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| Quote ="wire-quin"
Can people not see that Hughesy has cut the cloth. We have lost Hill, Paul, Robinson, Maclinden and not replaced them. We lost 1.5 million last year- Its great talking about players of the past but the club went bust on poor crowds. We are in a transition period bringing through the Londoners.'"
The cloth has truly been cut and I suspect there is not one London RL fan who would blame David Hughes in any shape or form. The club is indeed in transition, the real worry is whether it will be around to come through the other side of the transition.
So much has remained unchanged, sod all marketing to boost the crowds, a playing kit that was seen by the masses for the 1st time today, most other clubs had replicas available before Xmas, we still do not even after the 1st game. The PA system was awful (not necessarily Quins RL's fault) and still when you are sitting there shivvering in the cold you cannot see the game because the bleedin sun is in your eyes. The only two stands where the sun has an impact are the ones used for Quins RL games....................has ANY thought gone into the match experience for thr fans
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| Quote ="Snoopy"If we can compress the opposition defenses under the post and whip the ball wide quickly to him so its a 'one - on - one' situation then he will score us loads of tries. However, BM never managed to do this with Dorn so I doubt he will manage it with BJB either. Lets pray for lots of broken play for him.'"
Tough one as defences on your line are taught to move up as one and slide.
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| On the basis of that perfromance its going to feel like a long season.
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| Quote ="DawgOnIt"Thought both sides better in defence than attack - not surprising for so early in the season (when I could see properly - why didn't I remember to bring my baseball cap
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Yes you should have brought a cap because you obviously did not see properly, penalties' against us your having a laaarrf mate what about those pens against us then clearly you did not see ALL those
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| So that's one win out of the last thirteen games - at least I got to that
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| Went better than I thought / worried pre game - thats said there is plenty of room for improvement, but some nice new touches and variations along with a solid defence (how tireless is Tronc??), some 'pre season' lack of cohesion and understanding and annoyingly too many errors and penalties (probably on the back of lack of match fitness). We were up against a HUGE pack and we matched it. What we didnt match was the creativity in the halves.
Poor show on the replicas, and I thought the crowd was pretty decent - I look forward to summer rugby though.
But most impressive, firstly the improved engagement by the club with the community with the excellent pre game tag tournament (hopefully many more of these to come) and secondly another London boy on debut (prouder still as he started as a junior at St Albans Centurions ).
So not the best start but from my perspective far more postives than negatives.
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| Quote So much has remained unchanged, sod all marketing to boost the crowds, a playing kit that was seen by the masses for the 1st time today, most other clubs had replicas available before Xmas, we still do not even after the 1st game. The PA system was awful (not necessarily Quins RL's fault) and still when you are sitting there shivvering in the cold you cannot see the game because the bleedin sun is in your eyes. The only two stands where the sun has an impact are the ones used for Quins RL games....................has ANY thought gone into the match experience for thr fans
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Match day experience is great- The band after the game was excellent. Im not sure what other RL club you base the poor match day experience against but having watched RL for 30 odd years living up north for a large proportion, and living in Sydney for 6 months watching matches every weekend at a variety of grounds the Quins day is without question the best.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Arhh back to the sun argument
Match day experience is great- The band after the game was excellent. Im not sure what other RL club you base the poor match day experience against but having watched RL for 30 odd years living up north for a large proportion, and living in Sydney for 6 months watching matches every weekend at a variety of grounds the Quins day is without question the best.'"
I guess it depends what you want from the day. To some the pre-match and post match stuff is important and I have no doubt that its very good. Personally as I do a 110 miles round trip by car to each home game I prefer to arrive at say 2pm and leave at the final whistle, so the important thing for me personally (and I know not for everyone) is match experience, not a match DAY experience and not the quality of the booze up and live music afterwards.
Its an undeniable fact that the sun spoils the viewing of the game and me personally (and again not everyones view) I would prefer to sit in my seat and not have to shield my eyes from the sun on a freezing cold January day.
So its all about appealing to all fans, sadly having the best after match party as we are continously told will NOT put bums on seats, its the thing that happens between 3pm and 4.40pm that will decide that and yesterday it was not a fun experience.
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| Quote So its all about appealing to all fans, sadly having the best after match party as we are continously told will NOT put bums on seats, its the thing that happens between 3pm and 4.40pm that will decide that and yesterday it was not a fun experience.
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I took a newbie yesterday who enjoyed the whole experience-He doesn't really understand the intricacies of league, more watched the game "generally"- He enjoyed the band and beer after the game also. Therefore his matchday experience(accepting the expectations are different to yours) was enjoyed.
The after match party may not put bums on seats but it could and does turn a £99 season tickets value to the club into lets say £300.(Not in your case as they have had there money of you as you have explained)
Travelling to London rugby is a down side compared to the average distance a Warrington fan would travel for example. I travel 60 miles round trip, I speak to people who travel 2 hours on the train, others who travel from Colchester etc. Thats life. I dont expect any more from the club because I dont live in Richmond.
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| I thought it was a pretty decent first outing. Some very good defence and a good basis on which to move forward, especially when you bear in mind Quins haven't really had a preseason outing. A few daft penalties given away. The art in this competition is steady progression and peak towards the end of it, not half way through June!
