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| And I see black cabs with advertising on them when I am in London a couple of times a week and I could not tell you what they had on their side.
HTH
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| Thats because you are anti London Broncos Paddock-BOOOOOOOOOH
If it said free cider around the corner you would note it- BoooooH
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| Quote ="east stander"Thats because you are anti London Broncos Paddock-BOOOOOOOOOH
If it said free cider around the corner you would note it- BoooooH'"
I am anti wasting money which could be spent on the team which is what would improve things!!!!! We could be called the London Platinum All Stars and have diamond encrusted gold shirts but if we had the squads of the last few years things would be exactly the same. On the other hand we could be called the London Dog Turds and have a pile of steaming poo as our logo and play in a nice shade of brown shirt but if we were winning and playing attractive rugby then the situation would change for the better.
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| I hope people pay more attention to cab than me. I walk past Aldershot station cab rank every working day. I have just tried to think of every company I have seen advertise on a cab there and can only think of one. (BAE who have a big place in Farnborough.) Even then that has more to do with the fact the bloke who drives it was until recently my next door neighbour and I walked past it a few hundred times when it was parked outside my house.
Having said that it is good to see the club making an effort. We are surely 3 years away from oblivion if it doesn't take off this time so I hope they've got it right.
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| Are you guys going to change your badge?
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| What sort of take off are people expecting? Cas, Wakey, Salford, Hudds, Widnes, all have poor crowds.
Strange that some people don't find watching the same 4 teams beat up on the othe 10 year after year a huge attraction
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| Quote Are you guys going to change your badge?'"
Have you just come out of a coma
Have a look at the top of the page or the pics of the new kit. If you cant find it it is a blue and black horses head with London Broncos underneath in black and blue within a silver shield.
You wont be suprised to know the kit is black and blue
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| I think it's time to brush down my old London Broncos top.
It's Peter Lupton's old playing shirt, complete with his name and sqaud number (1icon_cool.gif on the back, got from the days when I was part of the sponsorship group.
Mind you, the old 'Virgin' logo is pretty much peeled off.
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| Does it still fit Jonesey?
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| Quote ="east stander"Have you just come out of a coma
Have a look at the top of the page or the pics of the new kit. If you cant find it it is a blue and black horses head with London Broncos underneath in black and blue within a silver shield.
You wont be suprised to know the kit is black and blue'"
Why hasnt it changed on the main forum page? If you are still playing at the stoop i dont see the point in changing your name? Will you still be there. Cant believe you have signed fat hickey off us your scouts need a brain transplant.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Why hasnt it changed on the main forum page? If you are still playing at the stoop i dont see the point in changing your name? Will you still be there. Cant believe you have signed fat hickey off us your scouts need a brain transplant.'"
Scouts? Lol.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Why hasnt it changed on the main forum page? If you are still playing at the stoop i dont see the point in changing your name? Will you still be there. Cant believe you have signed fat hickey off us your scouts need a brain transplant.'"
we use cubs and brownies, as for the logo, amazing isn't it, we pay £1000.00s each season to run this board on RLfans, and the b@stards cannot even do something as simple as that, this is what happens when you have a Cas fan as admin.
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| I'm heavily outnumbered by the Saints fans ...
Anyway, I changed you forum name within minutes of the announcement. And remember, I'm a journalist: I do words, not pictures
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"And I see black cabs with advertising on them when I am in London a couple of times a week and I could not tell you what they had on their side.
HTH'"
As you said..
Quote ="Paddock Punter"I am no marketing expert'"
You asked what the difference was between 5,000 plastic wallets and 10 Black cabs. I gave you the answer.....marketing is about eyeballs....how many people can potentially see your message......you didn't like the response so you are now bringing your opinion into the issue.
