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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Agree. But more pseudo statistics from the attendees?'"
I have direct statistics from the NEW source as well as the old (much to the annoyance of the CEO)......believe me, this brave new world has a window (even if it is 12k miles away)....and as of now, Gus knows it!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I have direct statistics from the NEW source as well as the old (much to the annoyance of the CEO)......believe me, this brave new world has a window (even if it is 12k miles away)....and as of now, Gus knows it!
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You talking about you again. Shock Horror.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"BTW, when I let an a apologist like you dictate when, how often and where I can post, it'll be a cold day in hell!
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My we are touchy!
Did I say that you should not be posting, I have took enough stick over the years, but I don't care! so I doubt you will. I just get tired of the negative all the time, look at what is positive at least a little!
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| Yes the best way to make a difference is to post on every single thread on some fans forum on the internet about how badly the club's run. That'll sort the problem out. Nice one.
OR you just create a negative atmosphere and turn fans off and in turn are part of the problem making you Gutterfax a hypocrite not the saviour.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
BTW, when I let an a apologist like you dictate when, how often and where I can post, it'll be a cold day in hell! '"
You do seem to have adopted the scattergun approach to commas though.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"OR you just create a negative atmosphere and turn fans off and in turn are part of the problem making you Gutterfax a hypocrite not the saviour.'"
My musings on the internet are the least of the clubs problems, but your belief that I have any influence shows how keen certain posters are to find a scapegoat for the poor management of the club.
The RFL should have thrown 3 million a year at the club and let them pick as many aussies as they wanted for the first 20 years, but they didn't and they are in part to blame for the "failure" of the London franchise, but the fiasco that has unfolded over the last 5 years is entirely down to the management (or lack of it) at the club.
The thoughts of a Keyboard warrior 12,000 miles away are hardly headline news, but the sponsor from 2013 asking to see a business/marketing plan before making a decision on 2014 and the club not having one is....well, it is if you actually care about what is happening at the club.
Back on Thread.
I see Barnet attracted another 1,500 gate at the weekend. If we can tempt 50% of them to come and have a look (2 more home games before Salford come to town...Barnet FC are away in Wrexham that day), I suspect we may see a crowd of 3,500 or so.
As Tony Rea said at the open day, one of the keys to this "partnership" (it's not a normal tenancy apparently....) is to get people to come and watch games. Well, let's hope that TK keeps up his end of the bargain and promotes the crap out of the season opener.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"BTW, when I let an a apologist like you dictate when, how often and where I can post, it'll be a cold day in hell!
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Here GF, you ain't arf starting to sound like Eels Fan and Dally Messenger now. You're with us or against us! You've also said similar things that Rupe1 did years ago. Do you think the old addage "what you don't like about others is often what you don't like about yourself" is starting to ring true?
Another question. You say you are a supporter. How do you support the club exactly?
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Here GF, you ain't arf starting to sound like Eels Fan and Dally Messenger now. You're with us or against us! You've also said similar things that Rupe1 did years ago. Do you think the old addage "what you don't like about others is often what you don't like about yourself" is starting to ring true?
Another question. You say you are a supporter. How do you support the club exactly?'"
1. I post musings about the club and over the last 5 years or so, specifically about how badly it has been run. Am I wrong?
2. I don't post opinions regarding other posters musings or in your case, effectively stalk another poster. I don't care for your "we nearly signed" updates or the abject apologetic nature and your defence of the indefensible, but I don't stalk your every 'ISSUE" of non-news.
3. I purchase (where possible) goods from the club. Alas, due to the poor selection of replica gear supplier (see post 1.), this hasn't been possible under the guise of the London Broncos V.2 (although windy one did post me 2 "we're back T-shirts) in Late 2011.
4. Dally Messenger and Eels fan (see my sig) were idiots who posted inflammatory rubbish designed to illicit responses by which they could brand other posters trolls. Both were banished to the toilet that is LU along with others including EA, who has managed to get himself banned there as well for berating anyone who dared question how fallible and badly run the game is. Compare me with them if you wish, but I post facts (or educated guesses that are 90% accurate). Just because they are doom and gloom and not flowers in the garden doesn't make them any less relevant.
5. BTW, I am still posting here whilst the troll hunters you mention above are not.....you think about that for a while.
6. Rupe1 was an idiot who declared Quins would be the death of us (they weren't) and briefly came back when London Broncos V.2 were announced and said we'd see the fans flock back.....QED, he was an idiot!
7. This thread is all about Barnet mentioning London Broncos at half time in a push to get their soccer fans to come and check out the egg chasers. History has shown that reliance on soccer fans at Brentford and Charlton, as well as Union fans at the Stoop is a flawed marketing strategy, so the management go right on and do it again and yet rather than discuss this, you question "how I support the club".
