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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Well that`s the club anthem sorted....although the songs a bit `ruff` and the other clubs will think we are `barking`
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Youre moving to Barking ? , 1 St I've heard of that
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes, but thats in Australia where it doesnt rain all summer
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hahaha, don't believe the ads Starbug
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"hahaha, don't believe the ads Starbug
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It poured down on me in ' waterworld/land and movieland/world ' when I visited and that was in January , but at least there were no queues
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| Quote ="Starbug"It poured down on me in ' waterworld/land and movieland/world ' when I visited and that was in January , but at least there were no queues
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twas a poor, very wet summer. Sods law innit?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Do you think theyd let us play an otr game there next year? Looks like a great venue and has worked well in Oz playing TGG at cricket venues. Marketers dream too (get lost Gutterfax) as never been done before to my knowledge. Oval ball at the Oval?'"
It is a great venue, and Surrey CCC seem fairly innovative and proactive with marketing initiatives. (I think they'd do what they could to get the punters in even if our own club showed its usual inertia in that respect.) Unfortunately I think the clash of seasons would rule it out. Last day of cricket there this season is 7 September, and there's no way they'd let any code of football use it any earlier in the year than that. You're really only looking at October or November in terms of availability I think. If the Superleague season began and ended a month later it might be a goer.
Capacity is 23,500 and virtually the whole ground has been rebuilt during the last 25 years, so it's a fairly state of the art cricket ground these days with great corporate and members' facilities.
I saw the last Aussie Rules match there in October 2006 between Geelong and Port Adelaide and enjoyed it - I think it pulled around 15,000. (I'm not sure why it hasn't happened again since then, but don't think it's down to SCCC not wanting it.)
There's a football match due to be played there in early November this year between Royal Engineers and The Wanderers; the two clubs that contested the first ever FA Cup Final on the same ground in 1872.
The Oval probably has the best public transport links of any major sports ground in England. Only a couple of miles from the centre of the capital, it's got its own tube station with direct links to London Bridge, Waterloo, Euston and King's Cross, while Vauxhall tube/train station is only five minutes walk away, and there are various bus routes going in all directions.
Not sure I'd really want to watch RL in a cricket ground though. You'd be a long way from the action on at least some sides, depending exactly where the pitch was marked out. The Aussie Rules used the whole of the field and was marked out diagonally to the line of the cricket stumps.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"twas a poor, very wet summer. Sods law innit?'"
I forgot to mention , that was 9 years ago
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| London Broncos RL could played their 2012 home fixtures v St Helens, Huddlesfield (sic), Castleford, Wakefield, Bradford, Hull FC, Widnes and Catalans at the Oval, one after the other and still there would have been 1,237 EMPTY SEATS
Why, on gods blessed earth, would anyone want to take a game to a stadium that holds 23,500 when we are averaging less than 3,000
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| Quote ="gutterfax"London Broncos RL could played their 2012 home fixtures v St Helens, Huddlesfield (sic), Castleford, Wakefield, Bradford, Hull FC, Widnes and Catalans at the Oval, one after the other and still there would have been 1,237 EMPTY SEATS
Why, on gods blessed earth, would anyone want to take a game to a stadium that holds 23,500 when we are averaging less than 3,000
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To make an event? To encourage more fans to come? To do something original? Here comes the 14 point stat laden drivel from Gutterfax......
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"To make an event? To encourage more fans to come? To do something original? Here comes the 14 point stat laden drivel from Gutterfax......'"
Do you really think the club are capable of organising such a thing.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Do you really think the club are capable of organising such a thing.'"
Absolutely not.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"To make an event? To encourage more fans to come? To do something original? Here comes the 14 point stat laden drivel from Gutterfax......'"
Tell me, with the RL Pixies replace the cheerleaders at this "event"?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"d040.gif
Tell me, with the RL Pixies replace the cheerleaders at this "event"?'"
Why do empty seats matter? Doesnt bother most of the sides in the nrl or north of england.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Why do empty seats matter? Doesnt bother most of the sides in the nrl or north of england.'"
David hughes puts ₤1,500,000 of his own cash into the club every year.....7,528 is the average attendance needed to replace his money when he goes in 2014.......Ian Lenegan said every occupied seat was worth about ₤9.80 to the club. He also said that each fan was worth another ₤15 in revenue on match day.
2,876 is the average this year at the clubs "home" games
13 games a season, that's ₤366,402.40 in Gate receipts and another ₤560,820 in residuals.
Get your crowds up to 10,000 a game...that's an extra ₤907,597.60 in gate receipts and an extra ₤1,389,180 in residuals......
...that's why empty seats matter.
NRL clubs...Canberra are the worst supported...10,000 is their average and the current NRL TV deal is more for 1 season than SL gets for 5.....