A TV advert is sold on a pricing system of how many people watch a particular programme....a Bill Board is sold on how many people pass it in a day and a cab livery is also sold on potential reach......Oyster cards were given to 5,000 people....after day 1, they are simply a plastic cover for a travel card......seen by nobody apart from the same 5,000 people until they fall apart.
Your ability to either block out or ignore marketing messages on cabs is neither here nor there.....as I said, even if I was 90% out on my calculations, the cabs would still generate 3.5 times more "sightings" in 1 day than the oyster cards would have done since they were handed out.
I was with you on the name change and I still think in the long term it will make little or know difference to the clubs fortunes, but it did give the club a moment in the limelight.....and will do again on Saturday. I know you're upset about your trews becoming obsolete, but they will look very snazzy when paired with the bluey/mariney away shirt
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| Advertising on cabs costs quite a lot, doesn't it?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Advertising on cabs costs quite a lot, doesn't it?'"
I think it could be around £300 per month per cab but happy to be corrected.
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| Quote ="tb"I'm heavily outnumbered by the Saints fans ...
Anyway, I changed =#0000FFyou forum name within minutes of the announcement. And remember, I'm a journalist: =#0000FFI do words, not pictures
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ah the ironing board of it all........
Does crayoning for the beano count as being a journo these days?
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I think it could be around £300 per month per cab but happy to be corrected.'"
I believe you are about right.
Ergo, 18,000 + design costs for 6 months and potentially between 900k and 1.8 million views PER DAY for 12 times the spend of 5,000 oyster cards SEEN BY THE SAME 5,000.
...........even if I am 90% wrong on the cab=eyeballs calculations, 90,000 per day over 182 days is 16,425,000 v 5,000 oyster cards.........
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| Whilst not knocking the cab advertising, and at £300 a month it seems pretty cheap, I don't know how you measure success - which would be critical for me in any marketing spend.
I'd also question who reads cab advertising (although that is serendipitously eye catching as it's black/blue/silver). It's one thing seeing a message, it's another one to process it.
Having said that, at £300 a months I'd probably do more and for longer. I don't know if you could voucher inside the cabs also.
Whilst the Oyster card holders are equally difficult to measure success with, and obviously a waste now we're not Quins, at least 5000 people see them every day - and if they are from Twickers they are probably rugby watchers, even if not League.
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| Quote ="east stander"Does it still fit Jonesey?'"
It should do, although it might be a little 'snug' around the lower torso.
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| Quote ="kit80"if they are from Twickers they are probably rugby watchers, even if not League.'"
some were handed out at canary wharf
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| Quote ="kit80"Whilst not knocking the cab advertising, and at £300 a month it seems pretty cheap, I don't know how you measure success - which would be critical for me in any marketing spend.
I'd also question who reads cab advertising (although that is serendipitously eye catching as it's black/blue/silver). It's one thing seeing a message, it's another one to process it.
Having said that, at £300 a months I'd probably do more and for longer. I don't know if you could voucher inside the cabs also.
Whilst the Oyster card holders are equally difficult to measure success with, and obviously a waste now we're not Quins, at least 5000 people see them every day - and if they are from Twickers they are probably rugby watchers, even if not League.'"
I'd suggest at this point , that the Black Cab advertising isn't a magic potion that will suddenly result in sell outs at the Stoop , but just the first part of a campaign , it creates recognition of future initiatives
Am I right GF ?
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| Im a journalist now but studied marketing as part of my degreeb and have dealings with pr peeps on a daily basis I have also worked for the darkside for a while too. I have always in the under the line camp.
Its not just how many people respond to x advert, marketing is about supporting a core message and about reinforcing that.
We get no press coverage and do very little to merit it so we need other ways to reach people.
The cabs wont have an enormous effect, but will serve to remind a few people that we exist, and should therefore be applauded, same with the oyster cards, just that the problem with the oyster cards was that it was the only marketing spend last year and seemed a strange use of money.
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| The Chronicle has been very good to Rugby League the last 12 months from Us to West London Sharks etc.
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