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| I'd continue going to all home games and a few away games, same as now
I'm a rugby league fan first, and a Harlequins fan second
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| Quote ="Catalancs"What kind of fan dumps their club because they get relegated?'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"If Harlequins RL don't get a SL licence it will be because they don't satisfy the required criteria.
Why should rugby league as a sport deserve to suffer because one club hasn't satisfied said criteria over the course of three years?'"
Don't believe for a second that we want it to suffer, but it is a likely consequence were London to lose it's SL position. Not being biased, just being realistic. Definitely would not want either situation to arise.
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"Wow , i didnt realise quins were that important, mebbe the RFL should give you a bye to the grand final just to appease you.
get real, the game will survive with or without you, I prefer with you but not at the cost of bailing you out again'"
When have you bailed us out.
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| Quote ="Londo06"When have you bailed us out.'"
The RFL have bailed you out several times, how many more do you want .................................. the Game cant afford 2 clubs with the begging bowls out and they seem to prefer their new pets , the welsh, so you may have to stand on your own and make a go of it............................................... thatll be the end of quins if theres no more aid
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| i'd continue to go to all home games
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Because you seem to have far too much enthusiasm and far too many ideas to stay sat behind a computer. I know you get knocked quite a bit on here, but I'd be very surprised if the club couldn't take at least a couple of your ideas and put them into practice.'"
....Now, this is where it gets tricky. Without alerting the " ego" police, check your PM
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Because you seem to have far too much enthusiasm and far too many ideas to stay sat behind a computer. I know you get knocked quite a bit on here, but I'd be very surprised if the club couldn't take at least a couple of your ideas and put them into practice.'"
Oh no you've fed him
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"The RFL have bailed you out several times, '"
Oh no they haven't. Not even once in fact.
(Note: "FACT".)
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"The RFL have bailed you out several times, how many more do you want .................................. '"
Amounts, Dates ???......do you have them, can you prove your statement...???? No of course you can't, you are just another northerner who's getting bored towards the end of the season and you are plucking statements out of nowhere with no proof or foundation behind them. Perhaps you should do something a little bit more constructive with your time instead of trolling us.
Psst............the latest rumour is .........................
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Oh no you've fed him
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No........I decided to PM my response less the ego police jumped all over it. Tell you what though, I started a genuine poll with the intention of getting an idea of how the fans HERE would react if the step down had to be made, but you seem more pre-occupied with my ego than you do with the current malaise at TW2 Towers...........very odd reaction from you PP.
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| ODD You say. obviously You have not seen Paddock lately in His match day garb
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| Quote ="Fan50"Amounts, Dates ???......do you have them, can you prove your statement...???? No of course you can't, you are just another northerner who's getting bored towards the end of the season and you are plucking statements out of nowhere with no proof or foundation behind them. Perhaps you should do something a little bit more constructive with your time instead of trolling us.
Psst............the latest rumour is .........................'"
On your last name/venue change and the lack of funds, do you think it was the truth fairy that bent the superleague rules to keep you in there, thr rule was (and still is for heartland clubs) that a club must be financially able to support itself to remain in the league, you couldnt till the RFL bent the rules and divvied up some cash...................... dont let the truth upset you so much
Your club is playing the failing game for another leg up and its a joke that they are allowed to do so
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"On your last name/venue change and the lack of funds, do you think it was the truth fairy that bent the superleague rules to keep you in there, thr rule was (and still is for heartland clubs) that a club must be financially able to support itself to remain in the league, you couldnt till the RFL bent the rules and divvied up some cash...................... dont let the truth upset you so much
Your club is playing the failing game for another leg up and its a joke that they are allowed to do so'"
We are probably the most financially sound club in Super League. Come licence application time we will retain our SL licence, and yes unfortunately Wakefield or Cas may suffer as a result of that.....because expansion will continue. The joke actually is morons like you who live in that bubble called the M62/Heartlands corridor who can see no further than their own noses. Go get a life and annoy someone else....
