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| Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"As to leaving the city, Saracens are moving back this year...'"
Yes, and I f**king hate them for it! Bee Army!! Bee Army!!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Stevo says the rent being asked for was astro.....I say 10% is the maximum they would have dared ask fo unless of course they are happy to lose the 200k a year.....this decision has very little to do with any rent increase......
BTW....5,000 fans this year instead of 3,000 would have generated 520k in revenue......sorry....EXTRA revenue. The rent increase, or should I say, the supposed rent increase wouldn't have mattered.....'"
Do you seriously think that Quins need the money so desperately? when we first returned they have done, perhaps it is all too much hassle for them, no one really knows. But as Dan Stains was God says you can't blame DH whatever the reason if he can find a better deal. We can go on and on and usually we do here but until the facts are known everything on each side is speculation.
Just feel we should all stand together with a campaign LONDON MUST STAY LONDON! it would be great to see us all put our energies together - no way can the club now that there has been so much media coverage wait until the next home game.
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| Well I just read from Ian Ramsdale he understands we are most likely to remain at The Stoop for two more years, can the club now confirm?
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| Quote ="jaybs"Well I just read from Ian Ramsdale he understands we are most likely to remain at The Stoop for two more years, can the club now confirm?'"
Brilliant if true. Must have been some poker game with Quins, now to be called the Gillingham bluff. Still after all this it leaves a nasty taste and we are last to know.
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| Indeed great news if it comes to fruition.
Plenty of things to sort in the meantime but its a good starting point.
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| BBC website quotes Hughes as saying it's most likely the club will stay at the stoop for the next two years.
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| Quote ="nadera78"BBC website quotes Hughes as saying it's most likely the club will stay at the stoop for the next two years.'"
and there is a 4 minute interview with him on the same site!
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| Quote ="poplar panther" Still after all this it leaves a nasty taste and we are last to know.'"
What was he supposed to do, ring us all up and tell us not to worry this was all just a bluff? I know we are few and far between, but........
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| Impending decision sounds good and the short radio interview is encouraging........I think I am probably more annoyed now at being sold a dummy by that buffoon Stevo!!
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| Pity glumfox will have gone to his den for the night.
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| Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"As to leaving the city, Saracens are moving back this year...'" I grant you Saracens are moving back, even if the timing wasn't of their choosing.
Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"...and chances are London Welsh will next year.'" Yeah, I'd wait and see on that. Has crash-and-burn written all over it.
Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"All four clubs who play first team games outside London still have their bases inside London with training facilities, lower grade/amateur teams and clubhouses in the city.'" Now I could get all nit-picky and point out that Saracens admin and training base is in St Albans. But even where clubs do have some presence in London, how many people passing through the turnstiles know or care? Not many I'd bet.
Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"Hammersmith Hills Hoists, the newly crowned Southern Premier winners, play out of Wasps ground in Ealing.'" Now slightly off-topic here but you can answer a question for me. I was under the impression that around 1995 all the clubs split into a professional and amateur arms, which is how there is still a London Scottish in the lower leagues even though the pro London Scottish went bust. Doesn't that mean the Wasps based in Ealing are legally a separate entity to London Wasps?
Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"If we move to Gillingham, I suspect no trace of our club will be left.'" Back on topic, yes you're right we won't leave much behind. But how much trace is there in Charlton? Or Brentford? And more to the point, does it matter?
There are RU clubs who have built up reasonable gates playing away from their traditional home, and as I said above, I doubt those supporters are aware of where the admin and training facilities are. This seems a more successful model than the 'move and see what happens' approach that the Broncos have followed to date.
Please note I'm not suddenly in favour of Gillingham, I'm just not implacably opposed to being outside the M25.
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| cant be true, it was in the times sports pages today about TR and mentioned the club going to Gillingham as well, dont ya just love a good rumour
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| BBC Sports site reporting David Hughes as saying
"It's a very delicate question. We feel obliged to look around at where we can play and there are not many options.
"We've an option at the Stoop for two more years and it's highly likely we'll declare that."
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| Quote ="Perry"Now I could get all nit-picky and point out that Saracens admin and training base is in St Albans. But even where clubs do have some presence in London, how many people passing through the turnstiles know or care? Not many I'd bet.
Now slightly off-topic here but you can answer a question for me. I was under the impression that around 1995 all the clubs split into a professional and amateur arms, which is how there is still a London Scottish in the lower leagues even though the pro London Scottish went bust. Doesn't that mean the Wasps based in Ealing are legally a separate entity to London Wasps?'"
I was under the impression Cockfosters was still used by Saracens. Presumably St Albans will no longer be used once they are at our old stadium.
