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| I'd love to know where the money to pay for all these extra refs/video refs/cameras/cameramen is going to come from.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"scottHKR just one question, are you a ref?
Looking at the petition, I agree with some and not others
Technology at all games or no games!
Forward pass!! what about momentum?
Two refs rubbish idea
Aus use this system where ref is happy that try has been scored they then ask for infringement leading up too the try.
How do you give linesmen more responsibility, they are miked up anyhow, the "advise" the ref they don't make the decision what do you want to do give em a whistle? that would make 4 refs if you went for 2 on the field
Why is on report a cop out?'"
You don't need to be a ref to have an opinion on them.
The forward pass momentum thing is stupid. The ball should go backwards from the player passing. End of.
Report is a cop out because it is no longer only used for offenses the ref didn't see. They put high shots on report. What for? They saw it was high. The fact that you don't need to be put on report to be cited post game speaks volumes for what little power putting someone on report has.
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| Quote ="richie166"I'd love to know where the money to pay for all these extra refs/video refs/cameras/cameramen is going to come from.'"
Tbh, a lot of it has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.
We also have no sponsor, and last season's sponsor provided the sport with £0.
That's the reason there is no money.
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| Quote ="ScottHKR"Tbh, a lot of it has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.
We also have no sponsor, and last season's sponsor provided the sport with £0.
That's the reason there is no money.'"
You've come to the wrong board to make sure accusations as a lot of money has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.
I await gutterfax's standard reply.
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| Quote ="ScottHKR"Tbh, a lot of it has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.'"
Can I ask for a bit more detail on that? What money has the RFL sunk into it?
If you're going to make passive aggressive comments on the boards for the London team (and others, trying to create tension) don't get shirty when people make comments at you.
The big problem is not many people want to watch the sport, not many want to play it, and even fewer want to officiate it. So your petition will only make people think it's such a thankless task why bother, especially when you want to reduce the efficacy of the referee by making them more dependant on tech.
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| Like I have said in another post! reffing from the stand or sat in front of the TV is easy!
Momentum rule is exactly that, but if you have a player passing the ball when they are at full speed the actually travel carriage of the ball over the ground will be fwd over the ground. On the fwd pass I actually agree that there seems to be a reluctance for officials to call it, TJ's only advise its the ref that decides if he wants to call it fwd
As for sin bin, and on report yes it should only be used for incidents that are not severe enough to justify removing the player from the field. one offence on the pitch may not justify sin bin but if the player is persistent offender then he should face discip, the ref on the day cannot do that.
The only way you will get rid of "mistakes" is sanitise the sport to the level of American football would you want that.
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| I do think the replays that vid ref is watching should not be shown on the big screens at games, they don't show it live at NRL games.
Having an understanding of what it is like to ref might give you a different view on standards, actually from what I have sen this year the blokes in the middle have been pretty good this year.
The only real controversy has been caused by the technology that its being suggested should be increased.
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| Quote ="ScottHKR"Tbh, a lot of it has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.
We also have no sponsor, and last season's sponsor provided the sport with £0.
That's the reason there is no money.'"
Are now you are showing your true colours and you are very wide of the mark and wrong on a number of counts. About sums up your petition biased in every respect.
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| Quote ="ScottHKR"Tbh, a lot of it has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.
We also have no sponsor, and last season's sponsor provided the sport with £0.
That's the reason there is no money.'"
Whereas Hull KA get the same amount of money as London and produce few SL level players and are apparently very short of money despite hand-outs from the council to improve the stadium and being based in an RL hotbed with strong media support and amateur RL heritage.
Who's wasting the money?
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"I do think the replays that vid ref is watching should not be shown on the big screens at games, they don't show it live at NRL games.
Having an understanding of what it is like to ref might give you a different view on standards, actually from what I have sen this year the blokes in the middle have been pretty good this year.
The only real controversy has been caused by the technology that its being suggested should be increased.'"
Can't agree, I have never seen a season with so many forward passes missed, which lead to tries, that is getting something basic wrong. Roby for me stands in strange positions, not allowing him to see passes go forward, but then he has two assistants to help?
Some of the best video ref work has been with Ian Smith, when he talks you through his decision!
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| Quote ="jaybs"Can't agree, I have never seen a season with so many forward passes missed, which lead to tries, that is getting something basic wrong. Roby for me stands in strange positions, not allowing him to see passes go forward, but then he has two assistants to help?
Some of the best video ref work has been with Ian Smith, when he talks you through his decision!'"
so when you are talked through a decision by a pro ref you agree with it? Funny that.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"so when you are talked through a decision by a pro ref you agree with it? Funny that.'"
Still hungry, Mr Bad Head! No, it tells you why he made the decision!
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| Quote ="ScottHKR"Tbh, a lot of it has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.'"
