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| Why are you idiots getting all paranoid about your own following? I couldn't care less if you bought 50 or 5000, my only reason for mentioning it was in comparison to the crowd at our St Helens game.
Why are northerners so obsessed with how many supporters they took away? At least if you are Wigan or Leeds its something to be proud of maybe. But when you bring a fleet of taxis like your lot, why bother commenting?
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"Quote ="Torbreck"Hardly the sort of match that would inspire thousands to come through the turnstiles again in London so it probably was a good thing the attendance was small. Very disappointed with the away lot, or lack of them!'"
I would think Huddersfield brought many more than London bring to Huddersfield.
Also me and my wife coming down by car, it would cost us £85 - £95 inc admission and a meal, don`t know how much car park is, but assuming a £5 it is taking the best part of £100. TOO MUCH'"
What do you say to our fans who are faced with that every 2 weeks you miserable cretin?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"What do you say to our fans who are faced with that every 2 weeks you miserable cretin?'"
I sympathise with them both.
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| Quote ="Towns88"I sympathise with them both.'"
Classy
There are about 77 more games, 37 of them at "home" before DH leaves....and I can assure you that anything less than 5k average gates by the end of Superleague 19 will see either the club fold or the RFL/SKY having to step in.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Classy
There are about 77 more games, 37 of them at "home" before DH leaves....and I can assure you that anything less than 5k average gates by the end of Superleague 19 will see either the club fold or the RFL/SKY having to step in.'"
Superleague XIX if you please, you uncouth Colonial.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"What do you say to our fans who are faced with that every 2 weeks you miserable cretin?'"
That`s not the type of reply I am used to from Broncos fans.
I have sympathy for the travelling Broncos fans, but it is not our fault that you are based so far away from the action.
Any way you could go and watch London Skolars when the Broncos are up north.
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| The club isn't well advertised. I know they're trying...but I live 5 miles away from the Stoop and if it wasn't for the fact that I knew about RL in London before hand, I'd never know London Broncos existed. That is a real shame.
No good just sending emails etc....you're only contacting people that either go or can't be a$sed.
Why not get some deals or coverage on massive sendouts like Groupon or Martins Money etc...these emails/correspondance reach and massive market.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"....and I can assure you that anything less than 5k average gates by the end of Superleague 19 will see either the club fold or the RFL/SKY having to step in.'"
Sadly it is looking more reality, the start we have had which are not easy teams to beat has not helped and will not bring in a thousand extra or more that we need, it well may be the last option and spin of the dice to make the last move of venue and it either works next time or not!
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| Marketing still a shambles or non-existent, poor performance on the pitch and a coach with no experience of the professional game apparently appointed against the advice of the RFL - I'm having the heretical thought that the problem is David Hughes.
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| So what happened to all comments on here after the Saints games that "...I saw so many people at the game who I hadn't seen since we were last called London Broncos and played at Griffin Park?" Where did those people disappear to once more?
The miraculous impact that certain people felt reverting to Broncos would have is certainly not happening.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"Any way you could go and watch London Skolars when the Broncos are up north.
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| I wonder how many tried and gave up. The normal 30-40 journey to the Stoop ended up 1hr 15 for me (arrived just after 2 pm) because of the people travelling to Wembley. It's gotta be said that kick off time was pretty poor considering all the people going to the League Cup final.
But yeah the crowd was very small considering how good it looked for the opener. Hudds brought 2 coaches so that'll see attendance down, but not account for all of it. Hope it picks up a bit, I'm trying to bring one person to each match.
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| There were a lot of factors which meant many set off and turned back, low away support, and some prefered to stay home and watch other major sports on TV rather than risk being seriously disappointed by another performance as we had at Hull.
Our fan base consists of various degrees of loyalty. When you get past the hardcore there are many who enjoy the game but expect to see their team compete or they will not bother. We need a good win to convince these fans. They came to see us play Saints and seemed happy but the team let them down badly following that. Unfortunate really Hull was on TV where they could see how bad it was. Remember we lost a lot of these people with the thrashings we got last season. This was supposed to be the new dawn!?
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| Quote ="jaybs"Sadly it is looking more reality, the start we have had which are not easy teams to beat has not helped and will not bring in a thousand extra or more that we need, it well may be the last option and spin of the dice to make the last move of venue and it either works next time or not!'"
The rebrand is the last spin of the dice. If we can't grow crowds over next 2 seasons then we don't deserve a franchise.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"The rebrand is the last spin of the dice. If we can't grow crowds over next 2 seasons then we don't deserve a franchise.'"
What's saying that the RFL/Sky may assist with the ground move before the end of two seasons? even after this season.
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| Quote ="jaybs"What's saying that the RFL/Sky may assist with the ground move before the end of two seasons? even after this season.'"
Even if they did, do you think that would grow crowds ? The evidence of the past would suggest it would make no difference.
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| giants scorpio as a northern bloke based down here, and having followed the bronco's, quins, what over for the last 10 ish years, please accept my apology for the rude idiotic comment from Listy!
There are lots of reasons why we have such a poor away support, mainly due to finances and a lot to do with Fri night kick off, even sunday is rubbish, worse days to travel the M1 M5/M6 when you have work fri and Mon
At least you lot brought a couple of coach loads, I think last time we took a coach anywhere it broke down and they missed the game
Its our home support we need to worry about and not rely on away supporters and insulting those that do make the effort.
