I thought Briers was very poor yesterday. Seems to be a spent force.

King is a scapegoat, but he wasn't their worst player yesterday. Briers put in one decent kick all game, neither of their hookers did anything, they just looked like they were making up the numbers.

Just after Chris Mellings length of the pitch try, a massive Wolves fan stood up from his seat & walked down the stairs to the pitch side.
He then took off his club shirt, rolled it up & tried to set light to it.
After numerous attempts, he gave up & threw the shirt to the ground & steamed off in to the Kings Bar.
Kind of sums up their day doesn't it !!!!!!

lol

I saw the shirt on the floor, but didn't realise he had tried to set fire to it.

It wasn't on the floor long though, another Warrington fan ran down the steps and pocketed it!

what a fine bunch they are

I thought they were alright, there were quite a few in the quins side keeping quiet who all stayed for the whole 80 minutes. In the bar before the game they were all friendly (maybe partly cos Liverpool were beating Man Utd!)

Obviously one of those cheering on Liverpool v Manchester United in the bar beforehand, so at least one of his teams won!

Matt King has been (at the best) very average and nothing like the hyped-up player before we signed him; but this is very typical of Warrington, we sign a world class player (allegedly) and make then very ordinary

Briers simply isn't the Briers of old anymore : it was well known he had a very good working relationship with Paul Cullen and that his relationship with Monaghan isn't so clever

to be honest, whilst I didn't go the Quinns game you have to understand that Warrington have zero confidence (for whatever reasons) at present and until this returns we will just remain in a spiral

King was in fine form seasons 05-07, but then again he was playing with some great teams in this time. Dont know what has happened to him since arriving in the UK but he looks to be low on confindence and very frustrated.

I'd be ropable if I were a wire fan, they have some quality players but their defensive line is like that of Western Suburbs 1999.

One thing that happened to him was Richie Mathers.

[url=http://www.warringtonwolves.org/news/Wolves38610.inkfair play[/url....he still a waste of money though. Didn't clubb find him in his kit bag on the way home from last years game at the wire

The shirt was picked up by a lad sat in front of me, he was not a wire fan, he was one of ours, think he was hoping to put it on ebay!! a couple of young kids nearly picked it up

As for Matt King, he got the hassle due to fact he was closest to the fans on the wing, so a bit unfortunate for him, he was out of order giving the finger and get a feeling that if it gets back to the RFL he will be in bother, he was getting some nasty nasty comments tho
Did think the Briers chant "Briers for Widnes" was hilarious! the Wire fans sat behind me could not even stop themselves giggling at that and they agreed

I know its been said several times and on several threads, but having tried it, using the single stand is not good, ok stand looks pretty full but what does that acchieve
3 lads who I sat close to in first half, who are new to the game!!!! started coming last year and sat in the "lexus" They were not happy with the east stand, they are walk up fans so buy tickets on the day, got told they could not be given tickets sitting together, and dislike the fact we are facing the sun and so far from the pitch
LETS bring back use of the lexus for home fans!!!!

Let's get an average of 5,000 at every game and then re-open discussions about the lexus.
The club can't afford to
a/ p155 off sky and the bbc
b/ employ the stewards and staff to man the pumps

Yes, the east isn't ideal, but if everyone was lumped into the Lexus bar we'd all die of thirst.

He appologised today, according to Radio 5.

haha,

he's previously been busted for flipping off St George fans!

But is there not a danger we are restricting growth by having so little choice of seating? Pushing people to the edges, sitting separately from family/mates? It doesnt seem right to me. We should have away fans behind the goal and home fans in the East.

There is no chance of me bringing anybody new along this year because of this exact problem. There are no seats at all around my seat, even though i'm in the poverty area.

I understand the reason for the closure of the LV stand, and the costs that can be saved.

Personally I think that the away fans should be placed behind the sticks at one end. I've been to the Manly game and the Wigan game (missed the weekend due to other commitments). We were a walk up at the wigan game, quite early I must add, as there were four of us we could only get tickets two rows back. All three guests were first timers (one an AFL fan), and it didnt add to the experience at all. Poor view, the walkway in front of the field.

At the moment we are severly limiting our chances of bringing extra fans, and I can see the crowds sitting around the 3500 mark all season due to this.

Any thoughts? Perhaps putting away fans behind the sticks, and or having a cheap ticket days against clubs such as Cats or Crusaders for a fiver? Works well at FFC for the low drawing away teams to fill the neutral end.

I thought the whole point of the arrangements this season was to just open up the minimum number of stands neccessary. However, the North Stand seems to be open just for a handful of folks so why not just plan to put all the away fans in there.

