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| Quote ="BigTime"Their back room staff is significant in number they really must have a few quid knocking about. Was that Gary Megson ex WBA manager as a water carrier?
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Tony Clubb as assistant coach seems to be enjoying the pies now his playing career is over.
Quote ="BigTime"As to Leigh’s fans seems Ok to me but I do question quite why fans are so inter- mingled it is a recipe for disaster. I’m. Sure they could have allocated Leigh a stand. Maybe it was just too much hassle.'"
Perhaps they were supposed to be in a separate section, but for all the security I don't see any checks on where you sit.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"You don't like Hughes.....'"
I don't dislike him.....he's probably a lovely bloke but he's ruined the club I support, which is why I post on that clubs forum.....now jog on you northern monkey
Happy we didn't get totally embarrassed by a SL standard squad, but we do look very lightweight in terms of competing for anything other than survival in 2023....we are certainly no nearer SL than we were last February.....and nowhere near the 5,000 fans that we had in 2007 when Hughes took over and he now says he needs after ignoring them for 15 years ....
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Tony Clubb as assistant coach seems to be enjoying the pies now his playing career is over.
Perhaps they were supposed to be in a separate section, but for all the security I don't see any checks on where you sit.'"
Yes I noticed Clubb as well. You can see by the way he ran onto the pitch how much damage the game does to the body.
Yes from back at the start of the season when there was more security than fans there appeared to be just one on the doors of each block and one solitary guard ensuring no one ran onto the pitch. Financially shrewd move but if it kicks off they’ll struggle.
What do you think the attendance was? On the other forum someone said about 350 but I think it was more than that although the perversity of using a 9000 seat stadium and opening only one side and using only about 4 blocks in that stand is more and more obvious every time I attend. Leigh fans were in good voice, Broncos fans probably down a bit- no one likes watching their team trounced, I’d say about 700.
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| Quote ="BigTime".....Their back room staff is significant in number they really must have a few quid knocking about. Was that Gary Megson ex WBA manager as a water carrier?.....'"
Haha, Bongser is guessing you saw Tom Nisbet (on loan from Saints), decent player but not getting an awful lot of game time lately, wears No5 when he does play, but Leigh have recruited heavily since the beginning of the season. 9 appearances (other than "aquaman"icon_wink.gif, 5 tries.
Good luck next week with the visit of a Barrow team that, knowing Batley are away at Leigh, will fancy nicking home advantage in the eliminators. Mind you, Dewsbury had them sweating today and London Broncos is a better team than Dewsbury.
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| Quote ="orangeman".....now jog on you northern monkey
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Classy riposte, Orangeman! Bless you. Hope you and the kids are well.
Your friend, Bongser.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Classy riposte, Orangeman! Bless you. Hope you and the kids are well.
Your friend, Bongser.'"
I'm nothing if not classy mate......twas father's day down here yesterday and whilst the UK resident child was quiet, the young Kiwi born Son treated me handsomely.....stay safe and good luck in SL 2023......let's hope you win one more game than The Wire.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Haha, Bongser is guessing you saw Tom Nisbet (on loan from Saints), decent player but not getting an awful lot of game time lately, wears No5 when he does play, but Leigh have recruited heavily since the beginning of the season. 9 appearances (other than "aquaman"icon_wink.gif, 5 tries.
Good luck next week with the visit of a Barrow team that, knowing Batley are away at Leigh, will fancy nicking home advantage in the eliminators. Mind you, Dewsbury had them sweating today and London Broncos is a better team than Dewsbury.
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He might mean the bloke who brings the kicking tee on and has been doing so for over 20 years (Sean Fairhurst) you could say he had a Gary Megson hairdo
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"He might mean the bloke who brings the kicking tee on and has been doing so for over 20 years (Sean Fairhurst) you could say he had a Gary Megson hairdo
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I think your guess is likely to be the right one Budge. I can’t see the guy I was thinking having been on your playing strength for a fair few years so don’t think it was Nisbet.
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| I thought we played okay today, Leigh are a full time professional side and are probably paying twice as much on salaries as London. They have a squad packed with solid pro's, the kind you find filling the rosters in the lower half of SL; so they just overpowered us with brute force and general competence. But, I didn't find them to be especially skilful and I think they lack the sort of speed needed for SL. I can see Leigh coming straight back down, especially when you consider how many overseas players they are going to have to trim.
I think we can take down Barrow in the final game, and if we hold this side together we can crack the upper half of the table next season.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"I thought we played okay today. I think we can take down Barrow in the final game, and if we hold this side together we can crack the upper half of the table next season.'"
