IIRC that was a “ surprise” defeat by what were assumed inferior troops. After a bit of tooling and froing and Rourkes Drift we hammered them with superior fire power. Our plan here seems to be to throw an inexperienced L1 manager into a really difficult situation and then bin him when it doesn’t work out. Then take exactly the same steps again with exactly the same type of manager. Good interview or not I fail to see how 40 point spankings by North Wales is a better indicator of success than 2 point wins over Swinton. Neither impress but as least TT is bedded in with the players and has some Champ experience.
As for the PL move, now that Man of Kent doesn’t post we have complete consensus on that. The only argument seems to be we have run down ET so badly in terms of on and off field product, marketing and fan engagement that it will fail so we have to go somewhere else. To be honest we could book a pitch at Hackney Marshes for £30 and charge the 50 or so attending an honesty “entrance” fee of £2, sell tea and coffee and buns have a cheap programme and we would definitely make a profit as opposed to PL where we will lose 10s of thousands.We won’t grow the game there because those losses are unsustainable.

I guess it was a surprise in as much as Chelmsford had 15000 well armed troops 10000 of which he sent to surround the Zulus in a place that weren't. He then sent half his remaining troops on a wild goose chase and his scouting was so poor he failed to notice the 20000 Zulus camped over the ridge. The rest is history as they say. If the Zulus has been better acquainted with the Martini Henry rifle, then Rorks Drift might of turned out different. Anyway calamitous planning & execution are without doubt on a par with Broncos.

Still no news about what went on then. Imagine my shock.

HT my guess is they’ve gone - Fev are successful. Fev are part time. We want to be successful we’re going part time. All the fans went silent. Taking this to be agreement they went on: we need a young progressive manager with L1 experience but not Tom Tsang. He keeps losing. So we’re binning him and getting in JC. And we’ll be raiding Skolars for their best prospects. They followed up by announcing that Wimbledon is going to a pedestrian only borough from October and anyone wanting to attend will need to jet pack in. They didn’t see any major problems with this as everyone has a jet pack.
At this point people started throwing things and the meeting broke up. At a wash up meeting Broncos management agreed it had been a successful fan engagement and the mood was largely supportive.

uncanny

If the "Article" doesn't get published soon, the pressure will be on WQ to step up to the plate & reveal all with a straight face.

If it takes this long to get out a summary of a meeting, is it any surprise the club is in the state it is.

I have to say I believe that you will be waiting a long time to be told by the club what occurred at the meeting.

By the way, WQ cannot tell you. He was not there.

I’ve got a summary from Jason for all the questions that were compiled on here.
They asked that they are not published as they will release them

I sent these questions through to J and J and have written responses

Communication;

Limited communication in 2021. Why has it been so limited.
Why isn’t communication consolidated and ‘official’ ie same messaging on email, FB, instagram, twitter……..
Some ‘official’ communication responsibilty appears to have been passed to some supporters. Is the wise??

Club strategy

Where is the club looking to be in 2, 5, 10 years?
The club appears to have gone from a mix of quality players from both the UK and Australia with a few academy players to one principally based on ex academy players. Is this the future?
Is there an ambition to get promoted to SL?
The coaching team has gone from 3 to 1 in a matter of weeks. Is the club looking to back fill the vacancies to a full compliment?

Wimbledon

There was an initial communication regarding Wimbledon from the CEO but nothing has followed. Is there more to come?
What is the plan for the move
Are we looking to ‘launch' the move as a new future for the club (Given the increased cost of the stadium) and will this mean a more competitive team

Supporters

Since The Stoop days the supporter base attending matches has dropped from 3-5000 to todays numbers of less than 1000 (Accepting the club is now in the championship). Are the club looking to win back the lost supporters and if so, how?
Can the supporters assist in promoting the club. At Brentford supporters delivered leaflets to the local community
Will the club be targeting new/different demographics as potential supporters
Buck & Dusty were part of the club branding (and attractive for the kids) are we looking to enhance the clubs branding?

You’ve put yourself out there, tell us what was said

You had best ask Jimmy.