SL Clubs......funnily enough, when priced and promoted well, they seem to do OK. Leeds, Wigan, Hull FC, Wire, Catalans....all average over 10k.....the others at least make the effort.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"David hughes puts ₤1,500,000 of his own cash into the club every year.....7,528 is the average attendance needed to replace his money when he goes in 2014.......Ian Lenegan said every occupied seat was worth about ₤9.80 to the club. He also said that each fan was worth another ₤15 in revenue on match day.
2,876 is the average this year at the clubs "home" games
13 games a season, that's ₤366,402.40 in Gate receipts and another ₤560,820 in residuals.
Get your crowds up to 10,000 a game...that's an extra ₤907,597.60 in gate receipts and an extra ₤1,389,180 in residuals......
...that's why empty seats matter.
NRL clubs...Canberra are the worst supported...10,000 is their average and the current NRL TV deal is more for 1 season than SL gets for 5.....
SL Clubs......funnily enough, when priced and promoted well, they seem to do OK. Leeds, Wigan, Hull FC, Wire, Catalans....all average over 10k.....the others at least make the effort.'"
I didnt say attendances dont matter. No need to roll out the stats netball boy. I said empty seats dont matter.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"I didnt say attendances dont matter. No need to roll out the stats netball boy. I said empty seats dont matter.'"
They do.....empty seats cost money. Open a stand and it's safety cert will require a number of stewards to be in attendance.....3 sides of the stoop holds about 12,000....76% of these seats are empty.
As for the netball boy comment......knock away if you must. I got them from 1,500 to 2,400 in one year.....60% up. Meanwhile, back at the TW2 ranch.......a decrease is the order of the day!
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| We couldn't even make a dent in the capacity of Underhill right now
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| Quote ="gutterfax"They do.....empty seats cost money. Open a stand and it's safety cert will require a number of stewards to be in attendance.....3 sides of the stoop holds about 12,000....76% of these seats are empty.
As for the netball boy comment......knock away if you must. I got them from 1,500 to 2,400 in one year.....60% up. Meanwhile, back at the TW2 ranch.......a decrease is the order of the day!'"
Wow you sure have reached the dizzy heights of sports marketing. Which NFL clubs are headhunting you for next season?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Wow you sure have reached the dizzy heights of sports marketing. Which NFL clubs are headhunting you for next season?'"
I am happy with a 60% increase in year one........it's a shame that 2,500 is the limit in the arena...I'd have them past the Broncos next year...
...feel free to post more funny stuff about netball.....it's live on SKY TV here and on Fox in 'stralia...it gets more viewers then NRL games not featuring the warriors, but hey ho.....as you were!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I am happy with a 60% increase in year one........it's a shame that 2,500 is the limit in the arena...I'd have them past the Broncos next year...
...feel free to post more funny stuff about netball.....it's live on SKY TV here and on Fox in 'stralia...it gets more viewers then NRL games not featuring the warriors, but hey ho.....as you were!
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Do they still have the ' mixed ' netball leagues at the bowling alley at Petone?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Do they still have the ' mixed ' netball leagues at the bowling alley at Petone?'"
Knocked it down.....I'm not sure where they are playing this year.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I forgot to mention , that was 9 years ago
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2 very wet summers in Australia in 10 years. NO!!!! Don't tell the tourists.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
I am happy with a 60% increase in year one........'"
That's a great result.
Can I ask if the team is successful on the Court as well? I would assume so.
Furthermore, what is roughly is the per capita marketing cost for this increased footfall?
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| Quote ="Simon M"That's a great result.
Can I ask if the team is successful on the Court as well? I would assume so.
Furthermore, what is roughly is the per capita marketing cost for this increased footfall?'"
Best season on the court for the team...won 5/lost 8........missed the play-offs (top 4) by 4 wins.
Cheap as chips....loads of footwork and player visits. Interestingly, if you call a school here and ask if the players (of any top tier club in any sport) can come along they (club and school together) will organise it around PE lessons...get a photographer involved and make an event of it.
Vouchers handed out at games for the next one....data collection, emailing updates etc....nothing that costs much....sales through schools and clubs, 5 tickets = one raffle ticket.....signed/framed shirts etc...
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Best season on the court for the team...won 5/lost 8........missed the play-offs (top 4) by 4 wins.
Cheap as chips....loads of footwork and player visits. Interestingly, if you call a school here and ask if the players (of any top tier club in any sport) can come along they (club and school together) will organise it around PE lessons...get a photographer involved and make an event of it.
Vouchers handed out at games for the next one....data collection, emailing updates etc....nothing that costs much....sales through schools and clubs, 5 tickets = one raffle ticket.....signed/framed shirts etc...'"
A combination of marketing and community , the more work you do and the more you can offer, the better the return
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| Quote ="Starbug"A combination of marketing and community , the more work you do and the more you can offer, the better the return'"
...it ain't rocket surgery...it's just a lot of hard work.
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