I prefer Cake's post match assessment that it was really poor and unacceptable. As for next season, aiming for mid table won't deliver the fans we need to make the club sustainable.
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| Second London try disallowed correctly but with one of those odd laws of the game, had that been given reckon it was a different game.
Leigh were not that special today, london were poor! Todays Leigh squad will lose its core of overseas players, they will struggle next year as cannot see where they are going to recruit from.
But, some poor execution from London today, dropped ball and dumb last set play. No doubt we would have still lost but by a much better score line and some pride
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I prefer Cake's post match assessment that it was really poor and unacceptable. As for next season, aiming for mid table won't deliver the fans we need to make the club sustainable.'"
It's no good comparing us to Leigh, they had three international wingers in their team today, yes they were all well past their prime and wouldn't be anywhere near a top SL side, but there is a level of investment in the Leigh side that no other Championship side can match (maybe Fev can come close). RL isn't like some other sports e.g. football, where a plucky underdog can hold off a much better team, the nature of the game means that semi-pro sides just can't compete with fully pro sides unless there's something very wrong with the fully pro team. They rolled over us because they were bigger and stronger and they can play consistently at a higher tempo. It's not a disgrace to be beaten when it's such a mismatch.
At the start of the season London were a shambles, the last tackle play, if it ever came, was for Moceidreke to hoof it randomly in the air. But with a few key signings in the spine we now attempt some half decent plays, yes we are one dimensional, and yes we lack true quality, but there is competency, shape, structure and patterns, even if there's no plan B, C, D etc...there is at least something resembling plan A, and that makes us competitive against most teams in this division.
I've given up on the myth of 'sustainability', I don't worry about the magical 5k average (I remember hearing this direct from Nic Cartwright's mouth in the bar at The Stoop in 2006), we need to be competitive in this division, and play some attractive RL that will appeal to RL fans in the South East catchment area. Barring a game or two a season I pretty much gave up when we moved to the Hive, and I thought I'd made a mistake coming back this season, but I've enjoyed what I've seen in the second half of the season. We want people seeing competitive, entertaining games, don't worry about SL. If I were the club I'd flood the local area with £5 ticket deals for the Barrow game, we can play entertaining stuff, even if it's not technically great.
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| I felt London put in a good effort today. Leigh were big, strong and had depth. First try after 3 minutes and I thought the pasting was underway. A minute before halftime London scored under the posts to effectively make it 12-18. But it was disallowed and Leigh went down the pitch to make it 6-24 instead. Would still have lost convincingly, but 12-18 at half time would have looked very good.
The last 30 minutes were tough. Leigh's last three tries were all scored on the final play of a set. Two towering kicks to our left flank followed by a kick through the middle.
The match today was a far better performance by London than some of the early season embarrassments. Still can't believe how poor that Newcastle performance was.
It feels more like we need some quality signings next season rather than quantity. Don't see anybody in today's 17 (no Wellington today) who has to be ditched (and there are some from earlier in the season) although some will need to drop to squad members rather than the matchday 17.
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| DELUSIONAL POST FROM TOTAL RL
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At some point during the season we were faced with the threat of relegation and I really thought the club was dying a slow death, the fans we're losing hope.
Since Mike Eccles has taken over the performances have improved considerably. They've not been perfect but standards have improved and the fans are now awaiting announcements of the club's plans for next season. That includes the decision as to whether Mike Eccles will become the permanent head coach and the backroom staff structure for 2023. What's of major importance now is that the club makes some good, ambitious signings, beefs up the pack and shows the fans that they mean business.
The club has also recently appointed a new head of commercial Mark Kemp which is a good sign, the appointment shows ambition and adds expertise into the back office. I hope we see the benefits of it next season coz there is some indication already of improvement in the way that the club is being run.
Altogether the move to Wimbledon has worked out well but clearly the team, results and performances need to match the quality of the stadium, but generally speaking Plough Lane is a step up from what we've had in recent years it's been a much needed move.
The great thing to hear as a fan is that the club has stated it's aim is to return to SL a huge relief when you consider how poorly the season started '"
THIS ^^^^^^^^^ IS THE TYPE OF FAN HUGHES CRAVES^^^^^^^ the sort of idiot who will pay £20 to massage Hughes ego next week at the One Club event.......we always were "one club"...it wasn't us fans who forgot that!
