Should my team Leigh Centurions re-locate to Ipswich ????

answers on a postcard............

Sorry forgot "Rugby League is a local sport for local people". Are you League Express "Ranter at the Naysayers" Phil Hodgson in disguise??



The same as many SL clubs. An owner with deep pockets............. Q. How much is KR's overdraft at the bank??




Another "M62 only members should play Rugby League" porky peddled in the northern pubs, clubs and League Express to justify the myopic "rugby league is a local sport for local people" mantra that is entrenched in the North.





What utter nonsense......................

Not strictly true. The Wakefield chairman is in IVA whilst he fights a legal challenge to some land deal that went south and left him with "cash flow" issues.

No but they still need to meet the criteria to enter SL, which they currently don't.

Fair dinkum. Doesn't fill anyone with confidence to say that the chairman of the club is experiencing financial difficulties while the club is attempting to get plans for a stadium going. I remember last year they club won a 3 month reprieve from winding up moves brought by HMRC at the High Court in London. But it would be untrue to say the IVA had anything to do with the rugby league club, as you say it was a personal deal, nothing to do with club. I don't know the structure of the Wakefield club; ie owner, benefactors, etc so I cannot say that they are or aren't a financially sound club when viewed as a Super League entity.

Remind me, how much debt is Hull KR in? £3 million at the last count. Your chairman claimed you need a 10,000 average to break even, and looking at your average crowds you're obviously going to lose more money this year. Let's see how long it takes for your team of Australians to send you broke.

RUGBY LEAGUE, IS NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE - OFFICIALLY F***ED !

Wakefield and Castleford remain in limbo as they bid to push on with their own individual projects amid council calls for a more viable groundshare option. Fans of [size=150Harlequins, who continue to struggle for crowds[/size, and Crusaders will not be resting easy either.

I hate this whole system. Neither Wakefield or Castleford deserve to be booted out, and kicking us out is only suggested by the ignorant.

I reckon last minute the RFL will bottle it and go to 15 or 16 clubs. Then really tighten the franchise process so that every 3 years one will go only if a sensational franchise is forthcoming from some wealthy backed club.

Without the continued financial support of their sugar daddies most professional sports clubs of whatever sport wouldn't be in existance. My own football club has "loans" of £8million from the owner. And were still ing about in League 1 this coming season.

Dave, it wouldn't be such a big deal if it was relegation. Some teams will NEVER get to compete at the highest level, at least Quins will always be in Super League, because it's London RLFC. I imagine Wakefield/Cas/Salford will se this as a potential 'death knell', but everyone apart from Widnes (in the championship divisions) it's just an ongoing situation.
You have to be a realist, and accept Sky Super League is about expansion. That's just the way it is. See you guys in 2036 ?

It's very depressing, but Quins really don't deserve to be in Super League.

If we do remain then something has to be done with marketing the game effectively and if that means that the RFL funds this, then it has to be done as it's wrong that a London based team cannot get a full house when the Union side does most every week, although in the old days they'd be lucky to get 1000 turn up - how times have changed

Marketed properly and with real enthusiasm plus a few risks Quins could get the gates.
Everything else would fall into place.

We get around 8,000 per game would be more if away fans actually travelled in numbers like both Hull clubs do . Another bug bear of mine is the money we generate for other clubs sometimes taking between 1500-2000 away fans .

As for the Aussies bankrupting us we are signing Blake Green & have put in an offer for Willie Mason so make of that what you will , you shouldn't be in SL your attendance & performance is shocking and your away support is non existent.

What do Harlequins bring to SL ?. out of interest what is your average attendance ? Do you think you are a competitive side , lets see what the attendance is on Friday when you play Crusaders, how many of your fans will turn up.

What is with your obsession with attendances? How does the number of people turning up at our games affect anyone?

I'm not obsessed with attendances Dave but of course the attendances affect the club in revenue, and if people don't turn up you have no atmosphere .

Cheers for that, always nice to know who can create a graph and who can't

And what has it got to do with you, your team, and Rugby League in general?

red chilli obviously falls into the latter category seeing as he robbed it from slstats.org.

.......that's an average so far of 3,392.

2009 average: 3436.

didn't DICK Lewis give Quins a 'pretend' warning over poor attendances just before this season began ?

Wakefield's average attendance this season is 6018. They have been playing at their current location for 131 years. That is 46 supporters for each year of their existence. I think we are doing alright at around the 800 mark.

Thanks for popping in.



I could explain to you that the club is losing 1.5 million a year (30k a week) and this is being swallowed by our benefactor. I could then go on to explain that we have a very british team in SL, the most british actually and we no longer have special treatment from the RFL with regard to overseas players, or even having a temporary stand errected at one end of our ground. I could probably ask you for proof that the RFL (who publish their accounts the same way we do) are giving us money, but what would be the point.
As for your wonderful graph which you essentially copied from the stats site and probably hosted on your facebook page...I have an even better table if you'd like to look at it. It shows all the crowds for London RL since 2000.....the seasons averages and lists them in the order of which team is the biggest draw. It highlights that we have terrible crowds and therefore should give you a hard on, as that seems to be the only criteria you're concerned about with regard to another club



Furthermore, I would like to applaud you for having the good sense to attack another clubs franchise worthiness after only just joining these forums. It often takes a few months to get to grips with the moods on these boards, but your keyboard prowess after only a dozen or so posts shows that you are a person with intelligence....or you just created another name to go trolling?
Your opinion has been noted and stored along with the other garbage we have had to put up with over the last 15 years from narrow minded pillox. Drive carefully now and ensure the door doesn't hit your ar'se on the way out.