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| Think jaybs and Moe are right.
RP will still be in a job if we lose, imo. If he was going to go, he would have gone quite a few games ago.
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| I will say that we as fans have been too kind and too polite, certainly when compared to our northern rivals, certain other sports and sports in other countries. We are often summarised as passionate, but small in number and this may be true to an extent but I believe our passions brim under the water when compared to more vitriolic fans. I can only rem one proper outburst against Powell all season, that rebuke of the Towel at the Catalans game would have been followed by numerous other for instance Cas fans, but we keep our emotions under the surface, the reserved Londoner who tuts, who doesn't speak his or her mind, but leaves it to write after the event, well look where that has got us.
The other point is one that Iestyn Harris made on the SL show a while back that our matches tend to lack atmosphere and intensity, home and away because there is no cauldron, no killer atmosphere that pushes either team to dig that little deeper, and I think this bleeds into the team. Too many just accept defeat, or accept a missed tackle because at their former club they would have been crucified by their own fans, where as we just groan and those groans are at least half in number as they were used to. Basically we are too reserved and the players don't hear that we are not okay with failure, and then failure then becomes an accepted routine at the club. Are we to blame, partially maybe, but to do nothing really hasn't helped the situation at all now has it.
It may be verging on daft but we should make our feelings known and unless someone has a better idea I will be bringing a white towel to the Widnes game.
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| I agree with a lot that you say, Londo. It's true that Londoners are a bit more reserved than our Northern counterparts and the fact that we are such a small crowd means we cant influence the ref or the game to much effect.
I must admit that I wouldn't boo my team...it's just not me, I'm afraid. My sister mentioned to Chad one day that he was lucky that we London supporters don't boo. His reply? "Perhaps you should!" That was at an away game a couple of years back.
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| Quote ="Dan Stains woz God"I agree with a lot that you say, Londo. It's true that Londoners are a bit more reserved than our Northern counterparts and the fact that we are such a small crowd means we cant influence the ref or the game to much effect.
I must admit that I wouldn't boo my team...it's just not me, I'm afraid. My sister mentioned to Chad one day that he was lucky that we London supporters don't boo. His reply? "Perhaps you should!" That was at an away game a couple of years back.'"
I'm not sure I could ever boo my team, but if we are playing by one set of rules to every other set of fans out there, then surely our players have ears and when they hear we are okay with insipid performances then why would they think that anything is wrong.
Basically the players are having to be there own motivators at the minute as fans drift away and I just don't see an ounce of charisma in the Towel that would lift the team.
The Towel has all but said that Gower delivers more than a few team talks, why not sound him out as a player-head coach if we don't have the cash to bring someone in. I see a lack of passion at every level of this club, and it's about time we let everyone know that we're not gonna take it!
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| Quote ="Londo06"
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why not sound him out as a player-head coach if we don't have the cash to bring someone in. I see a lack of passion at every level of this club, and it's about time we let everyone know that we're not gonna take it!'"
I find it worrying that he is doing this already and it still has no effect. If that is the case is there much point in promoting him
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| Fair points, Londo. Do you not think that CG has enough on his plate though?
I know what you mean about lack of passion though. Unfortunately, we haven't got hardly anyone left that have a long term affection/affiliation for this club.
On a side issue, I'm not convinced this re-branding has helped us. I find it hard not to shout out "Come on Quins" etc...I don't think everyone has got comfortable with Broncos yet. Hard to come up with anything to chant other than the turgid "Larndan, Larndan". Oh for the days of "we've got the longest name in Super League" and "The Sharpest Willy" . Mind you, we were losing even then.
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| Quote ="Snoopy"I find it worrying that he is doing this already and it still has no effect.
If that is the case is there much point in promoting him
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Can't be blamed as we don't know how many he has taken, but we do know that he brought players into the club by his reputation and that he is the leader of the club at games and in training. But it may well be a case of me just trying to be cost-effective in my ideas, and that may not be the way to go, esp if there doesn't seem to be a track record for his teamtalks working.
Surely there must be someone willing to come in on an interim basis for a wedge of cash, say even the av yearly wage in this country for three months work with a view to carrying on or is that too lofty an ideal, or have we and David Hughes reached peak oil?
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| Quote ="Dan Stains woz God"Fair points, Londo. Do you not think that CG has enough on his plate though?
I know what you mean about lack of passion though. Unfortunately, we haven't got hardly anyone left that have a long term affection/affiliation for this club.
