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| Huddersfield are a very good side. Chatting with their fans after the game, they believe that this year they will easily make the play-offs and I have to agree with them. Very big, but mobile pack and great handling by everyone on the park.
We were bad on Saturday, but I have to say, I think Huddersfield would have beaten most teams playing as well as they did.
As for Thaler...the man is an incompetent idiot. He marched Hudds down the pitch for their first 2 tries and although his stupidity didn't affect the outcome of the game, he really was terrible.
On the thorny issue of attendence, 2,500 is a disgrace and something has to be done NOW not later to sort this out. Regardless of where we are made to sit, we really need to be getting 4,000 HOME fans to every game. I think Thursday will see a sub 2,000 crowd which, regardless of time and day, is disgusting, embarrasing and shows up the lack of activity in marketing the game. I don't care about community awards and coaching Kids, bums on seats are what is needed.
We are currently averaging 3,560 a game....down from 5,407 compared to the three games last year.
It is no longer acceptable for the club to keep saying everything is OK.....because it's not. As long as the management of the club refuse to spend any cash on above the line marketing, then we will struggle to fill even the one stand.
The club have had offers from me and other people who are far more experienced then me, to assist with the marketing of the game, but to no avail. Simple little thing, done properly and with enthusiasm and passion will get results, but I dispair at the patent lack of activity ABOVE THE LINE.
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| Quote ="Chris Brown"There is the difference, my lot (owned and funded by Ian Lenegan still) have taken 41 points from the last 48 with 13 wins, 2 draws and a loss from the last 16 games.
Put the buzz into context, there were more Oxford United fans at the away game at Stevenage last week than Quins RL fans at the Stoop on Saturday.
Surely that is embarrassing isn't it, more away fans at a game in the 5th league of English football than home fans at a Super League clubs home game.'"
If its so embarrassing why do you bother? You cant compare the two sports. I find it amazing the amount of people on here that moan about our attendances but dont actually make the effort to come to what amounts to 13 or 14 home games A YEAR. You are the problem, not the marketing, uncomitted fans who claim to love RL but dont follow it up with the support that the club and the sport deserves and needs so much more than most. You just come on here and moan about niggly little problems and justify your dumb reasons for not coming to games.
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| Get your head out of the sand. There was 1900 people there on Saturday.........FACT
Saturday was chosen by the club because it attracts the best attendances..........FACT
Comparative attendances on last years equivalents are 2000 down on last season .......FACT
Nothing has been done in the last 6 months to address this........FACT
No Super League club can survive on such dreadful crowds........ Suspect this is a FACT
As for me, this is not about me. Sadly I have yet to be able to come to a match this season even if I had wanted to, the first option for me is SUNDAY 17 May which I will attend. I DO NOT GO TO GAMES ANY LONGER BECAUSE I CAN'T !!!!! And it appears that I am not the only one unable or unwilling to go this season.
I live 60 miles from the ground and have travelled to most home games for the last 5 seasons, sorry that you blame the likes of me for the clubs plight. And I have to apologise for expecting the club to have marketed the sport, how could I possibly have blamed anyone other than me for that. My season tickets lapsed and nobody from the club has contacted me from that day to now. You may think that is OK but its pathetic.
I am also very worried that you see our crowd level as a 'niggly little problem'. You are just the sort of fan the club needs..........well done !!
You keep your head in the sand and keep that belief that the current direction doesn't need to change
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| The club should always aim for sat 3pm kick offs as they are the best for all. BUT playing at the same time as the weekend's major national sporting event is foolish.
None of this season's games have been played at a sensible day/time. This club has far too many lapsed fans and getting them to come back should be key.
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| Quote ="Chris Brown"
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I DO NOT GO TO GAMES ANY LONGER BECAUSE I CAN'T !!!!! '"
Browny's cracking up, he's cracking up.
It is your choice to watch football.....
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Browny's cracking up, he's cracking up.
It is your choice to watch football.....'"
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I guess I cracked at being told that the reason the crowds were poor was nothing to do with clubs marketing but actually all down to the likes of me who dare not to go any more. Biggest tripe I've read on here in 5 years
Are the crowds not a concern then ?
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| Quote ="Chris Brown"Are the crowds not a concern then ?'"
Absolutely, they are awful.
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| Crowds don't go up - clubs fault
Crowds go down - people who don't turn up's fault
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| Quote ="Chris Brown"FACT
I guess I cracked at being told that the reason the crowds were poor was nothing to do with clubs marketing but actually all down to the likes of me who dare not to go any more. Biggest tripe I've read on here in 5 years
Are the crowds not a concern then ?'"