RL has always been a friendly sport where you can sit side by side with supporters of the other team, comment like cretin from Listy do nothing to foster that at London
FWIW I used to travel 100miles each way to home games, its changed a bit now and a little closer but public transport is not viable for me, but i always get there when i want
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Even if they did, do you think that would grow crowds ? The evidence of the past would suggest it would make no difference.'"
All I am saying is this could be the last throw of the dice! or do we play out the last two seasons at The Stoop, that is if the owners allow/want us & charge us a rent worth staying. It always disappoints me that David Hughes is often blamed for the situation we are in, without David we would not be here now anyway, do people seriously think he wants to throw his own savings away? it is always a dream of mine to be able to invest in the club in a major way, but not to just burn money! Some people may knock Gold & Sullivan at my footie team West Ham, but they are trying to run a tight ship, offers like kids for free on matches we would not sell out, not giving players stupid wages like the Icelandic owners did, many Premiership teams would like to have the 30,000 plus we attract regular.
First all I want to see from The London Broncos is to get a winning mentality, even if it is not attractive ruby at first. I was not happy when West Ham brought in Big Sam as manager, but his boring football may and should get us promoted, that is what counts. We need to be at least half way up the Super League and then put the money into marketing to bring in crowds to see a winning team that can complete.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"I'm having the heretical thought that the problem is David Hughes.'"
Thank God for that...I thought I was the only one who had these thoughts.....and I have had them since Ian Lenegan went to Wigan.
Firstly, I applaud and thank Mr Hughes for continuing to ensure that I have a club to support....there is no doubt that without his tireless and unshakable committment to the club and the game itself in the south, we would all be Skolars fans, but I have to say that I would much rather the club blood 3 more youngsters in the squad and take the salaries of 3 players such as Karl, Howell and Randall (who apparently have done nothing in the first 4 games to point to them being game changers) and spend it on Marketing and Promotion.
I have no evidence that Mr Hughes prevents marketing spend, or simply refuses to allocate sufficient budget for a decent campaign, but I have to say that since we moved to TW2 in 2006, we have had 4 CEO's, 3 Commercial Managers and 2 Marketing Managers and nothing has changed......during which time there has been 1 constant at the club.
To quote the Stranglers:
"Something's happening and it's happening right now
You're too blind to see it
Something's happening and it's happening right now
Ain't got time to wait
I said something better change"
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| I said it ages ago and got lambasted.
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| The North London derby being played at the same time, the problems with public transport getting to Twickenham and the team's 0% record this season are never going to help to push the attendance above the 2000 mark.
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| Quote ="jaybs"All I am saying is this could be the last throw of the dice! or do we play out the last two seasons at The Stoop, that is if the owners allow/want us & charge us a rent worth staying. It always disappoints me that David Hughes is often blamed for the situation we are in, without David we would not be here now anyway, do people seriously think he wants to throw his own savings away? it is always a dream of mine to be able to invest in the club in a major way, but not to just burn money! Some people may knock Gold & Sullivan at my footie team West Ham, but they are trying to run a tight ship, offers like kids for free on matches we would not sell out, not giving players stupid wages like the Icelandic owners did, many Premiership teams would like to have the 30,000 plus we attract regular.
First all I want to see from The London Broncos is to get a winning mentality, even if it is not attractive ruby at first. I was not happy when West Ham brought in Big Sam as manager, but his boring football may and should get us promoted, that is what counts. We need to be at least half way up the Super League and then put the money into marketing to bring in crowds to see a winning team that can complete.'"
Answer the question.
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| Quote ="@ShaunPalmer18"The North London derby being played at the same time, the problems with public transport getting to Twickenham and the team's 0% record this season are never going to help to push the attendance above the 2000 mark.'"
Sorry, but that is a set of excuses worthy of a 5yr old...all that was missing was "the dog ate my ticket"
1. The North London Derby would have little interest for anyone in West or South West London. It would have been watched by about 1,000,000 on Sky and 60,000 at the game......pretty big place London.
2. Public Transport is fine. Yes, a bit of engineering works is a pain in the butt, but, tubes ran to Richmond and all the bus routes in and out of Twickenham were as usual......I showed in another thread there were plenty of routes in and out of Twickenham for fans.....we just don't have enough fans.
3. 0% win rate is 0% win rate......this is still our team and as we have won absolutely Sweet Fanny Adams since we joined the Superleague, there is little or no room for fair weather fans.....if I only wanted to see my team win, then possible Widnes and Wakefield at home would be the 2 games I'd bother going to......being a London RL fans has little to do with "winning"
This incarnation of the club, we were informed, was the new begining, yet people who live withing 5 miles of the ground have gone on record as saying that there has been no activity to raise awareness in the immediate region.......Evening Standard, the clubs official media partner has no mention of the game on their site, neither has TNT, another "Sponsor"....as for best of Richmond, another sponsor, they don't even mention us in their directory........although our landlords to get a mention
[urlhttp://www.thebestof.co.uk/local/richmond/business-guide/popular/sport-fitness-and-leisure[/url
By all means excuse the club for it's failings that are out of its control, but don't use public transport, a soccer match across town and a slow start to the season as an excuse.......1,970 was a disgrace for the second outing for a "new" club.
In business, you speculate to accumulate.......time for someone to get the cheque book out and pay for some top level promotional activity.
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| Will you still have a club in the Championship?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Will you still have a club in the Championship?'"
Nope.....
DH has said he's offski in a few years and without either a viable business plan, sponsors and a fanbase of over 5k, the club will either fold or be propped up (as it should have been IMO) by SKY/News Int as is the case in Melbourne.
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