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| Quote ="dotti"GO TO Harlequins Club site forum. Marky the radio guy posted this at 10.30 yesterday..'" Are you getting confused with Ian Ramsdale ?
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| Do you reckon they will cease to exists altogether or just drop a league? It would be a shame to see them go to the wall. If they do though there is always Skolars who don't get the attention they deserve either.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Are you getting confused with Ian Ramsdale ?'"
He sure is .......Mark Rammond is a fan..a noisey one at that .....Ian Ramsdale is the presenter for London 94.9....Not that I,m saying Mark is wrong (and we all hope he,s right ) but I,m trying to reign in my joy until its official..if he is I reckon the drinks will be flowing on Friday afternoon/evening..
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| I'm keeping everything crossed that things will be sorted out very soon and that there will be a competitive Quins RL club in Superleague next season.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Wrong. The DW, Galpharm and KC stadia are owned by holding companies and the RL and soccer clubs have leasing agreements with them ( I think Wigan's was a 99 year one.).'"
The DW Stadium is owned by the Football Club and managed by Wigan Football Company Ltd.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"A quick scan of the other forums on this site reveals Castleford, Wakefield and Salford as being the other boards that believe this warrants it's own thread. Insecurity is a terrible thing....of that you can be sure of
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Its not suprising though really when you think that it is these three clubs who are in danger of loosing their franchise for 2012. The rest of the SL clubs aren't that bothered because it doesn't really affect them. If the situation comes around again in a few years time, and it is another club not in the three named, which is at risk at loosing their franchise at the same time as quins (or whatever the London team will be called at the time) is receiving "assistance" from the RFL, you may find that they have a thread dedicated to it.
There should be a level playing field as far as the franchsire applications go - the fans of the three clubs concerned are interested in this latest development, as it would appear as yet another potential example where the RFL are helping a team in an "expansion" area out - whereas they would not necessarily do the same for a heartlands club.
Not a go at your club, but to me the RFL might as well just say to Wakey, Cas and Salford that they are the only three clubs in danger (which appears to be pretty much the case) and save the other clubs from wasting the time and effort in submitting a franchise application.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Its not suprising though really when you think that it is these three clubs who are in danger of loosing their franchise for 2012. The rest of the SL clubs aren't that bothered because it doesn't really affect them. If the situation comes around again in a few years time, and it is another club not in the three named, which is at risk at loosing their franchise at the same time as quins (or whatever the London team will be called at the time) is receiving "assistance" from the RFL, you may find that they have a thread dedicated to it.
There should be a level playing field as far as the franchsire applications go - the fans of the three clubs concerned are interested in this latest development, as it would appear as yet another potential example where the RFL are helping a team in an "expansion" area out - whereas they would not necessarily do the same for a heartlands club.
Not a go at your club, but to me the RFL might as well just say to Wakey, Cas and Salford that they are the only three clubs in danger (which appears to be pretty much the case) and save the other clubs from wasting the time and effort in submitting a franchise application.'"
The whole point in franchise application is to improve the game and bring it into the 21st Century is it not ?, the RFL in their ernest set out the criteria in which they expect a club to operate, such as ground condition, Acadamy systems, and FINANCIAL stability, ie: no debt, should the RFL bail out the Quins and then give them a franchise it would make the whole franchise application a joke and a waste of time, and the RFL laughing stock by bending THEIR own rules to suit, if they do bail out the quins as widely expeted as they did b4, then thus proves that they are not financialy stable and do not reach the Franchise reqiurments as set out by the RFL, will be intresting as i don't think the RFL will want to lose Quins after bailing them out once already at the 11th hour.
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| Quote ="scudley"The whole point in franchise application is to improve the game and bring it into the 21st Century is it not ?, the RFL in their ernest set out the criteria in which they expect a club to operate, such as ground condition, Acadamy systems, and FINANCIAL stability, ie: no debt, should the RFL bail out the Quins and then give them a franchise it would make the whole franchise application a joke and a waste of time, and the RFL laughing stock by bending THEIR own rules to suit, if they do bail out the quins as widely expeted as they did b4, then thus proves that they are not financialy stable and do not reach the Franchise reqiurments as set out by the RFL, will be intresting as i don't think the RFL will want to lose Quins after bailing them out once already at the 11th hour.