How many quins games a year clash with your bl**dy soccer clubs home games? 4? 5? You could go to every Quins game AND 90% of your soccer games! You have no right to moan about attendances when you dont even make the effort to go to the games. Why cant all these fans that claim to love the game support the only fully pro-club in the south. 'I had to turn my back on the club'...'I cant be expected to go to every game when they clash with my soccer club'. If you're an RL fan and you love the game youd get yourself to Quins home games. End of. I go most of all cos i love watching top level RL.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"How many quins games a year clash with your bl**dy soccer clubs home games? 4? 5? You could go to every Quins game AND 90% of your soccer games! You have no right to moan about attendances when you dont even make the effort to go to the games. Why cant all these fans that claim to love the game support the only fully pro-club in the south. 'I had to turn my back on the club'...'I cant be expected to go to every game when they clash with my soccer club'. If you're an RL fan and you love the game youd get yourself to Quins home games. End of. I go most of all cos i love watching top level RL.'"
I have no interest in the views of someone who openly admits that watching second-rate soccer is their priority.
I don't care about people having an interest in soccer, but bleating about how they can't go and watch RL because they want to watch soccer is a joke.
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I have no interest in the views of someone who openly admits that watching second-rate soccer is their priority.
I don't care about people having an interest in soccer, but bleating about how they can't go and watch RL because they want to watch soccer is a joke.'"
For goodness sake this is not about me. Its about how many potentially there are who are excluded from watching Quins games for the same reason
Quote ="Tre Cool"How many quins games a year clash with your bl**dy soccer clubs home games? 4? 5? You could go to every Quins game AND 90% of your soccer games! '"
Sadly this is not the case because one of the other things I am involved in through the summer is the running of 10 charity BBQ's which raise around £4000 every year and have done for the last 10 years. So with respect you have no bleedin idea or right tell me what I should and should not be doing. So I choose to fund raise on those Saturdays I have to myself in the summer.
No doubt you will criticise me for daring to put charity fund raising before Rl as well
If Rl was on a Sunday I would be there. I pose the question of how many more would be in the same boat that is all
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| Quote ="Chris Brown"For goodness sake this is not about me. Its about how many potentially there are who are excluded from watching Quins games for the same reason '"
Arsenal
Chelsea
Fulham
West Ham United
Tottenham Hotspur
Charlton Athletic
Crystal Palace
Queens Park Rangers
Leyton Orient
Millwall
Barnet
Brentford
Dagenham & Redbridge
Bromley
Fisher Athletic
Hampton & Richmond Borough
Hayes & Yeading United
Welling United
AFC Wimbledon
Carshalton Athletic
Harrow Borough
Hendon
A.F.C. Hornchurch
Sutton United
Wealdstone
Tooting & Mitcham United
Enfield Town
Hillingdon Borough
Ilford
Leyton
Molesey
Northwood
Redbridge
Thamesmead Town
Waltham Forest
Wingate and Finchley
Corinthian-Casuals
Cray Wanderers
Croydon Athletic
Dulwich Hamlet
Kingstonian
Metropolitan Police F.C.
15:00 kick off on a saturday
you have to see where he's coming from Lister
Quins are competing for a very small share
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| Chris Brown:
You are choosing to exclude yourself, the club are not excluding you.
End of story.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Arsenal
Chelsea
Fulham
West Ham United
Tottenham Hotspur
Charlton Athletic
Crystal Palace
Queens Park Rangers
Leyton Orient
Millwall
Barnet
Brentford
Dagenham & Redbridge
Bromley
Fisher Athletic
Hampton & Richmond Borough
Hayes & Yeading United
Welling United
AFC Wimbledon
Carshalton Athletic
Harrow Borough
Hendon
A.F.C. Hornchurch
Sutton United
Wealdstone
Tooting & Mitcham United
Enfield Town
Hillingdon Borough
Ilford
Leyton
Molesey
Northwood
Redbridge
Thamesmead Town
Waltham Forest
Wingate and Finchley
Corinthian-Casuals
Cray Wanderers
Croydon Athletic
Dulwich Hamlet
Kingstonian
Metropolitan Police F.C.
15:00 kick off on a saturday
you have to see where he's coming from Lister
Quins are competing for a very small share'"
No, none of those are preventing people from supporting Harlequins Rugby League. People are choosing to take part in these activities over watching RL and thats up to them. Tough sh*t if they have got their priorities wrong.
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| some people would be prepared to go to both if the times were different.
I struggle to get to 1500 kickoffs on a sat, any other time would be fine for me
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"some people would be prepared to go to both if the times were different.
I struggle to get to 1500 kickoffs on a sat, any other time would be fine for me'"
Good for you. Rugby League is my number 1 priority and 15.00 kickoffs on a Saturday are great for me. I wouldn't expect to be accomodated if I decided that football is more important. What sort of logic is that?