WQ will we see the Broncos Magna Carta before Hell freezes over or some time after? If you don't know can you please ask them because the natives quite reasonably are getting restless.

Especially me!!

How much more good news can there be?

I’ve just dropped them an email

Ralph Rimmer found guilty at the Old Bailey of impersonating a competent RL Administrator & sentenced to 50 years penal servitude at Her Majesty's colony at Botany Bay.

Asked for several other offences to be taken into consideration including having a head shaped like a rugby ball.

That is surprisingly true BT. I would still vote for a Gilbert or Steeden to beat him if all 3 appeared on Mastermind.

He would miss the recording having arranged 17 consultation meetings about whether he should attend.

Hope they aren’t going to tell us they haven’t signed any players yet because they aren’t sure what league we’ll be in. That would just be taking the ...

Bad form. Has said on here that he was invited and had accepted and then has left a littering if bull posts alluding to him being in the know.........when all he actually did was email precis of this forum.
So the question is. Did anyone on here attend? Did anyone from total fascist attend? Did it even happen?
More smoke and mirrors from the club who will blindly continue as they are until Hughes keels over and then vanish up its own nether regions....they don't care about the lost fans....they know best apparently

What could they tell us that would give us any hope? The best I can think of is : the finances are there for another x years. It’s going to be a mess for 2 years but if we can stay up and bring through some players we think we can get back to where we are now by 2024.
It’s not keeping me up at nights waiting to hear that.

Received this email today:

Supporter Consultation Meeting - September 2021

First of all thank you for your support in 2021 and before that through the very difficult times of 2020. As a Season Pass Holder or Member you have given the club your backing in what turned out to be one of the most difficult periods in it's history and all of us at the Broncos are truly grateful for this.

We should point out at this stage that you have been added to this mailing list as a Season Pass Holder/Member because we wanted to give you an update on the recent Supporter Consultation held between the Club and a group of fans. If you do not wish to receive any further communication from the London Broncos please use the link below to unsubscribe. If you are happy to receive communication we will be sending regular updates on a variety of matters including Season Pass Information and Exclusive Pass Holder events, Supporter Consultations and other news that you, our loyal fans deserve to hear first.

As many of you will be aware we met with a group of supporters, selected for a variety of reasons which were explained to them on attendance, to try and allow the club to explain some of the recent decisions that have had to be made, give honest answers to speculation that has been made and to listen to the group's suggestions for ways to improve the relationship between Supporters and Club as well as ideas for ways to improve the overall Broncos experience. Below is a brief outline of the first meeting which was a very positive start to what we hope will become a regular monthly fixture.

September Supporter Meeting
Members of the clubs management enjoyed a positive first meeting with supporters last week as our first Supporter consultation took place in Central London.
 
Chief Executive Jason Loubser and Head of Commercial James Milner met with a group of Broncos long term fans to establish the potential for a focus group to become a regular feature and discuss the concerns of supporters as we come off the back of a very difficult period for the club.
 
This initial meeting was a relaxed general discussion however some questions were asked that we felt would be of interest to the wider fan base.
 
The first point raised was a concern over the team going part time in 2021 and how that leaves the clubs future in terms of ambitions of Super League. CEO Jason Loubser gave the group a detailed explanation of how the financial situation across the game is going through a huge change which is likely to result in the Broncos being hundreds of thousands of pounds worse off in 2022 than in 2021 and 2020. An estimate of 86% reduction in central funding is expected which is probably going to leave several clubs in serious problems so we are taking steps to ensure the club is stable and able to come back stronger in future seasons.
On top of this our owner David Hughes has been injecting huge amounts of cash in order to keep the first team Full Time in what is predominantly a part time competition and it has been decided that this simply cannot continue. 2021 has been very disappointing on the field for the First Team and the justification for spending the sort of money it takes to remain full time cannot be found. We have had some big positives with the Academy continuing to hold it’s own with Super League sides and our Ladies team doing themselves proud in their first ever season.
 
The group were reassured that whilst the playing staff would become part time players this was not a reflection of the club resigning itself to Championship Rugby League and the focus was now very much on marketing the move to Plough Lane and ensuring that we maximize the potential of that new beginning.
 