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| Quote ="Fan50"We are probably the most financially sound club in Super League. Come licence application time we will retain our SL licence, and yes unfortunately Wakefield or Cas may suffer as a result of that.....because expansion will continue. The joke actually is morons like you who live in that bubble called the M62/Heartlands corridor who can see no further than their own noses. Go get a life and annoy someone else....'"
ooooh did the facts that you asked for offend you, truth is with your massive following you are still a drain on every other club in Superleague
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"ooooh did the facts that you asked for offend you, truth is with your massive following you are still a drain on every other club in Superleague'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Pot, kettle, black'"
You'll probably have to explain that to him.....he seems to have trouble putting two words together let alone three
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"On your last name/venue change and the lack of funds, do you think it was the truth fairy that bent the superleague rules to keep you in there,'"
er...there were no rules to be bent. The rules on what would happen to a club if they went under came about after the 2005 London Broncos implosion. So, there was no bending of rules.........RFL or Superleague rules.
Quote ="ambernotyeller"thr rule was (and still is for heartland clubs) that a club must be financially able to support itself to remain in the league, '" .....see above. Wrong on pretty much every level TBH. The rules came into being AFTER London were voted back in by the SL Chairmen.
Quote ="ambernotyeller"you couldnt till the RFL bent the rules '" ...see above and above that........
Quote ="ambernotyeller"and divvied up some cash...................... '" If I had a quid for every one of you fc90cking northern trolls who spouts this shi7 with no proof, no links to published accounts or any other form of evidence I'd probably have a grand in the bank. As it is, you are worse than a northern troll because you are just on a wind up. I owned you on the cas board sunshine and I have just buried your "argument" here....jog on and play with your mates under whatever bridge it is you live under
Quote ="ambernotyeller"dont let the truth upset you so much'" ...the day you print the truth I'll be stunned, let alone upset
Quote ="ambernotyeller"Your club is playing the failing game '" ..no, the club play Rugby League.....
Quote ="ambernotyeller"for another leg up '" repeating it doesn't make it fact.......but carry on if it makes you feel better...it only makes you look more idiotic than you are (IF THAT'S POSSIBLE)
Quote ="ambernotyeller"and its a joke that they are allowed to do so'" ...allowed to do what? The Chairman has stated he is rethinking his investment levels in the club. Surely he is allowed to do that? If you are referring to the article where our soon to be ex-coach says that decisions have to be made at the top level.......I suggest you re-read his post match comments this season....ANYTHING he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Now my little northern troll.....unless you can reply with factual (this means links to real stories, or published articles) can I suggest you stay away. As trolls go, you really aren't up to much
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| Quote ="gutterfax"er...there were no rules to be bent. The rules on what would happen to a club if they went under came about after the 2005 London Broncos implosion. So, there was no bending of rules.........RFL or Superleague rules.
.....see above. Wrong on pretty much every level TBH. The rules came into being AFTER London were voted back in by the SL Chairmen.
...see above and above that........
If I had a quid for every one of you fc90cking northern trolls who spouts this shi7 with no proof, no links to published accounts or any other form of evidence I'd probably have a grand in the bank. As it is, you are worse than a northern troll because you are just on a wind up. I owned you on the cas board sunshine and I have just buried your "argument" here....jog on and play with your mates under whatever bridge it is you live under
...the day you print the truth I'll be stunned, let alone upset
..no, the club play Rugby League.....
repeating it doesn't make it fact.......but carry on if it makes you feel better...it only makes you look more idiotic than you are (IF THAT'S POSSIBLE)
...allowed to do what? The Chairman has stated he is rethinking his investment levels in the club. Surely he is allowed to do that? If you are referring to the article where our soon to be ex-coach says that decisions have to be made at the top level.......I suggest you re-read his post match comments this season....ANYTHING he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Now my little northern troll.....unless you can reply with factual (this means links to real stories, or published articles) can I suggest you stay away. As trolls go, you really aren't up to much
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| Quote ="Speedy"Another failed medical experiment talking out of his ar$e,'"
This from a child who calls us "Quims".....do you laugh at Seaside Postcards as well.
As it goes pal....if anyone is being a c()nt...it's you. Now jog off back to your bridge and play with your lego bricks....you may even win the competition to design your new stadium.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"wrong. ... that lack of fans is down to little or no marketing before 2010 and ham fisted attempts this year. Not fantasy...just facts.'"
Wrong. That's opinion, not fact. Fact is when two events are causally related not coincident.
