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| Don't know why some of the usual apologists on here are discussing promotion 2024.....I told you all this was going to happen.......there is no coming back from this.
100 fans left....if that. Part time squad and an academy that has managed to win a couple of games between spankings.....what is the plan? What were the chosen disciples told in that consultation?
Hughes has destroyed the club and he should hang his head in shame. I'm more annoyed that I'm not able to tell him that to his face......any begrudging respect I had for him is gone. He never had a plan. Because he didn't understand why people didn't flock to games he steadfastly refused to spend any money on marketing and the result is that there's nothing to attract any new investment....no fans, no audience, poor standard of academy players, poor standard of first team squad and a dodgy relationship with the games governing body.....it's a husk if what once was a massive opportunity.
To the apologists. Enjoy plough lane.....I give it 24 months.
To the architects of this......I genuinely hope your record if failure follows you on your CV when looking for work once you get canned....you've done this with an arrogance and disregard for the important people....the fans.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"I'll leave you with one positive on a grim day for RL in London. Some people I know who have track records in growing clubs etc have been made aware of the clubs plans for marketing etc for next season. They were quite impressed....'"
I'll burst your bubble now.
There are 100 fans at best who will form a core at PL.
This number was about 3,000 20 years ago when th club decided to move to Brentford. When at Brentford, they advertised in Metro, bus stops and blanket leafletting of the neighbourhood. I believe Chris Warren spent £35,000 on marketing in 2004....we left Brentford a few years and 2 superleague play offs later with 30% more regulars....
We are moving across town with a part time side playing in the 2nd tier of Rugby League. Wimbledon will make all the right noises, because they want us to service their debt, but other than asking their own fans to pay to watch us, there's little they'll be able to do. Recent studies have shown youngsters are less interested in soccer now than at any stage......it's a Natural evolution and dilution as entertainment options widen.... Wimbledon will struggle to fill plough lane......London Broncos will average 150 at best if they have the success we had at Brentford. And remember, we moved to Brentford a few years after the CC final, in SL with large travelling fan bases.....Whitehaven bring their away fans onnth back of a scooter....we were competitive in games.....Featherstone rovers reserves will stick 50+ on us this week.
The only marketing strategy I can see working here is that if a new product launch which would require an eye watering amount of spends and a huge amount of risk.
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| I cant see any marketing strategy working when we are getting our backsides handed to us week in week out, playing a bunch of kids.
You are not going to attract new fans watching a rubbish side.
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| Quote ="orangeman"I'll burst your bubble now.
There are 100 fans at best who will form a core at PL.
This number was about 3,000 20 years ago when th club decided to move to Brentford. When at Brentford, they advertised in Metro, bus stops and blanket leafletting of the neighbourhood. I believe Chris Warren spent £35,000 on marketing in 2004....we left Brentford a few years and 2 superleague play offs later with 30% more regulars....
We are moving across town with a part time side playing in the 2nd tier of Rugby League. Wimbledon will make all the right noises, because they want us to service their debt, but other than asking their own fans to pay to watch us, there's little they'll be able to do. Recent studies have shown youngsters are less interested in soccer now than at any stage......it's a Natural evolution and dilution as entertainment options widen.... Wimbledon will struggle to fill plough lane......London Broncos will average 150 at best if they have the success we had at Brentford. And remember, we moved to Brentford a few years after the CC final, in SL with large travelling fan bases.....Whitehaven bring their away fans onnth back of a scooter....we were competitive in games.....Featherstone rovers reserves will stick 50+ on us this week.
The only marketing strategy I can see working here is that if a new product launch which would require an eye watering amount of spends and a huge amount of risk.'"
I agree the chances of it working are small. It would need time, money and talent to pull it off. I'm not sure Broncos have any of those three in their favour. However, a bad plan would mean certain death. A good plan may just work, even if it's massively odds against. On a truly awful day for London RL I thought the fact the penny may finally have dropped was worth flagging. It's a shame it's almost certainly too late.
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| Quote ="orangeman"
To the apologists. Enjoy plough lane.....I give it 24 months.
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Sadly when we do disappear, countless fans of other clubs will crow "bound to happen, no one in London ever had any interest in rugby league."
I was once naive enough to think that a successful London side would transform the perception of the sport in this country. Well, that ship has well and truly sailed. Sailed and then sunk.
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| Quote ="Benny Profane"Sadly when we do disappear, countless fans of other clubs will crow "bound to happen, no one in London ever had any interest in rugby league."
I was once naive enough to think that a successful London side would transform the perception of the sport in this country. Well, that ship has well and truly sailed. Sailed and then sunk.'"
Best way to sum up why we are at this juncture is actually the WCC warm up games.
2009. Manly. RFL marketed the game and we got 6,000.
2010 we were again give the warm up game v the storm, but no marketing from the RFL, we didn't bother even trying and we got 3,500
It was simple bloody maths.....an extra £50k on the gate +whatever in the bars and food concessions because of a heap of PR and Promotional work undertaken by the RFL in London prior to the Manly match..
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| Has anyone received an e-mail from the club about this? I haven't and am wondering whether I'm now on some don't bother e-mailing them list or whether the club really don't feel the need to inform someone who has held around twenty season tickets - albeit not this season for health reasons.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Has anyone received an e-mail from the club about this? I haven't and am wondering whether I'm now on some don't bother e-mailing them list or whether the club really don't feel the need to inform someone who has held around twenty season tickets - albeit not this season for health reasons.'"
Email from the club?
