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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Excellent replacement for McDermott then, a complete parallel, exactly what we need
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I mistakenly thought You liked Mcdermott
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| A good honest player and too young to retire. Hope he helps out London RL in some form or other.
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| I do wonder about the finances at Quins; Joe Mbu would not be in my starting 13, but he is a Londoner, could cover both back-row and front-row positions, was experienced, always put 100% in.
Can't say we haven't seen it before, with Mac chopping him before, before welcoming him back with open arms after his stint up in Doncaster.
I do fear that there is very little cash flying about the club, except the cash from Sky television. Joe Mbu was worthy of a place in the squad next year, and it is money (or lack therefore of) that has forced him out.
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| Sad news indeed.
We didn't see him at his best this season due to his injury, and we will miss his work rate on the field next season.
Good luck Joe in whatever you decide to do, lets hope we see you again at Quins in another capacity?
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| Very Sad news indeed.
Maybe Ady can get him sorted out with one of the development roles on offer at the RFL in London? He needs to be retained by the game as an example of what hard work and commitment can achieve.....
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| I completely agree that it is a sad to see Joe retire at such a young age and more so being a Londoner, but can't we accept for the time being for the respect of Joe and his Family, that is was his own decision?
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| Quote ="jaybs"I completely agree that it is a sad to see Joe retire at such a young age and more so being a Londoner, but can't we accept for the time being for the respect of Joe and his Family, that is was his own decision?'"
Yes, I bet Joe is in tears at some people suggesting that this isn't all his own doing. Apologies to his family who will clearly be distressed by this assertions.
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| Quote ="gutterfax" He needs to be retained by the game as an example of what hard work and commitment can achieve.....'"
What would that be? That you put in a ton of hard work, give reliable performances every time you play, show committment and endeavour to the club and fans, and then get replaced by an Australian on twice the money but with less skill and even less committment?
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| Quote ="nadera78"What would that be? That you put in a ton of hard work, give reliable performances every time you play, show committment and endeavour to the club and fans, and then get replaced by an Australian on twice the money but with less skill and even less committment?'"
A bit over the top IMO. Both those players have far more skill than Joe has.
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| Let's hope that the 2 aussies replicate what a lot of Aussies have done in SL - been absolute sh111te for the first season and then been the players they should be after that. Remember Pat Richards getting panned by Pie fans in his first season, Clint Newton being pretty average at HKR in his first year, Matt King - nuff said.
Back on topic - all the best Joe and thanks for all you did, do I remember a game at Brentford when he played on with a bust arm.
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| All the Best Big Joe
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| Quote ="Snoopy"A bit over the top IMO. Both those players have far more skill than Joe has.
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Let them show it then.
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| Good luck Joe.
Remember Joe getting up after an awkward tackle on the touchline at Brentford with his arm clearly broken and running back in field to accept the next pass.
The most commited player on and off the field that we had.
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| Quote ="TaRL PaRL"Good luck Joe.
Remember Joe getting up after an awkward tackle on the touchline at Brentford with his arm clearly broken and running back in field to accept the next pass.
The most commited player on and off the field that we had.'"
Remember it well.
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| All the best Joe!
From what I have read on this thread, you seem a very popular player down there and I am sure you'll be a big loss to London RL.
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| Quote ="TaRL PaRL"Good luck Joe.
Remember Joe getting up after an awkward tackle on the touchline at Brentford with his arm clearly broken and running back in field to accept the next pass.
The most commited player on and off the field that we had.'"
Yes, I well remember that committed display at Griffin Park, but plenty of other players would have done the same and long term we have to decide which players can best take the club further. Take away the "Londoner" factor and Joe was no more than an average (and that's being generous) utility forward who gave 100%. Is (for instance) Jason Golden less worthy? There's been a lot of sentimental claptrap spouted on this thread. People soon moan if we sign journeymen from up north, yet moan when we don't retain one of our own. You might say there's nothing to choose between the two so why not keep the home-grown lad, but that's down to the coach to decide.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Yes, I well remember that committed display at Griffin Park, but plenty of other players would have done the same and long term we have to decide which players can best take the club further. Take away the "Londoner" factor and Joe was no more than an average (and that's being generous) utility forward who gave 100%. Is (for instance) Jason Golden less worthy? There's been a lot of sentimental claptrap spouted on this thread. People soon moan if we sign journeymen from up north, yet moan when we don't retain one of our own. You might say there's nothing to choose between the two so why not keep the home-grown lad, but that's down to the coach to decide.'"
Fundamentally disagree.
Joe was much better than average and this is part of the reason why we all liked him so much. He should never have been released, should have been given a bigger role in the team. Obviously him being home grown is also a factor - how could it not be when there is so few of them that are geniune first 17 contenders?
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Yes, I well remember that committed display at Griffin Park, but plenty of other players would have done the same and long term we have to decide which players can best take the club further. Take away the "Londoner" factor and Joe was no more than an average (and that's being generous) utility forward who gave 100%. Is (for instance) Jason Golden less worthy? There's been a lot of sentimental claptrap spouted on this thread. People soon moan if we sign journeymen from up north, yet moan when we don't retain one of our own. You might say there's nothing to choose between the two so why not keep the home-grown lad, but that's down to the coach to decide.'"
The problem with this argument is that the middle of the road second-row forwards BM has a penchant for quite clearly haven't shown the effort and determination that we've come to expect from Joe. He may be limited technically, but he never let us down with what he could do, some of our middle of the road second-rows haven't even shown us half of that. I will moan when we sign middle of the road second-rows who show a lack off effort, and I will moan when we lose a player who actually will show that effort.
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| I saw Ju Ju Rinaldi on TV at the France Kiwi game and thought that maybe he and Joe would still be around if the club had believed in them a bit more. Shame.
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| Ridiculous decision by the club to let him retire. He's exactly the sort of player we need, consistent, tackling machine, never took a backward step. Its like Brian McD watches a different sport to me. Gutted.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Ridiculous decision by the club to let him retire.'"
The club has no say in the matter
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"The club has no say in the matter
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Of course, he would have declined a 3 year contract.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Of course, he would have declined a 3 year contract.'"
OK they had a little say in the matter
Isn't it just a combination of injuries (each taking loner to heal) and his age just catching up with him along with a new family and not being @rsed to trail around the nether regions of the Championship?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Isn't it just a combination of injuries (each taking loner to heal) and his age just catching up with him along with a new family and not being @rsed to trail around the nether regions of the Championship?'"
He's only 25 (26 next week).
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