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| Got to sort out the kicking. Losing after outscoring them 3 tries to 2.
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"Got to sort out the kicking. '"
And the handling.
That only leaves the tackling.
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| The good news is that us lot on here weren't actually at the game!
Oh, and we can all book our holidays for September (again)
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"And the handling.
That only leaves the tackling.'"
Perhaps they are saving that for the Bulls next friday.
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"Got to sort out the kicking. Losing after outscoring them 3 tries to 2.'"
Historically, our kicking hasn't been bad.
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| Rubbish tbh.
Anyone know the full line up for the match?
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| Could have gone either way. Your team showed a lot of spirit and were the better side in the last 20 mins when they seemed to offload the ball in every tackle.
TBH two poor sides, but no lack of effort from the Quins.
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| When i see the Quins line up, I think, how did we lose?
We need to start putting players in their natural position
Purdham should go to 13.
Happy Dorn was played at FB. BJB at Centre. Tbh, im guessing he played quite well from centre with 2 tries?? Unless he was used as some sort of extra FB?
Ward is useless, sorry but it is true.
Glad to see Golden back.
Mills, is Mills.
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| Reds do the double on us
Asked about the speculation linking him with the Bradford job set to be vacated by Steve McNamara at the end of the season, the Quins boss said: "That's not a question for tonight."
The question for tonight is why has he still got a job-Something has to give enough is enough-We are rubbish
What does he bring to the team-the tactics are dreadful, he is forever putting players in the wrong positions. Im at a loss with him-He is useless-these are his players, his team-He should live or die by the results.
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| All this about putting players in the wrong positions is just making excuses to cover up the fact that the players aren't good enough, regardless of where they are named on the team sheet. People on here have been moaning that Purdham has been named in the second row instead of loose forward - it makes no difference whatsoever. The only critical positions IMO are half back, and perhaps I would like Ellis swapped with Randall, but at the end of the day, Brian McDermott is doing the best he can with what he has, which isn't a lot, and I trust his judgement as an experienced professional.
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| And to make matters worse, according to the BBC website Chad Randall has a dislocated shoulder that they couldn't get back in in the dressing room - which probably means he's gone for the season. If Catalans beat Wigan tomorrow, we're in the smelly stuff above our heads!
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| To add injury to insult, Purdo went off clutching his arm - which from 50 yards away made it look like a break - and Karl carried off with a knee injury.
It was a bit like watching Nadal/Murray - every time we stretched them, they got back to cover, and we threw several chances we did have.
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| Listening to the Five Live team doing full commentary just a few rows in front they all claimed they had not seen a worse team than Quins for completion rate in the tackle count? as others have said also players out of position, add to that what a small weak squad we have, just think if David was not putting so much personal money into our club, I tend to not want to even think.
Credit that at times we should have been down and out, but we kept fighting back, as kit80 only to do a Murray.
Interesting to listen to the half time interview with Peacock! along with his pal Smithy how they want Superleague now reducing to ten teams, as Sky would pay more? what planet is he living on, why not make it 4 teams and it would be a short season.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"All this about putting players in the wrong positions is just making excuses to cover up the fact that the players aren't good enough. Brian McDermott is doing the best he can with what he has, which isn't a lot, and I trust his judgement as an experienced professional.'"
I take your point that many of the players we have aren't good enough, but doesn't McDermott have some say in the recruitment?
The cap and the quota seem to be badly managed every year and this year is no exception. The decision to forfeit two quota places for the good of the British game I firmly believe has had an direct impact on our ability to be competitive this season.
As for the cap: Bannister, James, Kaye, Barker, Nanyn, Gardner (I'm sure everyone on here can think of their own examples) — you don't have to be very bright to work out filling the squad with players who will barely play a game and will do almost nothing to increase competition for places (especially when you are going to bring in loans like Mills anyway) is just a waste of money.
As for all the “bad luck” we have had with injuries and players leaving: Robinsion, Wells Villasanti, Fa'afili, Faumuina etc. etc.
Bad luck or bad judgement or a bit of both? These are questions McDermott will ultimately be judged on. That and his 38% win percentage (26% this year). But we know Mac isn't one for reading league tables, statistics or any other objective method used to measure success. He's all about “performance”
I'm done with the McDermott era and I really hope he is gone by the end of the year. I'm sure it won't solve all the clubs ills (far from it), but we need to get some better players and have a happy team that is at least a chance of winning most of its home games.