On a side issue, I'm not convinced this re-branding has helped us. I find it hard not to shout out "Come on Quins" etc...I don't think everyone has got comfortable with Broncos yet. Hard to come up with anything to chant other than the turgid "Larndan, Larndan". Oh for the days of "we've got the longest name in Super League" and "The Sharpest Willy" . Mind you, we were losing even then.'"
£100k a year or whatever I say load it on him, would be a great way to start a coaches career, with a team that should be doing alot better, a team with internationals and NRL GF winners, I'd be interested if I was him and it was offered to me.
Side issue was that we stuck a GTI badge on a mark 2 Golf and did nothing else about it, everyone knew that all we'd done was through a bucket of water over her, polished her up a bit and added a badge. Without a ground move or a significant change in infrastructure it was always gonna less than even a facelift as the money wasn't put in to actually say this is more than a new badge on the same old car, but without a new home, new infrastructure, and many players retained there was little interest. That left it up to a winning side, and as that has not happened we have gone backwards instead of potentially taking the small steps forwards that we should have taken with a team performing to their potential.
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| Quote ="wire quin"We are not standing round doing nothing we are standing round doing other things, hence the reduction in numbers watching the games- As Clarkey keeps harping on about KPI's, this is our indicator of failure'"
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| I wonder if a white feather might be more appropriate
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| Maybe we should carry out a review of whether we should protest or not
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| Quote ="Darthchris"Maybe we should carry out a review of whether we should protest or not'"
I'll get onto that now, results will be
made public at the end of Rob Powells Contract. In the mean time any one else is welcome to be appointed as protest logistics manager or any other vague job title you can think of
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| Whats the betting some jobsworth Security nut job will find a reason to stop towels being brought into the ground. I am going to say it is my prayer towel.
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| I could bring my Parramatta Eels towel. It hasn't stopped shedding yellow fluff on everything since I bought it in Oz 5 years ago...
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| Pedant alert - the Pittsburgh Steelers' terrible towels are not waved to express disgust in the direction of the coach but to try to intimidate the opposition when they're in possession of the ball. They are accompanied by whistles, boos etc.
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| Quote ="Billericay Quin"Pedant alert - the Pittsburgh Steelers' terrible towels are not waved to express disgust in the direction of the coach but to try to intimidate the opposition when they're in possession of the ball. They are accompanied by whistles, boos etc.'"
When did anybody say they were?
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| In fact I have changed my mind, a polite round of applause after the full time hooter is in order if we get beat, as is customary in the West Stand.
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| I am starting to want Us to lose Saturday, Seems wrong on every front but Towel would have to go then surely??
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"In fact I have changed my mind, a polite round of applause after the full time hooter is in order if we get beat, as is customary in the West Stand.'"
And a rush to the front to shake the players hands
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| Can't seriously want us to lose? I would rather we win, then win next time and win again afterwards even if it means him keeping his job, if he can produce wins thats what we need. Though that won't happen.
I intend to take a Towell because I am completely fed up with the team, coach club and everything, and if I hadnt paid for a season ticket I wouldn't bother going at all.
It's not childish making your feelings known, sitting there taking it and clapping them off time and again when they have played like tripe is the silly thing to do.
Think towels are only a few quid in wilkinson...
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| Quote ="sogspurs"Can't seriously want us to lose? I would rather we win, then win next time and win again afterwards even if it means him keeping his job, if he can produce wins thats what we need. Though that won't happen.
I intend to take a Towell because I am completely fed up with the team, coach club and everything, and if I hadnt paid for a season ticket I wouldn't bother going at all.
It's not childish making your feelings known, sitting there taking it and clapping them off time and again when they have played like tripe is the silly thing to do.
Think towels are only a few quid in wilkinson...'"
You are being unfair to tripe the dish of yorkshire our lot are not that good more like week old Jellied eels left in the sun, Looks crap, Smells crap and you would not want to pay for it
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| Quote ="Wnidyone2012"I am starting to want Us to lose Saturday, Seems wrong on every front but Towel would have to go then surely??'"
Nope - afraid not. Even if we get nilled, and lose by 100+ points in front of a crowd of 250 the Towel would still be in a job on Sunday morning
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| Powell is being interviewed by Rammo on Radio London this evening. Don't know if he's inviting questions from listeners but you could try if you want.
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| The interview was recorded this afternoon I believe.
Feel sorry for Ian Ramsdale...must be difficult coming up with anything positive to say about our team (hence he broadened the spectrum of the programme to encompass all London and Southern RL.)
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"In fact I have changed my mind, a polite round of applause after the full time hooter is in order if we get beat, as is customary in the West Stand.'"
Don't forget silly shouting from the stand such as 'go on robbo' and 'go on dicko'. What cretin started that?
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