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"It's no good comparing us to Leigh, they had three international wingers in their team today, yes they were all well past their prime and wouldn't be anywhere near a top SL side, but there is a level of investment in the Leigh side that no other Championship side can match (maybe Fev can come close). RL isn't like some other sports e.g. football, where a plucky underdog can hold off a much better team, the nature of the game means that semi-pro sides just can't compete with fully pro sides unless there's something very wrong with the fully pro team. They rolled over us because they were bigger and stronger and they can play consistently at a higher tempo. It's not a disgrace to be beaten when it's such a mismatch.
At the start of the season London were a shambles, the last tackle play, if it ever came, was for Moceidreke to hoof it randomly in the air. But with a few key signings in the spine we now attempt some half decent plays, yes we are one dimensional, and yes we lack true quality, but there is competency, shape, structure and patterns, even if there's no plan B, C, D etc...there is at least something resembling plan A, and that makes us competitive against most teams in this division.
I've given up on the myth of 'sustainability', I don't worry about the magical 5k average (I remember hearing this direct from Nic Cartwright's mouth in the bar at The Stoop in 2006), we need to be competitive in this division, and play some attractive RL that will appeal to RL fans in the South East catchment area. Barring a game or two a season I pretty much gave up when we moved to the Hive, and I thought I'd made a mistake coming back this season, but I've enjoyed what I've seen in the second half of the season. We want people seeing competitive, entertaining games, don't worry about SL. If I were the club I'd flood the local area with £5 ticket deals for the Barrow game, we can play entertaining stuff, even if it's not technically great.'"
In many respects, I don't diagree but the club needs to decide what it is aiming for.
Is it 5,000 fans in a big new stadium (which means being competitive in SL) or or are they happy to exist mid table in the Championship with 3 digit crowds (in which case they are burning cash with the current facilities). Announcements for next season will reveal which it is and I suspect the latter.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Second London try disallowed correctly but with one of those odd laws of the game, had that been given reckon it was a different game.
Leigh were not that special today, london were poor! Todays Leigh squad will lose its core of overseas players, they will struggle next year as cannot see where they are going to recruit from.
But, some poor execution from London today, dropped ball and dumb last set play. No doubt we would have still lost but by a much better score line and some pride'"
After securing the championship title last week, Leigh put in a training session and still got 50.
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| Quote ="Cokey"After securing the championship title last week, Leigh put in a training session and still got 50.
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So what? Leigh rolled over a part-time team using their full-time team stuffed with overseas players. They will get murdered in SL every week unless they find about 8 UK players of SL standard. But Leigh fans are generally a good laugh, I'm looking forward to seeing them again in 2024.
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| Next season's Wooden Spoon will sit nicely next to this season's Championship Trophy in the Board Room I'm sure.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"So what? Leigh rolled over a part-time team using their full-time team stuffed with overseas players. They will get murdered in SL every week unless they find about 8 UK players of SL standard. But Leigh fans are generally a good laugh, I'm looking forward to seeing them again in 2024.'"
Well just to fill you in, Leigh have already signed Superleague players for next season, whether we are in Superleague or not.
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| Quote ="crashmon"whats worse is I expect Leigh to rest a few, but still score 50+ on us'"
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Next season's Wooden Spoon will sit nicely next to this season's Championship Trophy in the Board Room I'm sure.'"
Maybe but, franchise is coming,so you can enjoy your time outside of the elite for quite some time.
BTW - I believe you don't have any trophies next to your wooden spoons.
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| If franchising is coming, it will surely bypass Leigh. You add no credibility to the competition unlike say Toulouse or a properly funded & run London. There is no future for RL just in the north as most clubs will be broke before the "Powerhouse" effect gets going, if it ever does. Admire your optimism though.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Maybe but, franchise is coming,so you can enjoy your time outside of the elite for quite some time.
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Admire your spirit Cokey. Top trolling. However, you’ve gone down a blind alley here. The idea behind franchising is it unfairly discriminates against areas of rich rugby league history but little national ‘reach’, like Leigh, in favour of places like London. So in that scenario it would be London that had a good payday not Leigh. In fact it may be one of the only ways we can get back into SL unless we get our act together. Anyway I bear no grudge if you can’t have a pop when you’re on the up when can you. I think you’ll do OK next year:your recruitment approach seems sensible. Mind you it’s not easy to stay up as Wakefield have enough about them to just get over the line but we’ll see.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"If franchising is coming, it will surely bypass Leigh.
I believe with this type of comment, and reference to bypassing, one is contractually obliged to say ....”just like the trains.”
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