I have supported the club passionately since 2002. I have done loads of things that other volunteers have done, pushed some issues to the parliamentary group (SKY shifting the game KO in France), organised and filled coaches to away games and generally done everything in my limited powers to help the club grow. In that time I have also met with the RFL and the representatives of the RFL and out in place deals that were ignored by the club (but were implemented by other clubs and organisations successfully).
I expect no thanks or recognition for any of the things I have done or tried to do, but I will not sit idly by whilst they destroy the club I do support. Neither will I take criticism from posters on here who are happy to sit by and watch it happen. I don't support a soccer or a union club and I got to NRL games featuring the Warriors because I enjoy the game, but I support London Broncos. The club is being massacred before our very eyes to the extent that a loss in friendly game in France against 8 of the Catalan Squad and 12 non squad players is being seen as a positive, where an announcement over the PA system at half time in a soccer match is a marketing masterstroke and where the fact that the sponsors from 2013 wanted a business/marketing plan and we didn't have one is swept under the carpet.
You and your ilk happily smile that we have a squad of players for 2014 where we didn't 45 days ago even though we are un-backable to finish last .......I'd rather ask why the did we find ourselves in that position and why in christ's name are we repeating the same mistakes from the previous 18 years in SL. Tony Rea is on record as saying that DH wanted a partner to assist with the club and seemed disappointed one wasn't forthcoming. I have a theory as to why a partner couldn't be found.......in fact, I have 10,237,673 Theories with each of them representing £1 of losses incurred by the owner of the club in the 5 years to 2012......who in their right mind is going to invest in an organisation that has a megalomaniac holding the purse strings and making no attempt to make things better, but who instead destroys the club in a perverse attempt to make it more attractive to a buyer?
The Guy at Barnet isn't spending a brass farthing this year or next........am I the only one who sees the massive flaw in this arrangement?
There you have it RB. That's how I support the club. I don't sit by idly and hand over £250 a year to witness 13 hammerings and I don't thank my lucky stars we have a team at all. What I do is question the sanity and business acumen of the people at the club, given the current set up since 2008 when IL buggered off has lost close to £13,000,000 and 45% of our fans....including the halving of the number of Season Ticket holders in that period.
Oh, by the way, if you think there's a lot of "me...it's all about me" in the above answer, can I suggest you rephrase the question if you don't like it!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
5. BTW, I am still posting here whilst the troll hunters you mention above are not.....you think about that for a while.
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You are still posting here because I stopped being a mod
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| Has anyone actually read either of Gutterfax's dissertations above?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Has anyone actually read either of Gutterfax's dissertations above?'"
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| Quote ="Homer"c015.gif You are still posting here because I stopped being a mod
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He was kicked off the NRL forum for a while after calling someone the C word, because they didn't agree with him.
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| Quote ="Homer"c015.gif You are still posting here because I stopped being a mod
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"He was kicked off the NRL forum for a while after calling someone the C word, because they didn't agree with him.'"
No...... I called then a C because they were acting like a C. They aren't there any more BTW.....
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| Quote ="gutterfax"1. I post musings about the club and over the last 5 years or so, specifically about how badly it has been run. Am I wrong? '"
Nothing to do with either of my questions. Talk about yourself again.
Quote ="gutterfax"2. I don't post opinions regarding other posters musings or in your case, effectively stalk another poster. I don't care for your "we nearly signed" updates or the abject apologetic nature and your defence of the indefensible, but I don't stalk your every 'ISSUE" of non-news. '"
Stalk? Apologetic? Your black and white, catastrophising opinion again... like Eels fans and Dally.
Quote ="gutterfax"3. I purchase (where possible) goods from the club. Alas, due to the mickey poor selection of replica gear supplier (see post 1.), this hasn't been possible under the guise of the London Broncos V.2 (although windy one did post me 2 "we're back T-shirts) in Late 2011.'"
So you don't buy anything. And apparently you used to get as many freebies as poss.
Quote ="gutterfax"4. Dally Messenger and Eels fan (see my sig) were idiots who posted inflammatory rubbish designed to illicit responses by which they could brand other posters trolls. Both were banished to the toilet that is LU along with others including EA, who has managed to get himself banned there as well for berating anyone who dared question how fallible and badly run the game is. Compare me with them if you wish, but I post facts (or educated guesses that are 90% accurate). Just because they are doom and gloom and not flowers in the garden doesn't make them any less relevant.'"
You were banned from the NRL forum for calling them C**TS. You're like them with your "George W Bush, with me or against me" attitude". But your constant repetitiveness is clearly having a negative effect on this forum as more people seemed peeved off by you.
Quote ="gutterfax"5. BTW, I am still posting here whilst the troll hunters you mention above are not.....you think about that for a while.'"