I repeat, marketing is no magic bullet. For it to succeed you need a product to market and a population pre-disposed to the message. DH needs help with the former. Now. Any distraction from that point does the club a disservice.
You make a good point about Sky a la Melbourne Storm. Nice idea.
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"The RFL have bailed you out several times, how many more do you want .................................. the Game cant afford 2 clubs with the begging bowls out and they seem to prefer their new pets , the welsh, so you may have to stand on your own and make a go of it............................................... thatll be the end of quins if theres no more aid'"
Yes, it's true the RFL bunged us 2 million quid, cos they had that just lying around on the sideboard, they were going to spend it on pop and crisps but we needed it more. Other things I can confirm are also true for you: Elvis isn't dead, but Paul McCartney is, Lord Lucan hoaxed the moon landings, and the earth is flat because Shergar fell off the side. So now you know.
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| Quote ="joeo"Wrong. That's opinion, not fact. Fact is when two events are causally related not coincident.'"
The simple matter of FACT is that Quins RL find themselves in a situation where the minority shareholder is having to "invest" 1.5 million a year to prop up the club. This is because the majority shareholder now owns Wigan and is not permitted to help.
1.5 million, using the majority shareholders calculations of appx 10 quid in income per ticket sold and the fact that the last set of accounts pointed to another 10 quid per head per game in revenue means that 75,000 extra fans a year would have negated the need for the minority shareholder to put pen to cheque book.
Fact is....and it is a fact, Harlequins Rugby League have nobody but themselves to blame for their current situation. They have never attempted any worthwhile marketing activity...they stumble from game to trying to attract fans through offers at the last minute to ST holders.....IF the club had any form of marketing plan then it would be able to identify where the 800 missing fans from 2006 have gone and who they are. I repeat....5,000 oyster card holders and a viral campaign seen by less than 5,000 people does not constitute a marketing campaign. Neither does getting a crowd less than the average for a visit of St Helens and than claiming that the Double Header was a success in the RL Press......Marketing is the key. Regardless of how crap the team are at present....we haven't even had people turn up to have a look.........
Quote ="joeo"I repeat, marketing is no magic bullet. '" never said it was, but at least it needs to be part of your armoury....
Quote ="joeo"For it to succeed you need a product to market'" product is there.
Quote ="joeo"and a population pre-disposed to the message.'" According to the RFL and their extensive research, there are 1,000,000 people in the London area with an interest in League.......that's a fair few pre-disposed targets.
Quote ="joeo"DH needs help with the former. '" Not saying he doesn't, but this PROBLEM could have been a lot less taxing if the club had a PLAN rather than the adhoc nature of anything and everything they do....
Quote ="joeo"Now. Any distraction from that point does the club a disservice. '" B0ll0x........the entire club, from top to bottom needs an overhaul. Who the f()ck is going to ride to the rescue of a company shipping 30k a week with no business plan, no marketing plan and nothing going for it apart from a few kids coming through and buckets of un-tapped potential? That's 6 grand a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks of the year. Where the hell is that going? If I had the money and as much as I am a supporter of the club...I think my financial advisor (and my wife) would have me comitted if I tried to invest in the club.
Quote ="joeo"You make a good point about Sky a la Melbourne Storm. Nice idea.'" .......let's hope Rupert reads these boards
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| I think relegation would be good for us.
It would sift out all the deadwood fans and leave the club with fewer but far hungrier supporters who would put their all into the club.
It would give us a bit more time to bring through our youngsters and if we could return to SL quickly we would be in a strong position to push on from there ( just look at what Quins yawnion achieved)
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| Quote ="Darthchris"I think relegation would be good for us.'" ....3 years ago I would have laughed at you.....but sadly I now tend to agree with you.
Quote ="Darthchris"It would sift out all the deadwood fans and leave the club with fewer but far hungrier supporters who would put their all into the club.'" . The Club HAD hungrier supporters and lost them (or at least broke their spirit and willingness to help) and we can't afford to lose any fans, whatever division we are in.
Quote ="Darthchris"It would give us a bit more time to bring through our youngsters and if we could return to SL quickly we would be in a strong position to push on from there ( just look at what Quins yawnion achieved)'"
Agree.....but a "quick return" isn't bolted on. There is a risk of the game moving ahead of us and QuinsRL or whatever we would be called never getting back to the top table
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