Alternatively you could look at it positively

Using up the full salary cap
No debts
Good relationship with landlord………..

but we dont do that do we

A couple of addenda based on this. DH was clear that the club has no overdraft and is not in debt (as he clears that). He said this is not the case for many clubs (overdraft wise) and, given present economic circumstances, this may bite them in due course.

I note I have downplayed (icon_cool.gif (not wanting to cause another tedious rageathon on VT if it gets out) - DH was far more positive on this issue than I have made out. Change believe for stated and should for will.

Where is that mentioned? If we are using up the full SC and that is the best Mac can muster we are really up the creek.

Well as I was unable attend and those two facts weren't mentioned in Sarf Essex Taff report, I don't think it's really fair to say that.

Thank you for adding those two points. And it does solve the mystery we were trying to decipher earlier re: salary cap. So when people were saying “we don't have the money to spend on players like the big teams” (as was quite frequently trotted out as an excuse) they were basically making it up.

Obviously the cost of living in London is still a huge factor, but at least we know we can at least compete on wages.

Good effort there Sarf Essex Taff.
You forgot to mention though how many times the air con unit cut in and the attendance


Biggest attendance of the season according to Mr Blanchard though

I don't recall the salary cap being mentioned. My impression was there is no more money available in the club's budget. I would note that both DH and Mac said they didn't feel there was really anything available playerwise on the market. What there is is no better than we have and are asking over the top wages because a mid season signing is seen as a desperate signing.

Sounds like there is some conflict in reports re: salary cap then.

Cheers for the clarification.

Thank you Sarf Essex Taff. That's all I wanted in the first place.

Interesting that the demographic of the target audience is still proving hard to put a finger on. I never said the marketing of the club was easy, but surely there should have been "trial" campaigns to small areas (bush/local/regionaletc before any cash was wasted on massive campaigns)

Still, good news that we should tick all the boxes that we did last time and therefore get a licence and very good news that our Union brothers still see the potential of 52 week Rugby at the stoop.

After the event, I was walking behind DH, just as he got in his car.

I heard hims say,

that was a disaster
thank god that man, Gutterfax wasnt there, he's a marketing bigot.

I challenged him on this, he said, he stood by every word.

Now there's a Job title I could be proud of



Marketing and Sales is not a popularity contest...it's a results driven business and the old saying about you can't make an omlette without cracking eggs is very true.
On this point...
2. IL still owns 65% of club. Not putting anything in. Has not disposed of shares nor does it appear likely in short term. RFL know situation. Given losses no one wants to invest not helped by recession. no one gains tax breaks from this situation.

....surely it is in IL's (and the RFL) interest that we do well both on and off the pitch and as such, IL should be allowed to contribute whilst the recession is still biting?

Another [url=http://www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=201622&st=0&p=2018395&#entry2018395good write up[/url which is good is on “another” forum.

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No probs with TRL links

As far as the licence renewal is concerned, given the number of Northern clubs now reaping the consequences of having been, shall we say, economical with the truth about their new grounds in the last round of applications we shouldn't have too many problems.

Last year in an interview in RLW DH stated that Quins were towards the upper reaches of the Cap. One must presumme that is still the case.



The one issue for Quins is crowds or a lack of them. Won't stop the flatcappers sounding off about "expansion pf a local sport for local people" in the League Express letters section, though.

if DH is prepared to bankroll the club then small crowds are only 2 points lost in the licence application. Regardless of how much money we lose every year, we are solvent, as he just pays the bills for us.
Whilst not ideal, this makes us solvent......so I can't see the club not getting a licence renewal, but I would suspect it will be with a warning about crowds in the future......