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| Quote ="PC Plum"I really hope he does the business but I can't help feel it's a question of how long before he is sacked or a director of rugby is employed.'"
That can't be the attitude that Hughes takes and knowing his recent track record I would have thought it isn't. If we're going to go down this route, Powell deserves the same time McDermott was afforded in order to give the job a fair crack. IMO, that's at least a season and possibly two.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Oops. Anyone care to bet on us NOT finishing bottom next season?'"
I will take that bet now. Cas, Wakey and Crusaders all look shaky and if we get a good start I think we will be OK. We need a couple more quality players but if we avoid injury to the key players we should be do OK. We have no cash so we can't really expect much better.
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| Oh well have to be honest and it wouldnt have been my first choice as head coach,just like a few others on here. thats only down to his age and lack of experience.
But now he is i wish him the best of luck. At least he has the backing of the senior players in the squad so that has to be a start. I'm sure DH wouldnt have gone down this road (even if are cash stapped) if he didnt think the players would be happy with RP at the helm he wouldnt have given him the job and looked else where.
So now its over with, lets move on and hope we get to hear of at least a couple more signing very soon, either loaners or perm signings. Like been said a few times we have amix of youth and experience,so some more players with experience would be a good thing and im sure help RP in a lot of ways
funny now things went quiet on Anthony Cherrington from the Roosters. and the Wigan loaners (did hear we could take Josh Charnley).Stil perfer us to made a bid on Monaghan.
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| Quote ="poplar panther"I will take that bet now. Cas, Wakey and Crusaders all look shaky and if we get a good start I think we will be OK. We need a couple more quality players but if we avoid injury to the key players we should be do OK. We have no cash so we can't really expect much better.'"
On the business of 'No cash' didn't some posters indicate that there were investors out there but they wouldn't come forward as long as Lenaghan was the major shareholder. Well, now that he has handed over his shares, where are these people?
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| Quote ="Snoopy"On the business of 'No cash' didn't some posters indicate that there were investors out there but they wouldn't come forward as long as Lenaghan was the major shareholder. Well, now that he has handed over his shares, where are these people?'"
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| So we know who it is now. The conjecture is over. Now is the time to get behind him and the team. This is a young BRITISH coach and we need to support him. I wish him the best of luck.
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| Enough of the platitudes and `good luck` messages, this is a truly woeful appointment.
Let`s not lose sight of the fact that he was BM`s ASSISTANT over a pretty lack lustre period for the club..........Are we to believe that he has been some remarkable talent in waiting but was held back by BM?...........No, despite the positive spin the club have tried to put on the announcement he is a very young coach, still learning his trade and without a distinguished track record.
At a time in the club`s development when we really needed a high profile, experienced coach to improve our performance both on and off the field, we come up with the easy/cheap option......or as some might say we are of so little worth that nobody of note was interested.
So much for DH`s `onward and upwards` speech, this appointment shows what little ambition the club has and the fact that top flight RL in London is well and truly on its backside!!!
No doubt today`s announcement will be followed shortly by equally underwhelming announcements concerning new players........or more likely the promotion of a few U20/U18`s to the first team squad as that is a nice cheap option.
Expectations for next season are now well and truly deflated, god knows what the impact will be on ticket/season ticket sales.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"So we know who it is now. The conjecture is over. Now is the time to get behind him and the team. This is a young BRITISH coach and we need to support him. I wish him the best of luck.'"
Agree with all of that except the emphasis on the BRITISH - I'm not convinced that's a positive.
From where I sit he wouldn't have been first choice but "He who pays the piper ...", so I see no point in arguing with the chairman's decision, though I can't enthuse over it.
From the piece on the club site:
- Our 2 new Aussies aren't here yet. Why and when will they be?
- Quote throughout this period we have also been able to monitor Rob's performance in the role which has been excellent. He has the full backing of the players and has been integral in the re-signing and recruitment of the 2011 squad, which will be completed shortly.'"
* So Powell HAS been on trial.
* squad to be completed "shortly" - seems a tall order, still at least 4 vacancies.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Enough of the platitudes and `good luck` messages, this is a truly woeful appointment.
Let`s not lose sight of the fact that he was BM`s ASSISTANT over a pretty lack lustre period for the club..........Are we to believe that he has been some remarkable talent in waiting but was held back by BM?...........No, despite the positive spin the club have tried to put on the announcement he is a very young coach, still learning his trade and without a distinguished track record.
At a time in the club`s development when we really needed a high profile, experienced coach to improve our performance both on and off the field, we come up with the easy/cheap option......or as some might say we are of so little worth that nobody of note was interested.
So much for DH`s `onward and upwards` speech, this appointment shows what little ambition the club has and the fact that top flight RL in London is well and truly on its backside!!!
