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| 10,000 is what they should be aiming for. But long term. Aim high and start getting attendences up, if they keep aiming high then there will be success.
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| So anything significantly less than 10k in 3 years and GM should be resigning as he and the club will have failed. Why not set a realistic target of 6 or 7k, hopefully celebrate success with that, while at the same time focusing attention on other revenue streams, if the club cannot be sustainable on these crowds?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister" while at the same time focusing attention on other revenue streams, if the club cannot be sustainable on these crowds?'"
Can you please expand on these other revenue streams? are we not restricted being a tenant and also that we seem to draw our supporters from a large coverage area? the only one I see is merchandise, but I think that we need to see what it is really going to be like rather than mostly drawings and pro shop illustrations. I do think we now have a brand we can sell and especially in this Olympic year but will we have the right product and be able to target visitors? as well as supporters throughout the rugby world who buy club shirts? I do hope so.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Can you please expand on these other revenue streams? are we not restricted being a tenant and also that we seem to draw our supporters from a large coverage area? the only one I see is merchandise, but I think that we need to see what it is really going to be like rather than mostly drawings and pro shop illustrations. I do think we now have a brand we can sell and especially in this Olympic year but will we have the right product and be able to target visitors? as well as supporters throughout the rugby world who buy club shirts? I do hope so.'"
If you cannot sell merchandise this year with London on it ( Olympics, Jubillee) then you probably never will. Pity the club couldn't afford a club shop on Oxford street.
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| Dave your posts are getting further and further ahead of time. Really weird seeing responses hours before the questions are asked.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"So anything significantly less than 10k in 3 years and GM should be resigning as he and the club will have failed. Why not set a realistic target of 6 or 7k, hopefully celebrate success with that, while at the same time focusing attention on other revenue streams, if the club cannot be sustainable on these crowds?'"
That 3 year time-frame has come from you, not him. We don't know what the 3-year target is.
I think that long-term, beyond 3 years, we should be aiming for 10,000 as I don't see any real point in having a SL club in the capital which appeals to only a small niche spectator base. If we want to be noticed, we have to attract significant attendances.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"That 3 year time-frame has come from you, not him. We don't know what the 3-year target is.
I think that long-term, beyond 3 years, we should be aiming for 10,000 as I don't see any real point in having a SL club in the capital which appeals to only a small niche spectator base. If we want to be noticed, we have to attract significant attendances.'"
I am sure GM said at the forum 40% increases year on year were achieveable.
If that was from say 1500 season tickets
year 1 would be 600
year 2 would be 840
year 3 would be 1176
total 2616 plus starting base 1500 gives home season tickets fanbase as 4116. I for one would think that would be good and give further encouragement for the next franchise 3 year period. You could expect very good crowds from certain Northern teams with their excellent followings. Hope Gutterfax is asleep
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| Quote ="jaybs" I do think we now have a brand we can sell.'"
Ah... In that case what would you consider the brand 'Harlequins'. I know it's all in the past and probably gone forever but that name was known world-wide. So, what went wrong that's going to be different this time?
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| Harlequins is the name of another sports team playing another game although very similar
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| Quote ="Boyne"Ah... In that case what would you consider the brand 'Harlequins'. I know it's all in the past and probably gone forever but that name was known world-wide. So, what went wrong that's going to be different this time?'"
I think Wire-Quin sums it up very simple but at the same time most precise!
"[iHarlequins is the name of another sports team playing another game although very similar[/i"
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| I was reading between the lines when I stated that I believe 10k, considering it was mentioned alongside licence obligations which will all be 3 year obligations. Even if that isn't the case, which I still believe it is, then why not publicise the short term aims instead? Correctly, the club are aiming for playoffs in each of the next 3 seasons. If he was talking long term than his aim would also rightly be turning the club into title contenders.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Quote ="Dave Lister" while at the same time focusing attention on other revenue streams, if the club cannot be sustainable on these crowds?'"
Can you please expand on these other revenue streams? are we not restricted being a tenant and also that we seem to draw our supporters from a large coverage area? the only one I see is merchandise, but I think that we need to see what it is really going to be like rather than mostly drawings and pro shop illustrations. I do think we now have a brand we can sell and especially in this Olympic year but will we have the right product and be able to target visitors? as well as supporters throughout the rugby world who buy club shirts? I do hope so.'"
A bloody first team shirt sponsor for starters.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I think Wire-Quin sums it up very simple but at the same time most precise!
"[iHarlequins is the name of another sports team playing another game although very similar[/i"'"
I think the point Boyne was trying to make is that the club's inability to sell is probably a bigger factor than our name.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I think the point Boyne was trying to make is that the club's inability to sell is probably a bigger factor than our name.'"
Perhaps so, but a majority did feel the club name did not help and failed!
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| Quote ="jaybs"Perhaps so, but a majority did feel the club name did not help and failed!'"