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| Quote ="Benny Profane"Sadly when we do disappear, countless fans of other clubs will crow "bound to happen, no one in London ever had any interest in rugby league."
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Typical on Twitter yesterday, some Loud Mouth! sent me a message, you never attracted more than 100!! when I looked at his information LFC Fan and Saints, the team who has been attracting 7,000 to 8,000 this season! the new stadium St Helens Council pulled out all the stops for them ££££, population now of the area is 170,000, council spending council tax money for 7,000 lol, it sums up RL, yes some people in lockdown have found better things to do, but no one at the RFL will pull their finger out!
It was good in the Catalan game Saints owner, the man with his personal offices at the ground lol, jumped up and down with one of the late conversion attempts, while no one around him in the stand did! Would love to have found a photo o this and titled it ;Should have Gone to Specsavers' lol
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| People keep talking about 2024. In 2022 and 2023 we have to pay 200K rent just for PL... Not sure how much for Richmond. And we have very little central funding. Just how much money do you think we have to spend on the squad (acadamy). I don't see any noises from Wimbledon regarding the cost of the rent, (and why should they reduce it).... But no matter what the ticket price and marketing, people are not going to flock to see kids get beat by 50 week on week on week.
Would be interesting if we draw WWR in the cup next year. Could be their first ever win
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| I wonder what onnth gate price will be demanded to watch part time players next year. This year started at £25.00 IIRC.....what will the accountant lobster and commercial monkey think the imaginary hoards of new fans will pay to watch egg chasers get walloped by a team from a pit village they've never heard of?
How much do Skolars charge?
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| Think this year s/t was £100 with Conc at £80. No idea re kids. Match tickets £15 I think but sure there are those that know better than me.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Think this year s/t was £100 with Conc at £80. No idea re kids. Match tickets £15 I think but sure there are those that know better than me.'"
900 was the average in 2018 in the championship....we won it and went up. 2022 will see us struggle to stay up....BUT....let's say we get 1,000 back, how.much will they be expected to pay to watch part timers?
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| Quote ="orangeman"900 was the average in 2018 in the championship....we won it and went up. 2022 will see us struggle to stay up....BUT....let's say we get 1,000 back, how.much will they be expected to pay to watch part timers?'"
I imagine prices will be same as this year. It will be impossible to justify raising them.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I imagine prices will be same as this year. It will be impossible to justify raising them.'"
So as it was at the start...£25.00 a pop on the door? Good luck with that
Harlequins open their Gallagher account at home to Worcester later this month. £30 is the walk up price and there's not a lot of tickets left.
Trailfinders was £210.00 for their Season Ticket in the grand stand.......we were after £30 more...in enemy territory?
On the topic of Trailfinders. 2nd tier. Knocking at the door of the top flight and doing it on average gates of about 800.......I was 100% against the move there, but now it seems insanity to move.....unless that is....we are assured of a SL2 spot
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| Quote ="orangeman"So as it was at the start...£25.00 a pop on the door? Good luck with that
Harlequins open their Gallagher account at home to Worcester later this month. £30 is the walk up price and there's not a lot of tickets left.
Trailfinders was £210.00 for their Season Ticket in the grand stand.......we were after £30 more...in enemy territory?
On the topic of Trailfinders. 2nd tier. Knocking at the door of the top flight and doing it on average gates of about 800.......I was 100% against the move there, but now it seems insanity to move.....unless that is....we are assured of a SL2 spot
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| Quote ="nadera78"And even then no-one knows what's happening with the 3rd tier.'"
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| A Coventry source is saying it looks like £1.8m to be split between the Championship clubs next season and just over £200k between the League One clubs. There may not be a third tier to get relegated to.
As is widely known I was a dual Oxford/Broncos season ticket holder. A co-owner at Oxford told me one reason they pulled the plug was they thought League One would be scrapped within five years and they weren't prepared to invest the sort of sum required to turn the club around, knowing if they succeeded they'd probably be booted out before they could make their losses back.
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| Quote ="nadera78"Zero chance of that - the clubs are still bickering as to how they're going to change the structure. It's 'probably' going to be 2 x 10s but only because that's the idea people seem to hate least of all not because it has any great enthusiasm behind it. And even then no-one knows what's happening with the 3rd tier.'"
Only problem! It seems Sky feel 2 x 10 is the only solution! they seem to be driving this, seems they are not willing to look within, how their main co commentators are two clowns! I feel this contrac5 may be the last, they are moving big into women's football, the cricket fun one day games, would we get a broadcaster willing even to match the new fee, I doubt it!
It feels a little like The Titanic! some Super League clubs will struggle next.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Only problem! It seems Sky feel 2 x 10 is the only solution! they seem to be driving this, seems they are not willing to look within, how their main co commentators are two clowns! I feel this contrac5 may be the last, they are moving big into women's football, the cricket fun one day games, would we get a broadcaster willing even to match the new fee, I doubt it!
It feels a little like The Titanic! some Super League clubs will struggle next.'"
After spending a lot of money on trying to raise the Titanic, Sir Lew Grade said "it would be cheaper to lower the Atlantic". Not sure what he would make of the Broncos!
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"After spending a lot of money on trying to raise the Titanic, Sir Lew Grade said "it would be cheaper to lower the Atlantic". Not sure what he would make of the Broncos!
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You're right jaybs, think we've had more over that & Wimbledon than we've had in the last 10 years. They say all publicity is good publicity but struggling to see it here.
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You're right jaybs, think we've had more over that & Wimbledon than we've had in the last 10 years. They say all publicity is good publicity but struggling to see it here.
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