No doubt today`s announcement will be followed shortly by equally underwhelming announcements concerning new players........or more likely the promotion of a few U20/U18`s to the first team squad as that is a nice cheap option.
Expectations for next season are now well and truly deflated, god knows what the impact will be on ticket/season ticket sales.'"
As he's not online atm I'll briefly say this sums up Lister's sentiments as well (thought you'd all like to know )
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| Lets be positive....last season we were shocking and that was with the man now in charge of Leeds. We need to give Rob Powell a chance to do things....on last years showing the only way is up, so there isn't too much pressure in that respect on him. The only way he'll gain experience is by being given the Head Coach role...he's been assistant for 4 years, now he has the chance to step up and prove himself.
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| Also, David Hughes in his comments mentions that the full squad will be completed shortly.....does this mean the 2 Aussies joining the squad shortly or that more numbers will be added shortly?? I'm hoping its the latter....as we'll struggle to field a team at present when we're hit with a few injuries!
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| Two year deal, is that a good thing in saying he is more than the temporary interim acting head coach, or is there the feeling that the man truly deserves the opportunity. Not knowing the guy I cannot say whether he was a McDermott acolyte. I honestly don't know whether I feel good or bad over the length of the deal, on the one hand it does give the stability, but it seems to be stability that seems to say we are happy with gates of 3500 and are on target for our five year financial meltdown. I would have been happier for a one year deal and the chairman to come out and say earn the chance to renew your deal from 2012, and look to see if there is someone who can take us forwards if we have another disappointing season. Regardless of the length of contract he could be moved back to an assistant coach role if he fails completely as stated by other posters, he does appear to be the cheap option.
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| Quote ="Hear Ye!"Also, David Hughes in his comments mentions that the full squad will be completed shortly.....does this mean the 2 Aussies joining the squad shortly or that more numbers will be added shortly?? I'm hoping its the latter....as we'll struggle to field a team at present when we're hit with a few injuries!'"
He says: "... the re-signing and recruitment of the 2011 squad, which will be completed shortly.", so it is the latter.
Today's Guardian says "Rob Purdham will continue as captain and the club are expected to make =#FF0000a couple of British signings to add to Chris Bailey and Nick Kouparitsas, two Australians who have already been recruited for 2011."
=#FF0000Oh dear, I hope that's not the end of our recruitment.
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| Too much negativity. This is a potentially good appointment. Why would we want to participate in the merry-go-round of failed British coaches with "experience" ? After all, people like Jon Sharp have had their talent rather cruelly highlighted by the difference in performance at Huddersfield when Brown arrived. Likewise some of the other names bandied around here. They all have a track record of failing to deliver success at previous clubs. There's no law that says the coaching world has to be a closed shop and nobody else is allowed in. Also, it's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine that clubs automatically assume that top level coaches have to have been top level players. There's no reason why that's the case. In fact, anyone who knows many top-level RL pros might find themselves questioning that assumption quite vigorously.
Powell is young, innovative and untried. He's also, without a doubt, cheap, and if anyone thinks that shouldn't be a consideration, you need to open your eyes to the position we're in. Quins have got a very weak squad, compared to most other SL teams, and that probably explains why the likes of Noble couldn't be tempted even out of unemployment to come down. So there's no rational point to spending big bucks on a tried and tested [and failed coach, because even Wayne Bennett would have a bit of a task trying to get Quins out of the bottom four next year.
This is good thinking. Powell will be able to hold the fort cheaply while more young London players emerge, and in the meantime, he may well surprise a few people.
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Quote ="BroncOnIon"He says: "... the re-signing and recruitment of the 2011 squad, which will be completed shortly.", so it is the latter.
Today's Guardian says "Rob Purdham will continue as captain and the club are expected to make =#FF0000a couple of British signings to add to Chris Bailey and Nick Kouparitsas, two Australians who have already been recruited for 2011."
=#FF0000Oh dear, I hope that's not the end of our recruitment.'"
www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/no ... ague-coach
Harlequins have appointed Rob Powell as their new coach, a decision that can be interpreted either as another indication of the London club's problems, or as further evidence of the low-profile progress being made in the development of the game in capital.
Andy Wilson making the point I wanted to make in a very succinct journalistic way.
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Quote ="BroncOnIon"He says: "... the re-signing and recruitment of the 2011 squad, which will be completed shortly.", so it is the latter.
Today's Guardian says "Rob Purdham will continue as captain and the club are expected to make =#FF0000a couple of British signings to add to Chris Bailey and Nick Kouparitsas, two Australians who have already been recruited for 2011."
=#FF0000Oh dear, I hope that's not the end of our recruitment.'"
www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/no ... ague-coach
Harlequins have appointed Rob Powell as their new coach, a decision that can be interpreted either as another indication of the London club's problems, or as further evidence of the low-profile progress being made in the development of the game in capital.