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As has been said many times before by more esteemed posters, can you please give full details of these so called financial bail outs from the RFL ???? Dates and amounts would be useful, as far as I understand the situation technically we have no debt.
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| Quote ="scudley"will be intresting as i don't think the RFL will want to lose Quins after bailing them out once already at the 11th hour.
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What 11th hour was this. If anything it is SL chairman to thank for London still being in Super League. Votes are what saved us then, not RFL bail outs.
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| Quote ="Londo06"What 11th hour was this. If anything it is SL chairman to thank for London still being in Super League. Votes are what saved us then, not RFL bail outs.'"
London, they won't listen....!!!! Our northern cousins are convinced that the RFL have been supplying us with sackful's of cash, passed in secret liasons at Keele Services on the M6 at regular intervals
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| Quote ="scudley"The whole point in franchise application is to improve the game and bring it into the 21st Century is it not ?, the RFL in their ernest set out the criteria in which they expect a club to operate, such as ground condition, Acadamy systems, and FINANCIAL stability, ie: no debt, should the RFL bail out the Quins and then give them a franchise it would make the whole franchise application a joke and a waste of time, and the RFL laughing stock by bending THEIR own rules to suit, if they do bail out the quins as widely expeted as they did b4, then thus proves that they are not financialy stable and do not reach the Franchise reqiurments as set out by the RFL, will be intresting as i don't think the RFL will want to lose Quins after bailing them out once already at the 11th hour.
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It is beyond belief how biased some can be, no wonder at times sponsors must feel our game is a joke! what DEBT have QUINS RL as a club? We are playing a major part in youth development in the south, in fact it is stronger than many northern rugby towns! which is a disgrace to those areas in the north.
I wonder if you really know how stable some Northern Rugby League Clubs are? even St Helens with all it's success lost in 2009 more than £650,000, while Widnes Vikings made a £1 million profit, in Super League there is only ONE Club that is truly successful all round off the pitch and that is Leeds Rhinos, so please don't preach to us about FACTS, it shows how desperate some clubs are that they feel they have to visit our board and state nothing but sour grapes, I have never visited Castleford or Wakefield's forum why should I?
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| Quote ="jaybs"It is beyond belief how biased some can be, no wonder at times sponsors must feel our game is a joke! what DEBT have QUINS RL as a club? We are playing a major part in youth development in the south, in fact it is stronger than many northern rugby towns! which is a disgrace to those areas in the north.
I wonder if you really know how stable some Northern Rugby League Clubs are? even St Helens with all it's success lost in 2009 more than £650,000, while Widnes Vikings made a £1 million profit, in Super League there is only ONE Club that is truly successful all round off the pitch and that is Leeds Rhinos, so please don't preach to us about FACTS, it shows how desperate some clubs are that they feel they have to visit our board and state nothing but sour grapes, I have never visited Castleford or Wakefield's forum why should I?'"
Jayb's I think we are at the moment with our Northern cousins...........
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Quote ="Fan50"London, they won't listen....!!!! Our northern cousins are convinced that the RFL have been supplying us with sackful's of cash, passed in secret liasons at Keele Services on the M6 at regular intervals'"
www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/internets
I hear there's rumours on the Internets.
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www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/internets
I hear there's rumours on the Internets.
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| Quote ="Londo06"www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/internets
I hear there's rumours on the Internets.'"
LOL!!!......Please no !!!! We're in enough trouble without having George Dubya getting involved !!!
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| even St Helens with all it's success lost in 2009 more than £650,000,
You can't help yourself can you jaybs,bitter.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"you may find that they have a thread dedicated to it.'" ...you jest
Quote ="Tricky2309"There should be a level playing field as far as the franchsire applications go - the fans of the three clubs concerned are interested in this latest development, as it would appear as yet another potential example where the RFL are helping a team in an "expansion" area out - whereas they would not necessarily do the same for a heartlands club. '" I think you will find that the RFL have informed the Wigan chairman that he is in breach of the commitment he made when he bought Wigan.....but if you want to imagine bags of cash changing hands...go ahead.
Quote ="Tricky2309"Not a go at your club, but to me the RFL might as well just say to Wakey, Cas and Salford that they are the only three clubs in danger (which appears to be pretty much the case) and save the other clubs from wasting the time and effort in submitting a franchise application.'"