Yes they were banned, because they were harrassing but never called anyone the C word. Mind you, some of the things you've said on here have been let through to the wicketkeeper.
Quote ="gutterfax"6. Rupe1 was an idiot who declared Quins would be the death of us (they weren't) and briefly came back when London Broncos V.2 were announced and said we'd see the fans flock back.....QED, he was an idiot! '"
He's an idiot that also said many things about the death of RL in London and how poor the marketing was etc. Did you forget that bit?
Quote ="gutterfax"7. This thread is all about Barnet mentioning London Broncos at half time in a push to get their soccer fans to come and check out the egg chasers. History has shown that reliance on soccer fans at Brentford and Charlton, as well as Union fans at the Stoop is a flawed marketing strategy, so the management go right on and do it again and yet rather than discuss this, you question "how I support the club". '"
I'm simply wondering how you see yourself as someone that supports the club? People ask me, I say I'm a fan. I don't support anything financially, but I do in other ways.
Quote ="gutterfax"I have supported the club passionately since 2002. I have done loads of things that other volunteers have done, pushed some issues to the parliamentary group (SKY shifting the game KO in France), organised and filled coaches to away games and generally done everything in my limited powers to help the club grow. In that time I have also met with the RFL and the representatives of the RFL and out in place deals that were ignored by the club (but were implemented by other clubs and organisations successfully). '"
Ah, the coaches. Is that when you had a massive whinge, because you were let down, on here years ago and even grassed someone up by posting their PERSONAL MESSAGE to you on here for all to see?
Quote ="gutterfax"I expect no thanks or recognition for any of the things I have done or tried to do, but I will not sit idly by whilst they destroy the club I do support. Neither will I take criticism from posters on here who are happy to sit by and watch it happen. I don't support a soccer or a union club and I got to NRL games featuring the Warriors because I enjoy the game, but I support London Broncos. The club is being massacred before our very eyes to the extent that a loss in friendly game in France against 8 of the Catalan Squad and 12 non squad players is being seen as a positive, where an announcement over the PA system at half time in a soccer match is a marketing masterstroke and where the fact that the sponsors from 2013 wanted a business/marketing plan and we didn't have one is swept under the carpet.'"
Good, because you will get no thanks. Again people on here have a different opinion or see things in a different light and you "WILL NOT SIT IDLY BY". Who are you?
Quote ="gutterfax"You and your ilk happily smile that we have a squad of players for 2014 where we didn't 45 days ago even though we are un-backable to finish last
.......I'd rather ask why the love did we find ourselves in that position and why in christ's name are we repeating the same mistakes from the previous 18 years in SL. Tony Rea is on record as saying that DH wanted a partner to assist with the club and seemed disappointed one wasn't forthcoming. I have a theory as to why a partner couldn't be found.......in fact, I have 10,237,673 Theories with each of them representing £1 of losses incurred by the owner of the club in the 5 years to 2012......who in their right mind is going to invest in an organisation that has a megalomaniac holding the purse strings and making no attempt to make things better, but who instead destroys the club in a perverse attempt to make it more attractive to a buyer?
The Guy at Barnet isn't spending a brass farthing this year or next........am I the only one who sees the massive flaw in this arrangement? '"
Me and my ilk??? Oh please. Oh hold on there's another emoticon. We are in that position because of poor management. We know that, you know that. You also remind us in every thread.
Quote ="gutterfax"There you have it RB. That's how I support the club. '"
So you don't support the club then. I just looked it up in the OED and what you do isn't.
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Yes, they were banned site wide. You weren't. I used to agree with you then.
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| Have work shops for new fans explaining rules, have a newbie section in which there are people explaining the rules during the game.
Some people can be intimidated by new sports and not understanding the rules.
Have people who can volunteer to sit next to a newbie and talk them through the game.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Have work shops for new fans explaining rules, have a newbie section in which there are people explaining the rules during the game.
Some people can be intimidated by new sports and not understanding the rules.
Have people who can volunteer to sit next to a newbie and talk them through the game.'"
Totally agree with this. If a push is being made to get Barnet etc fans to the early game this is needed. A non playing squad member would be ideal tbh.
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| Happened quite a lot during the wc with the curious non rl fan at the games turning and asking "why this happened, why that happened, vwhy the ref did this" always happy to help
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| Rooster, and gutters calm down children, this started as a positive thread.
not gonna go through the whole post from you gutters but a couple of things said by rooster do ring true.
but we all seemed to have missed its paddock thats poured the water on this one with him telling us its all poop
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| Nobody cares if you are right or wrong any more Gutterfax, it's not a case of burying our heads in the sand and ignoring your 'truths', it's a case of not wanting to read it over and over again on every thread.
Do you understand that?
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| Tre has a point.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Tre has a point.'"
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