They weren't asked if there were bigger issues.
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| Quote ="wire quin"Harlequins is the name of another sports team playing another game although very similar'"
This is correct, but the key-word was 'brand'. Heinz is a 'brand'. They sell baked beans. But they also sell spaghetti, tomato sauce, treacle pudding and stuff. McDonalds is a brand. They sell hamburgers and stuff. In your average high street, would you buy a 'McDonalds' or, for example, a 'Broncoburger'? Given the choice
I think most people would favour the known brand.
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| Big article in this months Rugby League World which includes an interview with GM and compare it with one with Paul Blanchard which was never published as he left. A few threads on here have meandered a bit and the following quotes could be put into many of them.
"I'm not saying we will have 10,000 people every game next season but I think we'll take steps towards that."
"We've also made structural changes. We have up to 15 football department staff and eight in admin - three more than a few months ago"
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"A bloody first team shirt sponsor for starters.'"
[size=150'hello..is that the sponsorship department at Fullers"?[/size
Yes
[size=150"great, I was wondering if you'd be interested in sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
London Broncos, what do they play?
[size=150"Rugby League"[/size
Oh, are they in the Engage Super League?
[size=150"no, they are in the Super League.....Engage no longer sponsor the comp....in fact, nobody does, but that's not important. So, about sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
How many people watch them play?
[size=150"about 3,000 at home and 8,000 away, so about 144,000 all season, plus 2 games on Sky TV as well"[/size
So, you want to know if we would be interested in sponsoring a team with no fans that plays in a league with no major sponsor?
[size=150"Yes"[/size
Queue dial tone.......
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| I can't wait to be at the first game with a beer in hand surrounded by RL fans. Really missed it. Prefer it when Spring arrives but so be it. Also looking forward to the otr games. I actually feel it strengthens our independence and identity in a strange way. Hope Orient take a liking to the game and we can form a long term relationship which was never going to happen with quins.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"[size=150'hello..is that the sponsorship department at Fullers"?[/size
Yes
[size=150"great, I was wondering if you'd be interested in sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
London Broncos, what do they play?
[size=150"Rugby League"[/size
Oh, are they in the Engage Super League?
[size=150"no, they are in the Super League.....Engage no longer sponsor the comp....in fact, nobody does, but that's not important. So, about sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
How many people watch them play?
[size=150"about 3,000 at home and 8,000 away, so about 144,000 all season, plus 2 games on Sky TV as well"[/size
So, you want to know if we would be interested in sponsoring a team with no fans that plays in a league with no major sponsor?
[size=150"Yes"[/size
Queue dial tone.......'"
Embarrassing post. I'm not even going to waste my time disproving every point you have attempted to make there. You are becoming worse than Darthchris in posting complete nonsense when you know a lot better.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"A bloody first team shirt sponsor for starters.'"
I completely agree! but we are not privy to what state discussions may or not be at, it is just this season everything seems slower than ever.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"[size=150'hello..is that the sponsorship department at Fullers"?[/size
Yes
[size=150"great, I was wondering if you'd be interested in sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
London Broncos, what do they play?
[size=150"Rugby League"[/size
Oh, are they in the Engage Super League?
[size=150"no, they are in the Super League.....Engage no longer sponsor the comp....in fact, nobody does, but that's not important. So, about sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
How many people watch them play?
[size=150"about 3,000 at home and 8,000 away, so about 144,000 all season, plus 2 games on Sky TV as well"[/size
So, you want to know if we would be interested in sponsoring a team with no fans that plays in a league with no major sponsor?
[size=150"Yes"[/size
Queue dial tone.......'"
I thought it was rather amusing. In a warped kind of way, but amusing nonetheless.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"[size=150'hello..is that the sponsorship department at Fullers"?[/size
Yes
[size=150"great, I was wondering if you'd be interested in sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
London Broncos, what do they play?
[size=150"Rugby League"[/size
Oh, are they in the Engage Super League?
[size=150"no, they are in the Super League.....Engage no longer sponsor the comp....in fact, nobody does, but that's not important. So, about sponsoring the London Broncos"?[/size
How many people watch them play?
[size=150"about 3,000 at home and 8,000 away, so about 144,000 all season, plus 2 games on Sky TV as well"[/size
So, you want to know if we would be interested in sponsoring a team with no fans that plays in a league with no major sponsor?
[size=150"Yes"[/size
Queue dial tone.......'"
Perhaps a few may find it "amusing" more a waste of time and space!
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| Quote ="jaybs"Perhaps a few may find it "amusing" more a waste of time and space!'"
I won't lose any sleep either way...the point is that the game itself has trouble with getting a sponsor, so a small team outside the heartlands with very few fans is hardly going to have people begging to put their logo on our shirts, are they?
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| Why on earth would any major company want to sponsor us?
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