All clubs have to apply...and that's the way it should be. Bradford and HKR seem to get less of a mention when it comes to the "ground" issue and neither are rolling in cash either.
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| "We are playing a major part in youth development in the south, in fact it is stronger than many northern rugby towns! which is a disgrace to those areas in the north"
You have improved it from non existent, to rather a successful 'turn out', judging by how many play it the local schools/amatuer clubs.
But why should one rugby league club 'have to do this' ? After all, clubs should look after no.1. As a RUGBY LEAGUE CLUB, Harlequins/London/Broncos/Crusaders, whatever format, you are hardly been 'self sufficient', but you are not on your own.
The one ANNOYING thing, is that the RFL would care a lot more about keeping Quins alive, than say a 'flat cap' (northern to you lot)club, Why ?????
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| The RFL want a Super League presence in the capital. After 30 years it clearly hasn't been a massive finacial success. However the RFL continue to want a London Super League team. If they want it they can pay for it.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"even St Helens with all it's success lost in 2009 more than £650,000,
You can't help yourself can you jaybs,bitter.'"
It's TRUTH, I never speculate only facts that I know! is that bitter, perhaps it is Bitter you always feel you have to take a shot? LOL!
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Is there a dormant stadium somewhere that we could take over and redevelop as our own home? Even if there is it would require a benevolent multi-millionaire to make it happen. If the RFL & Sky really do feel it's so essential to sustain a London club in Superleague maybe they can do something to bring about a dedicated rugby league stadium in the capital?'"
There is Woolwich Stadium, which did hold a RL game - see [urlhttp://www.thefreelibrary.com/Unlikely+clash+at+Woolwich+Stadium.-a0121945841[/url. Only 500 spectators, so maybe not the best experiment Also it's not so much dormant now as just a few lumps in the grass where the banking was, as far as I can see.
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Well we will all find out on friday now.. so we better all be there early if its before the game so can get behind the guys when playing.. but thats if we hear what he has to say as the P.A. system is crap at times at the Stoop..
On another note about this subject..Rammo wants as many people to e mail,text or even ring his show on weds night to chat about this and our feeling and hopes... I also got the feeling that he might need it to be able to have the show back next season. As its been very quiet with mail from us fans on his show lately and although its a good thing he has spend alot of time chatting about the amateur game in the south.
He might have news or rumours on players coming in or out(the latter is more then likely )
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Well we will all find out on friday now.. so we better all be there early if its before the game so can get behind the guys when playing.. but thats if we hear what he has to say as the P.A. system is crap at times at the Stoop..
On another note about this subject..Rammo wants as many people to e mail,text or even ring his show on weds night to chat about this and our feeling and hopes... I also got the feeling that he might need it to be able to have the show back next season. As its been very quiet with mail from us fans on his show lately and although its a good thing he has spend alot of time chatting about the amateur game in the south.
He might have news or rumours on players coming in or out(the latter is more then likely )
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Quote ="gutterfax"...you jest
I think you will find that the RFL have informed the Wigan chairman that he is in breach of the commitment he made when he bought Wigan.....but if you want to imagine bags of cash changing hands...go ahead.
All clubs have to apply...and that's the way it should be. Bradford and HKR seem to get less of a mention when it comes to the "ground" issue and neither are rolling in cash either.'"
The BBC, The trade papers and the National Press carried articles on Hull KR’s finances quoting a story in the local press. The HDM has since apologised.
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html
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I think you will find that the RFL have informed the Wigan chairman that he is in breach of the commitment he made when he bought Wigan.....but if you want to imagine bags of cash changing hands...go ahead.
All clubs have to apply...and that's the way it should be. Bradford and HKR seem to get less of a mention when it comes to the "ground" issue and neither are rolling in cash either.'"
The BBC, The trade papers and the National Press carried articles on Hull KR’s finances quoting a story in the local press. The HDM has since apologised.
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html
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| Quote ="jaybs"It's TRUTH, I never speculate only facts that I know! is that bitter, perhaps it is Bitter you always feel you have to take a shot? LOL!'"
Never denied it was the truth but you just seem to want to have a go at Saints all of the time.
And has I have said previously that when we are in the new stadium we will be making a profit and I know that will really annoy you won't it.
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