How fast would these clubs have gone under without a SC constraint and Sky money?

How when they get £25 Million sponsorship from Aviva compared to our 100 painted wagons, which is still so difficult to see however many motorway journeys you make!

They have much bigger squads and a competitive player market that makes ours look like chickenfeed and gates no much bigger than our best.

I'd also be approving of voting them out. Feel sorry for their supporters but not their club.

Maybe DH should put his money into bailing out the Bulls? He'd have some chances of getting a return on his investment there.

If DH had wanted to buy another club, he could have got his home town club, Swinton for half a crown!

Not in the days when they had the likes of John Stopford playing, he couldn't.

Hate to see any club having these sort of problems
And would hope that we would show our selves as bigger and better than them if it came to a vote, it should not be about getting our own back.
Good luck to Bradfurt there is too much history there for em to be allowed to go to the wall

Imagine..do you reckon the present directors and owners of Bradford have actually thought what the history of the club is worth, nothing really obviously, they do not value it, to place it in such a position in the first place, we need a million pounds, wow, what a crass statement and what was with the business plan, five, four, three, two, one years ago etc, franchise and all, obvious they have pulled the wool over everyones eyes including the RFL and the fans, I like Bulls fans, good honest folk and a credit to the club, just listen to what the big cheeses have to say about the situation on t'internet and BBC/Sky etc, all business plans and stakeholders, not RL people, are they even from Bradford, what about the local council, does anyone else care in the town, Vote none of the above.

Would we get the same help/aid/exsposure etc, if/when we are in the same position, take the points deduction on the chin and get on with it, simples

Just because a club has happened to exist for a while doesn't give them a divine right to continue.

No look at the Quins

No it doesnt but nor should it mean that the rest of the league? they are still reasonably supported (massively by our standards) and have a very strong track record in Superleague. Will we get a better replacemenrt? no. Apart from Leeds/Wigan and perhaps Warrington is suspect every other SL club is running on a knife edge. the economics of the game dont add up, if sky pulled the plug then the league would fold period, would have to go back to part time etc.

sad fact. but then most professional sport seems to be the same with a few exceptions usually bankrolled by a few wealthy individuals?

I think you'll find Quins are doing quite nicely.

Obvious and completely irrelevant.

Not really, its a main point that is being dragged up frequently like it is some sort of justification for a bail out. Glad you agree it is irrelevant however.

While you are quite correct , a long historical presence tends to be what ultimatly saves clubs in this position , the London club however doesn't have that to fall back on

What's irrelevant is your denial of a "divine right". Nobody on here has suggested invoking the Almighty in aid of the Bulls. So far from being a "main point", it's not a point made by anybody at all.

OK if you say so

it would seem it's not just RL on financial shaky ground, the Rah Rah boys are having a spot of bother themselves. Wasps say they only have enough money to see out the season, after that it's administration unless someone comes and buys them

Someone will buy Wasps though.

One answer to the financial problems in league; get rid of all the over-paid third rate Aussies and make the clubs play the youngsters from their Academies and the decent players from the Championship.

Pathetic that we've got 60 million people in these islands and we can't come up with 400 super league players.

The answer is to stop letting morons run our clubs (which are largely independent businesses). If you budget for making finals and winning silverware you're prob gonna go bust.

If the game had been expanded 100 years ago we would have more players than the aussies now and the game would probably be strong in Wales and Ireland and maybe worldwide. Soccer may still be the No.1 sport but we'd be a close no 2 i reckon.

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There are plenty of owners of rugby league clubs and in the North as well that just do not seem to have a clue! it is unbelievable that chairmen of successful clubs do not even attend Super League Chairman meetings were voting takes place to run the game, so many now want to reduce the number of club in Super League as they feel there will be more Sky money to share, do they seriously think Sky will pay the same monies for a 12 team league?

Chairmen of clubs complain in the public and media about the Stobart deal,the problem is some of them did not even attend the meeting to vote about the offer. So many fans felt that the deal was good for the game, I'm am still not sure how? I think you get a Blue Peter badge if you ever spot a branded lorry, but what does the branding mean to many who do see the trucks around the country, it could be for union many would no different, we could have gone with Betfair and paid for some trucks to be branded! When you look at the money paid for the sponsorship of the Union Premiership we look a joke.

The whole game not just our club is in a total mess, the situation at Bradford is a joke when they were so successful for so many years off the pitch, were did the money go? not on the ground! all that is happening now as happens with so many RL clubs is sticking plaster! a short term fix, the £1 million if raised will be gone in days and they still have to survive!

Those at the top in the RFL are clearly not doing a good job and so many club chairmen do not seem to have a real clue! is there any hope?