Didn't see the scuffle as was following play, but wasn't surprised Moore was involved. A bit surprised to find out they got red cards rather than yellow, especially as it wasn't a dirty game.
I don't really understand all the whingeing about match day experience. You can get a season ticket (seated) on the 30m mark (either) to watch topclass rugby league for £99! A peeked cap and sunglasses would deal with the problems the sun causes for most people. We come by train from Southend - not the easiet of trips thanks to 'weekend engineering works', and Quins aren't my first love (although they are Mrs ER's) but I thoroughly enjoyed yesterday (a win for Quins would have been better).
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| Bought the supporters shirt. Won't be buying the replica unless they bring out a 30 years in London heritage jersey...
Thought the team showed promise but at this stage it's too early to tell.
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| Can't understand how people are gauging any positives from that. Wakefield were terrible, we were even worse. No leadership, no creativity, mistakes, poor defence especially on the right hand side. Next weeks game will be a complete humiliation.
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| Oliver Wilkes was absolutely terrible. Why is Danny Orr being used as a 3rd prop, and why is Danny Ward playing like he's a stand off? Several players are just not good enough. Ben Jones Bishop is far too good for our team. If we are going to play such a boring brand of rugby then its no surprise people will fall away and crowds will drop instead of rising. I'm getting sick and tired of it tbh, and no longer look forward to a game like I used to because I know exactly what I'm going to get. A performance with no passion, players looking disinterested and McDermott talking complete rubbish post game.
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| Have to agree with you listy..
One of the worst games of Rugby League I have attended. Quins were horrible and The Wildcats not much better.
Will still head to the games to get a footy fix, but if I wasnt such a league fan I wouldnt bother. Quins were horrible, I get better dispays watching Queensland Cup.
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| I enjoyed it, clearly the weakest squad for many seasons but ill give them 5 games to show what they can do as a team. Wakey are decent and with a defence like that we have plenty to build on as fluency in attack comes with match practice.
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| Quote ="hindyscrack"Have to agree with you listy..
One of the worst games of Rugby League I have attended. Quins were horrible and The Wildcats not much better.
Will still head to the games to get a footy fix, but if I wasnt such a league fan I wouldnt bother. Quins were horrible, I get better dispays watching Queensland Cup.'"
Typical rubbish from a fan of a losing team and I fear a know all Aussie by the sound of it. We (Wakefield) were just fine, we won, away from home, that is all we needesd to do. If we don't have to get out of third gear to win then why should we, that as they say is your problem not ours.
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| Quote ="vastman"Typical rubbish from a fan of a losing team and I fear a know all Aussie by the sound of it. We (Wakefield) were just fine, we won, away from home, that is all we needesd to do. If we don't have to get out of third gear to win then why should we, that as they say is your problem not ours.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Typical rubbish from a fan of a losing team and I fear a know all Aussie by the sound of it. We (Wakefield) were just fine, we won, away from home, that is all we needesd to do. If we don't have to get out of third gear to win then why should we, that as they say is your problem not ours.'"
Know all Aussie right here...
All I did was say that both teams were rubbish, if you're happy with your team to risk losing games by only playing 'as well as they have to on the day' then fine. Great mentality up there in Wakefield.
As I've noticed on this board (by some), in the bar post game, and chatting with the group who I went to the game with we were all of the same opinion. The game was 3rd rate rubbish, neither team looked great with the ball in hand, error rate was horrendous (to be expected at the start of the season). Yes I am now a Quins fan, but I feel that I can actually step back and see the game in its true light without the glaze of a deluded fan.
If you think yesterdays game was a great advertisement for our game, I feel you are a bad judge.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Oliver Wilkes was absolutely terrible. Why is Danny Orr being used as a 3rd prop, and why is Danny Ward playing like he's a stand off? Several players are just not good enough. Ben Jones Bishop is far too good for our team. If we are going to play such a boring brand of rugby then its no surprise people will fall away and crowds will drop instead of rising. I'm getting sick and tired of it tbh, and no longer look forward to a game like I used to because I know exactly what I'm going to get. A performance with no passion, players looking disinterested and McDermott talking complete rubbish post game.'"
Agree 100%. Our attack, well ... what attack? If Wakey had the sun on their backs like we did first half then Brough would have rained balls down on us like it was the Blitz. Quins, well er no, let's go for the grubber (until 4.30pm when stuck one in the air in the near darkness). Maybe McD was sat in the Lexus to long and hadn't noticed nearly 4000 other people including the Wakey players shielding their eyes with the programmes!?
We may have had a great goal line defence, but I am sorry that will not win us any games if we can't create in attack - and I saw nothing on Saturday to convince me we can score form anywhere outside on the opposition 20m line.
BJB will be the new Will Sharp carting the ball up for the first three tackles. One talent now wasted for another.
BTW who was out man of the match in the WIN text voting?
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| I don't know whether it was the WIN text vote, but BJB was announced MOM and Players Player (won 2 bottles of Champagne).
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You've no chance of making the playoffs with that side.'"
We will just have to wait while September for that, one thing is for sure you certainly will not with that side, and of course we are 2pts nearer the play offs' than you
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