I have no idea what their fans think as I don't go to union matches, but having a base still in London will surely keep their profile up by retaining their traditional membership. I think it is safe to say all of London Welsh's activities bar first team fixtures will take place at Old Deer Park this year.
I can only guess on your question, but I would be surprised if there was not a legal separation. Both Skolars and Hemel do it (possibly because of the tax breaks community clubs get). Both London Scottish and Richmond went bust, but survived in some format. I believe London Scottish are back in the second division now, presumably making them semi-pro. Richmond I think are one level below. I've been to Wasps' club this year a couple of times (for league) and there doesn't appear to be that much of a split in that the pros train there and all their memorabilia and cups etc are on display there.
All off topic of course, except to say that there is importance in setting down roots and engaging with a community, something our club has always failed to do.
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Quote ="zenon"BBC Sports site reporting David Hughes as saying
"It's a very delicate question. We feel obliged to look around at where we can play and there are not many options.
"We've an option at the Stoop for two more years and it's highly likely we'll declare that."'"
From the horse's mouth. OK, Bronco's mouth. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19344240
Well done to Ian Ramsdale for bringing some facts in to counter all the ludicrous speculation. Thanks Rammo.
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Quote ="zenon"BBC Sports site reporting David Hughes as saying
"It's a very delicate question. We feel obliged to look around at where we can play and there are not many options.
"We've an option at the Stoop for two more years and it's highly likely we'll declare that."'"
From the horse's mouth. OK, Bronco's mouth. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19344240
Well done to Ian Ramsdale for bringing some facts in to counter all the ludicrous speculation. Thanks Rammo.
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| Stevo is a chopper!!
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| Dear me, who needs 'Eastenders' and 'Emmerdale' when there's us and Bradford!
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| Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"...there is importance in setting down roots and engaging with a community, something our club has always failed to do.'"
Quite.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Well done to Ian Ramsdale for bringing some facts in to counter all the ludicrous speculation. Thanks Rammo.
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Fully Agree! Ian is dedicated to the club and rugby league! well done.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Pity glumfox will have gone to his den for the night.'"
sleep?????NEVER
Great news if it pans out that we stay at the stoop...........seriously though, as Moe has said, time to stop ing around with bring a mate schemes and spend some money on the M word.....
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| Quote ="jaybs"Do you seriously think that Quins need the money so desperately? '"
Have been told that Quins RU have "structural debt" of £25 - 30 million, so additional revenues from whatever source would be most welcome.
Understand that they got themselves a "music licence" in the hope of working with promoters to put music events on at the Stoop (using the whole stadium) in the summer months. Understand one promoter sounded them out to use "indoor facilities" but no deal forthcoming.
Perhaps anyone winning on Friday's Eurolotto could buy a 50% stake in the Stoop for Bronco's to have for future use??
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he's a nice little new stadium from poland (15,000), it be nice to see something like this..built in London, owned by the broncos, RFL or both....... Call it Rugby League Park, and Bobs your uncle www.arka.gdynia.pl/images/stadion2_d.jpg
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he's a nice little new stadium from poland (15,000), it be nice to see something like this..built in London, owned by the broncos, RFL or both....... Call it Rugby League Park, and Bobs your uncle www.arka.gdynia.pl/images/stadion2_d.jpg
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Well done to Ian Ramsdale for bringing some facts in to counter all the ludicrous speculation. Thanks Rammo.
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Oh come on, look at the positives. 28 pages of debate on here without it degenerating into a slanging match, got to be a record.
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Quote ="Partisan"he's a nice little new stadium from poland (15,000), it be nice to see something like this..built in London, owned by the broncos, RFL or both....... Call it Rugby League Park, and Bobs your uncle www.arka.gdynia.pl/images/stadion2_d.jpg'"
That would do perfectly on the old RAF Uxbridge rugby pitch, which happens to be laying to waste. Already has floodlighting, one covered stand and I believe Wasps are looking to move back closer to NW London, Ideal opportunity if you ask me, very good travel links, close to all major motorways, Brunel Uni over the road and my union club at Uxbridge Cricket Club for training facilities.
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That would do perfectly on the old RAF Uxbridge rugby pitch, which happens to be laying to waste. Already has floodlighting, one covered stand and I believe Wasps are looking to move back closer to NW London, Ideal opportunity if you ask me, very good travel links, close to all major motorways, Brunel Uni over the road and my union club at Uxbridge Cricket Club for training facilities.
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| Quote ="The Lambeth Bronco"Have been told that Quins RU have "structural debt" of £25 - 30 million, so additional revenues from whatever source would be most welcome. '"
If that is the case like many Super League clubs they are spending far too much money, which they clearly do not have, but now players are on such high salaries how do you ever reduce them?
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