Andy Wilson making the point I wanted to make in a very succinct journalistic way.
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| Clearly our BIG announcement has sent ripples of expectation and fear through the RL community.........normally the most trivial bit of news can expect to spark a load of comment across rlfans message boards, but as a of a few moments ago there were only 3 postings and all on the Warrington board. Comments range from `who is he?`.....`never heard of him`.......and `Quins are taking a bit of a chance on an unknown`.
Do these people not know of our new leaders distinguished pedigree and long track record at both domestic and international level.........high time the marketing department kicked into gear and pushed out some positive messages on Facebook.
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| Quote ="Snoopy"On the business of 'No cash' didn't some posters indicate that there were investors out there but they wouldn't come forward as long as Lenaghan was the major shareholder. Well, now that =#BF0000he has handed over his shares, where are these people?'"
=#BF0000Has he?
DH's statement said Quote As supporters may be aware, I currently own 35% of The Club but provide 100% of the funding for the losses which have been substantial over the past 2 years and we asked the RFL to help find a solution to this current situation which was unsustainable
They have helped find a solution that =#FF0000will shortly allow me to take ownership of 100% of the shares in The Club.'"
It's that word "shortly" again. I don't know if that's happened.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Too much negativity.
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Mmm. Maybe some good reason for the negativity. You are not exactly filling me with positivity and optimism with some of your own comments.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"This is good thinking. Powell will be able to hold the fort cheaply while more young London players emerge, and in the meantime, he may well surprise a few people.'"
Surely its the worst thing in the world to be considered a stop-gap. If its true we approached Daryll Powell and Aston first, that means Rob Powell was 3rd choice. Him signing a two-year deal might give people the impression that he's simply a holding figure until someone more established declares an interest.
If you're going to appoint someone like Rob Powell, you make him your first choice, you back him and you give him time. Let's hope he's given that.
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| I didn't phrase that well. I didn't mean he was holding the fort until a better coach came along, I meant that he was holding the fort until we can produce a better team !
I am fairly negative about Quins chances next year because of the weak squad. But I think Powell has got as much of a chance of getting the best out of them as anyone, in fact, given the fairly consistent failure of the usual suspects on the coaching carousel, he may well have a better chance.
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| Quote ="Londo06"Harlequins have appointed Rob Powell as their new coach, a decision that can be interpreted either as another indication of the London club's problems, or as further evidence of the low-profile progress being made in the development of the game in capital.
Andy Wilson making the point I wanted to make in a very succinct journalistic way.'"
Typically of Wilson, even if it can be considered to be progress, he puts a negative spin on it that development in London is "low-profile". Surprised he doesn't include "I'm not anti-expansionist but" in the sentence.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Clearly our BIG announcement has sent ripples of expectation and fear through the RL community.........normally the most trivial bit of news can expect to spark a load of comment across rlfans message boards, but as a of a few moments ago there were only 3 postings and all on the Warrington board. Comments range from `who is he?`.....`never heard of him`.......and `Quins are taking a bit of a chance on an unknown`.
Do these people not know of our new leaders distinguished pedigree and long track record at both domestic and international level.........high time the marketing department kicked into gear and pushed out some positive messages on Facebook.'"
Clearly we should be appointing our coach based on whether or not people ion Warrington have heard of him. I'm sure they had heard of James Lowes. Bet they wish they hadn't.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Too much negativity. This is a potentially good appointment. Why would we want to participate in the merry-go-round of failed British coaches with "experience" ? After all, people like [uJon Sharp have had their talent rather cruelly[/u highlighted by the difference in performance at Huddersfield when Brown arrived. .'"
Ironically Sharp struggled when he was given more quality players. If Quins have a full cap and plenty of quality players then he is probably not your man.
However Sharp took an okay squad to a CC Final and 5th in SL in consecutive years. I think many Quins fans would settle for such limited talent.
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| Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"Typically of Wilson, even if it can be considered to be progress, he puts a negative spin on it that development in London is "low-profile". Surprised he doesn't include "I'm not anti-expansionist but" in the sentence.'"
Not sure what you're getting at there, think it was quite a fair assessment tbh and the comments in this thread would appear to agree with him.
Has anyone listened to the clip of Powell on the BBC Sport website? Can't get it at work. How did he come across? Good media performer? Might make a refreshing change from McDermott's brand of bolshy nonsense.
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| Quote ="The Penguin"Not sure what you're getting at there, think it was quite a fair assessment tbh and the comments in this thread would appear to agree with him.'"
If he said it was a low profile appointment I wouldn't disagree. The fact that he says development in London is low profile is nonsense as surely there cannot be many people in the game unaware of the spread of the amateur game and the production of good level southern RL players. If he means in the country as a whole, there can be few things about rugby league that aren't low profile!
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