Quote Wolves centre Matt King has asked for the following statement, written by him, to be released through Warringtonwolves.com, the official website of Warrington Wolves, it reads: "I've decided to write the following statement as an apology to the club and particularly the fans of Warrington Wolves. The decision to make this statement was made by me alone and I have not been asked by anyone connected with the club to come forward and make a statement. Saturday afternoon's defeat at Harlequins was a very disappointing and frustrating afternoon for the players, fans and officials of this club. I understand the fans that had made the trip at some expense must have been very disappointed and I can tell you the players were even more so. Defeats like what we saw on Saturday really do hurt us, as I understand they do the fans as well. During the second half I received a barrage of personal abuse directed at me from a section of our 'support'. The abuse culminated over a period of time before I reached my breaking point and I snapped. Being only human I retaliated verbally and with a hand gesture to the said 'supporters'. I would like to apologise for any offence caused to any supporters, especially families and young children that were sat in this area. As a professional rugby league player I understand I have an example to set and many young supporters see me as a role model. I take pride in how I handle myself and always try to set a good example for others to follow on and off the field. My reaction to the abuse was out of character for me, but as I said before, I had reached my breaking point. Once again can I reiterate my sincere apologies for any offence caused. This statement has been written with sincerity and I hope the good supporters of Warrington Wolves will accept it." Matt King'" www.warringtonwolves.org/news/Wolves38610.ink

Quote Wolves centre Matt King has asked for the following statement, written by him, to be released through Warringtonwolves.com, the official website of Warrington Wolves, it reads: "I've decided to write the following statement as an apology to the club and particularly the fans of Warrington Wolves. The decision to make this statement was made by me alone and I have not been asked by anyone connected with the club to come forward and make a statement. Saturday afternoon's defeat at Harlequins was a very disappointing and frustrating afternoon for the players, fans and officials of this club. I understand the fans that had made the trip at some expense must have been very disappointed and I can tell you the players were even more so. Defeats like what we saw on Saturday really do hurt us, as I understand they do the fans as well. During the second half I received a barrage of personal abuse directed at me from a section of our 'support'. The abuse culminated over a period of time before I reached my breaking point and I snapped. Being only human I retaliated verbally and with a hand gesture to the said 'supporters'. I would like to apologise for any offence caused to any supporters, especially families and young children that were sat in this area. As a professional rugby league player I understand I have an example to set and many young supporters see me as a role model. I take pride in how I handle myself and always try to set a good example for others to follow on and off the field. My reaction to the abuse was out of character for me, but as I said before, I had reached my breaking point. Once again can I reiterate my sincere apologies for any offence caused. This statement has been written with sincerity and I hope the good supporters of Warrington Wolves will accept it." Matt King'" www.warringtonwolves.org/news/Wolves38610.ink

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Spot on.

I think if you turn up as a walk up, having been a previous ST holder (not me), and are told the only seats available are in the away end of the stand - how many more times are you going to come? This happened to a friend of mine on Saturday!

I originially came to watch Quins as I was missing live RL. I enjoyed the quins atmosphere and over the last three years have attended more home games than I've missed. Why did I like it? because I could turn up on the day and get decent seats with the people I wanted to sit with. My partner is now a quins fans and convert to RL.

Both home games they've had to have stewards for the South Stand. Why not make the north stand unreserved seating for away fans and then have the majority of the east stand for the home fans? You'd also get a bit more atmosphere too, as both sets of fans would be able to hear each others support. On Saturday, sat in AG I couldn't hear or see the wire fans.

Absolutely. All respect to GF's growing insider insight, I'm afraid the "can't afford it" is just not a rational commercial argument, and needs to be seriously re-thought.

Even though the club's new customer aquisition budget is not as high as it'd like I'm sure, it is still very significant - especially when you factor in the community team investment (who's primary purpose, lest we forget, and I sometimes fear the club does, is to build audience and SELL TICKETS). New customers who are actually attracted to sample a game represent the tip of a very broad communications pyramid, and as such it is absolutely vital that they are given the best possible experience we have to offer, to maximise conversion rates to "repeat customer" and over time further to "supporter"... otherwise, we shouldn't bother investing in the promotional activity in the first place. Conversion from sample to repeat buy is probably THE most important success (and I mean financial) metric for the business.

For example, the idea that this club invests in a massive community programme, the end result of which is that the community sales are situated in an end block or even (as we witnessed on Saturday) in a mainly empty, souless temporary stand behind the sticks is a criminal waste of all the work that has gone into getting them there in the first place. We have the ability (capacity of better seats) to offer them a better experience, and should make sure we do so. The logic that we "cannot afford it" ultimately leads to the conclusion that we cannot afford our strategy to build audience.

When you look at it like that, you might prioritise the extra overhead of using high quality product in the Lexus/LV over another cost. Business is hardly ever about "can't afford", but nearly always instead "have decided something else is more important", and here the wrong choice has been made.