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| If refs under perform they dont get the better games, if a ref performs well they get promoted to better games like Gareth hewer and challenge cup.
why do sky cririsise the refs half the time because they don't actually know the rules the other half of the time is to encourage controversy.
the reaility is our game is in danger of following the football path. Do any of us want that?
I still have not heard anyone come up with a solution!
Refs decisions are all part of the game, good or bad, the better teams accept it and get on with it, look at RU did the all blacks whinge about refs decisions, nope they looked at there own game not trying to pass the buck
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| The refs argument can go on for ages and it will, the thing in this thread is the discip panel looked at the incident on video and refs report, it was deemed dangerous, he got fiound guilty and given a ban in line with the published guide lines, why is that wrong? We get treated the same as any club apart from one thing! And that's the ability to go in front of the panel in person as it's held at red hall, as a full time club though we should be able to release the players to travel to Leeds.
The panel use the same guide lines for every club, so not sure how folk think we are hard done by.
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| Scott Moore (Bradford Bulls) pleaded not guilty to a Grade C dangerous contact charge in the Kingstone Press Championship match against Rochdale Hornets on June 18th. The player was found guilty, suspended for two matches and fined £100.
Bet the Bradford fans are saying the same as us
Looks pretty standard to me
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| The RFL use the disciplinary panel to flex their muscles, to give the impression that they are in control of the sport. Where in reality on the administration and commercial sides they are rank amateurs. IMHO
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| What might be worth doing as well is looking at the match review list of referred incidents, have a look as a club what we have had so far this season, and how many resulted in no charge compared to any ban.
It also gives a pretty detailed description of why the decision was made, and interestingly that the only counter evidence given by the club was Hendon by phone not the player in person.
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| Red, it may be but it's what we have so we accept it or follow another sport.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"What might be worth doing as well is looking at the match review list of referred incidents, have a look as a club what we have had so far this season, and how many resulted in no charge compared to any ban.
It also gives a pretty detailed description of why the decision was made, and interestingly that the only counter evidence given by the club was Hendon by phone not the player in person.'"
It's a long way to go for a ten minute meeting when the decision has already been made.
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| someone did that on facebook. we had been up before the disciplinary 6 times this season and had two charges. Wigan if I remember correctly were 58 times before the disciplinary and 6 charges oh well I am sure you can turn this to your advantage northernbloke. What is the percentage of charge for london and the percentage for Wigan. Seem to remember Warrington were as high as Wigan and as low in the charge department. maybe the whole thing ought to be analysed by a truly independent panel
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| Having watched this afternoons Catalan Leigh game, my respect for Mr Hewer as a referee is even lower than that of Mr Hicks.
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| Mr hewer ...oh dear oh dear oh dear
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| If you take like for like, so instead of looking at Wigan Warrington etc look at other championship teams. Look at KR Dewsbury Oldham Halifax instead.
Then you can choose to look at it two ways glass hall full or half empty.
Half full we have only been in front of the panel 6 times compare that to the other teams most are well into double figures
Half empty out of the 6 2 have resulted in charges. The RFL must hate us, Toulouse have 7 with 3 charges!
Look at any organisation that has discip hearings, look at the countries judiciary that hold hearings. If you get charged with any offence in any situation chances are if you can't be bothered to make the effort to appear before that hearing then the outcome is likely to be worse than if you do appear, it's fact. We hardly ever send the player up to red hall to explain what his thoughts on the action were, so the club does very little to help the panel.
For me I look at the positive, we have only had 6 events referred which has to be a positive.
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