We don't need a coach who is “very happy, really happy” that Salford have just done the double over us.
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| You lads seem very harsh on the Quins & McDermott. Some excellent RL played in the second half and Ben Jones-Bishop scored a belter. Dorn always a threat & Orr carved many an opening. Re the Coach - the offloading was very, very good and caused Salford a lot of trouble in repelling. Dont judge them on what 5 Live say as this may have been down to statistics driven commentators.
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| Quote ="PTB"
We don't need a coach who is “very happy, really happy” that Salford have just done the double over us.'"
Are you sure that was a comment on last night's performance?
He was also asked about the Bulls coaching job.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Are you sure that was a comment on last night's performance?
He was also asked about the Bulls coaching job.
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I will have similar thoughts if he takes the Bulls coaching job.
Anyways, the comments in full for those who missed them, no mention of Purdham or Temata, only Randall.
From [url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/07/02/RUGBYL_Salford_ Quotes.htmlSportinglife[/url:
Quote Harlequins coach Brian McDermott was relatively happy with his side's showing but confirmed Chad Randall dislocated his shoulder.
"I'm very happy, really happy. I thought we played very well and defended very, very strong," he said.
"We had a couple of defensive blips near our try-line early on and I don't think they really challenged our line at all in the second half."
Of Randall, who left the pitch in the eighth minute and headed straight down the tunnel, McDermott added: "It was a big hit. It's up there. He's dislocated his shoulder was we weren't able to put it back in in the dressing room afterwards."
Asked about the speculation linking him with the Bradford job set to be vacated by Steve McNamara at the end of the season, the Quins boss said: "That's not a question for tonight."'"
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| McDermott is obviously past caring based on those comments.
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Mc Dermott described Randall's eighth minute problem as "very worrying" but added: "At least Rob was walking around."'"
Why is everybody calling for his head when he is obviously astute enough to work this out about a player with a shoulder injury?
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Why is everybody calling for his head when he is obviously astute enough to work this out about a player with a shoulder injury?
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Quote ="Homer"Why is everybody calling for his head when he is obviously astute enough to work this out about a player with a shoulder injury?'"
Hey Homer, can you remember when Purdo first had a shoulder injury? I can see it happening now (in my head). He was stood in the line (attack I think) down near The Griffin end of the ground when one of the opposition, running back to his place, gave Rob a completely gratuitous thump, nowhere near the play. I think that was the start of his shoulder problems. Can't remember the opposition now, but it was probably in 2002 because here he is out with a shoulder problem in August 2002.
www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=12676
Any ideas? Of course the hit was not noticed by any of the match officials.
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Quote ="Homer"Why is everybody calling for his head when he is obviously astute enough to work this out about a player with a shoulder injury?'"
Hey Homer, can you remember when Purdo first had a shoulder injury? I can see it happening now (in my head). He was stood in the line (attack I think) down near The Griffin end of the ground when one of the opposition, running back to his place, gave Rob a completely gratuitous thump, nowhere near the play. I think that was the start of his shoulder problems. Can't remember the opposition now, but it was probably in 2002 because here he is out with a shoulder problem in August 2002.
www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=12676
Any ideas? Of course the hit was not noticed by any of the match officials.
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| Mac said he was very happy with the display, is there another coach who would be happy with a defeat at Salford?, such are the limits of his horizon now. Or is it that our players are so fragile that he has to praise such a result?
Add the two injuries and it was pretty disastrous. Still Mac is happy.........................
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| Quote Add the two injuries and it was pretty disastrous'"
Why-We are not better or worse off with these players(accepting they are good) Salford away loss- think that through.Or even worse Salford do the double on us.
We are rubbish and Mcdermott is a very poor coach.
It would be interesting for him to name his first 13 with all players fit and compare that to what he puts out each week. Position wise
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| Brian Mac being "happy" makes me extremely angry. FFS, No-one should be remotely happy with Salford doing the double over you. Sadly, I think we are destined to finish bottom. Latest batch of injuries make things even worse.
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