This led to further questions on the move to Plough Lane, how the club plans to build the average attendance, community engagement and memberships. It was explained by James Milner that the focus will be a milt-pronged attack on several groups including, but not exclusively, families, community club partners, AFC Wimbledon Fans and the event seeker. It was explained that making elite sport affordable to families in London was a key part of the plan with attention going on family season tickets in our Community section which will contain a no-alcohol zone. This will also hopefully give those who prefer not to be around Alcohol an opportunity to enjoy the game in separate surroundings.
 
Positive discussions have already started with our community club partners around their involvement in the Community stand, playing curtain raisers and being mascots ahead of First Team Games and their feedback has been very good.
 
It was explained that several Home fixtures will be planned as ‘events’ with specific target markets being catered for to try and attract new supporters via a ‘side door’ and other reasons to attend the game such as live music, a ‘theme’ around matches such as an ‘80’s music event’ or Street Food/Real Ale festival.
 
The club officials also suggested a new style membership scheme could be offered if this can be facilitated by our ticketing partners and the Lough Lane system which would see supporters be able to support the club in a number of ways, some of which not involving a large upfront payment but still reward them for their loyalty by attending games.
 
Away from the room our supporter who unfortunately was taken ill emailed some interesting questions which were answered remotely. These included a question on poor communication from the club in 2021 with a specific mention of communication not being consolidated across all social media channels. The clubs response to this was that we communicated as much as possible in 2021 but for much of this year there was simply no updates possible. It has always been felt that if the club puts out an update that says nothing it would be criticized for not really saying anything but if it says nothing at all it is still criticized. On the specific issue of Plough Lane we held a dignified silence throughout much of the process as it was not our business to be communicating to fans about something that was not official. This was widely praised by fans of AFC Wimbledon on social media. On the question of Social media the club feels the output is significantly improved in 2021 and everything is absolutely consolidated across all channels.
Due to GD PR regulations the club is about to reset it’s marketing database and ask any supporter who wishes to be communicated with to sign up to a new database so emails will go out far more regularly in future.
 
A further question from the same absent supporter was asked regarding the change from a squad that was a mix of quality players from the UK and Australia to one that is majority Academy products and is this the future? The clubs response on this was that above all else the current financial climate is the main thing dictating how we build our squad. Many clubs in our division, and potentially Super League, have players funded by ‘Squad Builder’ initiatives from supporters and other innovative ways to assist and we are open to discussions on this but in the main the club will only sign players within a pare-agreed wage structure and who fulfill the attributes to fit into the culture we intend to create at the London Broncos.
Signing players from Australia is no longer an easy option given the current visa regulations and leaving the EU rules out the EU Passport holder option too. However the club still has several contacts in Australia speaking to the CEO with potential options and we would never rule out bringing in overseas players with potential, in fact we are in current dialogue with Australian and Kiwi players as well as many British based athletes.
 
We would encourage supporters to email any questions they have to hello@londonbroncosrl.com and if the supporters focus group feel they should be asked we will certainly do our best to answer them. We are also keen to add to the group, specifically with another female supporter, young supporter (under 25) but also a couple of additional long standing London Rugby League fans who want to make a positive difference to the future of the club. Again, please just email hello@londonbroncosrl.com and we will try to add people on a first come first served basis to the group.

Thank you for taking the time to read this lengthy email. As mentioned earlier if you prefer not to be contacted by the Club again please click the unsubscribe link below.

They are right It is a long email. Does it say very much? Not really. They appear to be planning for a future so I that is a plus. They have about 5 months to get things in place - basically from zero: no players, no staff, very few fans. Let’s hope they can turn this around a little......

But it shouldn't have come to this for London Broncos, it really shouldn't! The club is at one of it's lowest ebbs for years - and what's more it was largely avoidable.
If at any time in the last 5, or last 10 years they had engaged with the fans we could have told them all this stuff. Events, community engagement , family involvement etc....

I genuinely hope they are going to try and turn this around, but I'm also a big fan of deeds rather than words. And all I'm seeing right now is words, a lot of words in that email....................