Hello there Scott.
I'd very much appreciate a breakdown of the money London Broncos versions 1 and 2, together with Harlequins Rugby League have received that are over and above those received by any of the other 21 teams that have graced the Superleague between 1996 and the current season.
If you can't provide links to these payments, a summary of where and when you think they have been made and the amounts you believe the club have received would be helpful in identifying at what stage of your stunted development you came to believe in these payments as well as Santa and the Tooth fairy.
Scott, I get the impression that your one man campaign to stand up against wrong doers in RL and make it an even simpler game, makes you feel special. Well guess what Scott? I don't care what other people say about you. I don't care if you interfere with farmyard animals or even if you lick windscreens.
You hang in there mate....because you truly are special
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Hello there Scott.
I'd very much appreciate a breakdown of the money London Broncos versions 1 and 2, together with Harlequins Rugby League have received that are over and above those received by any of the other 21 teams that have graced the Superleague between 1996 and the current season.
If you can't provide links to these payments, a summary of where and when you think they have been made and the amounts you believe the club have received would be helpful in identifying at what stage of your stunted development you came to believe in these payments as well as Santa and the Tooth fairy.
Scott, I get the impression that your one man campaign to stand up against wrong doers in RL and make it an even simpler game, makes you feel special. Well guess what Scott? I don't care what other people say about you. I don't care if you interfere with farmyard animals or even if you lick windscreens.
You hang in there mate....because you truly are special
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Oh dear just warming up for the weekends great announcement at the Stoop? Of course this assumes something will be said by our great leaders.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Oh dear just warming up for the weekends great announcement at the Stoop? Of course this assumes something will be said by our great leaders.'"
I am actually looking forward to the announcement (should it come) as I believe that we have hit rock bottom and if there is to be a team/club next year, then the potential is massive.....and no, it's too early for me to have been drinking!
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| I think we may yet fall further.
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| Quote ="daftdad"I think we may yet fall further.'"
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| now in defence of Scott HKR he never actually said the RFL had done anything to keep London RL going, all he said was there had been "a lot gone in to trying to keep London in SL", did not say who by!! Mr Hughes could be the bloke he is talking about
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"now in defence of Scott HKR he never actually said the RFL had done anything to keep London RL going, all he said was there had been "a lot gone in to trying to keep London in SL", did not say who by!! Mr Hughes could be the bloke he is talking about'"
Not sure if you're fishing or being serious.....
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| actually he never said that the RFL had made any effort!!!
Be interesting to hear if that what you meant Scott???
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| Quote ="richie166"I'd love to know where the money to pay for all these extra refs/video refs/cameras/cameramen is going to come from.'"
Quote ="ScottHKR"Tbh, a lot of [size=200it[/size has gone into trying to keep a London team in super league.'"
Quote ="mickyb1234"now in defence of Scott HKR .......all he said was there had been "a lot gone in to trying to keep London in SL", ........did not say who by'"
Context is everything young Michael...context is everything......unless you want Mr Hughes to fund the refs, cameramen, cameras and video refs in Scotty's dream world
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| Gutters! I stand corrected! I have gone back and re read the original comment regards where the money has gone and I missed the IT, in there.
So on that ignore anything I said in defence of Scott regards to keeping London in SL
Scott! what makes you think the RFL has helped London financially! we are not Bradford, when we went into administration no money came from the RFL as far as I am aware, we got out of it ourselves.
Re the technology, there is at least one camera at every game! All am saying is having vid ref at 2 games each week and not others gives an unbalanced competition!
Non TV games rely on the I/G judge
Knowing the way the RFL do it the vid ref would be expected to do it for free bit like the interchange official.
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| It's worth having a read of the signatures if you want to imagine yourself in that situation where you are being lectured by a self-proclaimed RL expert from the M62 corridor in the pub after an away match.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"It's worth having a read of the signatures if you want to imagine yourself in that situation where you are being lectured by a self-proclaimed RL expert from the M62 corridor in the pub after an away match.'"
Comment no. 49 is spot on:
Quote Name: Craig Sandersock on Aug 13, 2013
Comments: It's a disgrace. Week after week we're cheated out of the two points, either by teams having better players than us (often Internationals), referees fixing the game against us or by us having to have sometimes five or six times as many players unavailable through injury as the other team. The RFL even force me to wear a pair of tracksuit bottoms that look like they're from the nineteen eighties and a scraggy polo shirt to complete my ridicule. Twice this season whilst leading games against our bitter rivals, Hull FC Adam Pearson has rung Big Nige and told him to change the scores. This has led to Big Nige (in between mouthfuls of pork pie and American Creme Soda) to ring the referee at half time and influence the result. And people wonder why I look so miserable all the time? '"
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