helps me put things in perspective and everything is hunky-dory again!!
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| Quote ="eastman"When I think I've got problems in my life, I just read a post by Garbagefacts, it helps me put things in perspective and everything is hunky-dory again!!'"
Simple cure for a simple person. you're welcome
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"As much as Id rather not discuss rah rah at all ever I don't see why we're comparing our situation to High Wycombe London Coventry W*sps.
Can you imagine the uproar if we were still in SL and moved to Sheffield while the Eagles were still there?!? RL fans would spontaneously combust all over the place, it's the dumbest thing ever.'"
To be fair, a number of RU fans are combusting over it.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Any chance you guys can either set up dedicated threads the rest of us can ignore or take to using the PM system to wind each other up etc. A quick look at how few active posters we have these days suggests it might be widely appreciated.
A message board loses it's value when you have to wade through pages of people winding each other up to get at the facts'"
Sorry Halfdan, I just get fed up with the name calling because people offer a different opinion. I don't particularly want to wind anyone up, via posting or PM, but I'd love a message board where different opinions prompt a debate, not a barrage of personal insults. I can dream I guess...
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| Quote ="Perry"Sorry Halfdan, I just get fed up with the name calling because people offer a different opinion. I don't particularly want to wind anyone up, via posting or PM, but I'd love a message board where different opinions prompt a debate, not a barrage of personal insults. I can dream I guess...'"
There's a perfectly good ignore function butsome but some just prefer to bitch.
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| i am with you Perry!
Back on thread, taking a LONDON team 100 miles up the road, irrelevant of train price means that team is no longer a LONDON team, so the Wasps plan will result in a team that owns its own stadium with a new set of fans and very few of the existing ones! If that was ever the plan for London Broncos then fine, let them go I doubt any fans would follow we struggle enough with 10 miles across London.
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| The IL question was Rhetorical by the way! We are all fully aware of why he had to give up his ownership.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"There's a perfectly good ignore function butsome but some just prefer to bitch.'"
It's difficult to follow half a conversation when one person involved is on ignore. Easier just to look to see if there is anything worth reading and how much is a regurgitation.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"There's a perfectly good ignore function butsome but some just prefer to bitch.'"
I don't want to ignore any of the posters involved as all are usually well worth reading. I just don't want to plod through pages of the sort of stuff that preceded my comment to find the good stuff. The falling number of active accounts suggests I'm not alone.
We didn't go to Gillingham as David told the RFL he would not fund the club if it left London. As long as he funds the club we will be in London. Personally I'm a believer clubs shouldn't be allowed to relocate ludicrous distances, they should find their level or fail. Odd perhaps for someone who started out watching Prescot at the end of their tour of London and the north west.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"i am with you Perry!
Back on thread, taking a LONDON team 100 miles up the road, irrelevant of train price means that team is no longer a LONDON team, so the Wasps plan will result in a team that owns its own stadium with a new set of fans and very few of the existing ones! If that was ever the plan for London Broncos then fine, let them go I doubt any fans would follow we struggle enough with 10 miles across London.'"
1200 average will be halved again next year.......losing 600 fans but gaining somewhere to call home would be better for the club in the long run.
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