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| Additionally, is the concept of competition lost on some people?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Good for you. Rugby League is my number 1 priority and 15.00 kickoffs on a Saturday are great for me. I wouldn't expect to be accommodated if I decided that football is more important. What sort of logic is that?'"
Don't get me wrong here, personally i don't do football just trying to play devils advocate
Some people like both sports and having it at 3 on a Saturday which is traditionally football territory, to me is commercial suicide seeing as Football is the No.1 sport in the world
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| Think you'll find more people in London watching football on tv than at games at 3pm on a sat. Skys main game is sunday4pm. Intentionally Going head to head with that on a regular basis is just plain stupid.
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Sadly this is not the case because one of the other things I am involved in through the summer is the running of 10 charity BBQ's which raise and have done for the last 10 years. So with respect you have no bleedin idea or right tell me what I should and should not be doing. So I choose to fund raise on those Saturdays I have to myself in the summer.
No doubt you will criticise me for daring to put charity fund raising before Rl as well
If Rl was on a Sunday I would be there. I pose the question of how many more would be in the same boat that is all'" why do you hold the bbqs on saturdays?
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| Here is another angle. RL for the last 14 years has been my number one sport. I was very involed with my local non league football team (which along with about another 20 non league local clubs is not mentioned on the football list) Due to the timing of matches I opted for RL however there are a number of supporters at the football club who chose football. This is their right as we all have options and preferences. How about we have Sunday games whilst the RU and Football season are in progress and Saturday games during mid season. This should accommodate football and rugby union fans on a Saturday at the beginning and end of the season. It also means mid season Saturday is the day Dad takes the kids out (or lads day out) while Mum/ girlfriend/partner does her own thing (or comes along as well) this leaves leaves Sunday free for a day out or free time to spend with friends and family. It would also be useful to sell half season tickets for either Saturday or Sunday so fans can still benefit from discounted season tickets. Why can't we have a dedicated family / community stand behind the sticks where people are free to sit where they wish. Surely anything is worth trying in an aid to put bums on seats and keep them there. Problem solved...................
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| Quote ="Darthchris"Think you'll find more people in London watching football on tv than at games at 3pm on a sat. Skys main game is sunday4pm. Intentionally Going head to head with that on a regular basis is just plain stupid.'"
So all the northern SL clubs (with bigger attendances than us) must be stupid then?
The bottom line is that 3pm Saturday kick offs suit the hardcore who prioritise RL over anything else, but probably not too many others, and that won't help grow our crowds. I don't think many people minded to get out and watch live sport would prefer to just sit in a pub on a Sunday afternoon watching Bolton v Portsmouth or some such on Sky TV.
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| Quote ="Briali1"Here is another angle. RL for the last 14 years has been my number one sport. I was very involed with my local non league football team (which along with about another 20 non league local clubs is not mentioned on the football list) Due to the timing of matches I opted for RL however there are a number of supporters at the football club who chose football. This is their right as we all have options and preferences. How about we have Sunday games whilst the RU and Football season are in progress and Saturday games during mid season. This should accommodate football and rugby union fans on a Saturday at the beginning and end of the season. It also means mid season Saturday is the day Dad takes the kids out (or lads day out) while Mum/ girlfriend/partner does her own thing (or comes along as well) this leaves leaves Sunday free for a day out or free time to spend with friends and family. It would also be useful to sell half season tickets for either Saturday or Sunday so fans can still benefit from discounted season tickets. Why can't we have a dedicated family / community stand behind the sticks where people are free to sit where they wish. Surely anything is worth trying in an aid to put bums on seats and keep them there. Problem solved...................'"
Spot on Brian. If you ask the Quins RL supporters you will find a good half who actively support either a soccer club or an RU club. Pure QRL fans are hard to find, even I have commitments at the Skolars. More importantly their many fans of other sports who would come if it did not clash with soccer and RU. That is why SL plays in the summer. When we get bumper crowds the London contingent consist largely of soccer fans. I look forward to the day when QRL is the first priority but it is a long way off, our hard core is quite small. Your solution is neat.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"So all the northern SL clubs (with bigger attendances than us) must be stupid then?
The bottom line is that 3pm Saturday kick offs suit the hardcore who prioritise RL over anything else, but probably not too many others, and that won't help grow our crowds. I don't think many people minded to get out and watch live sport would prefer to just sit in a pub on a Sunday afternoon watching Bolton v Portsmouth or some such on Sky TV.'"
How many Big SL clubs play on Sundays?
How many big sl clubs are in big metropolitan cities with a mix for people from all over the world supporting a vast range of teams rather than their local club?
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