I have just received the home and away player shirts for Dixon (we sponsored him). No sign of the signed team photo; perhaps they are to be sent separately. Just a covering note in the packaging saying thanks for the sponsorship and that everyone is working hard to secure the long term future of the club and that it was challenging but they hoped to have some news soon.

The BBC report that "Barnet are to appeal against an enforcement notice from Harrow Borough Council over the height of the West Stand and floodlights at The Hive.

"Should the appeal go against The Hive there are simple remedies in terms of restructuring the stand and the floodlights," a club statement said.

Barnet say they would be able to lower the height of both, but insist the council was aware the height of the West Stand had been increased and that the floodlights had been made taller to reduce light pollution to surrounding properties.

"The council were aware of this change [in the West Stand height and officers supported this minor amendment at a recent planning meeting," the club said.

"Once The Hive realised floodlights may cause an issue for those close to the site, a remedy was sought.

"Acting as a good neighbour and in order to lessen this problem, they decided to spend an extra £30,000 and increase the height of the floodlight masts by 10 metres so that they can be aimed down by an angle greater [and cause less light spillage to adjoining properties.

"At every stage of the building process the council have been kept aware of progress and the feedback received was that there were no significant areas of concern."

The club moved to The Hive this summer after leaving Underhill, their home since 1907, because of lease issues with Barnet Council.

And they believe the latest problem has been caused, in part, by "political instability" within Harrow council, which led to the planning permission process becoming "painfully slow".

The club statement added: "The appeal will be heard by an independent inspector who will evaluate the application by The Hive and make a judgement as to whether the club has acted in a fair and reasonable manner, or not.

"We are confident that the behaviour and intentions throughout were exemplary.

"Should the judgement go against The Hive with regard to the height of the stand it is a relatively straight-forward operation to alter its dimensions, as is the lowering of the floodlights."

pah I got poo pood when I said nothing would happen until the RFL meeting on the 9th

I got a similar reaction back in 2002 when I told the club they needed to market themselves properly!!!!!

Marketing is completely irrelevant when your dishing up complete ****e on the pitch. Get over it.

You can spend all the money on the planet, but if the product is not right, it will make no difference, that's about the first thing you learn in marketing.

Strangely, you two seem to think that I wasn't aware that the product helps when marketing/selling. Not sure where you got that impression, but I am sure you will continue to say it, even though there are actually plenty of examples of successful turd polishing I can point to.

Nobody has ever said a winning team wouldn't help, but that spectacularly misses the point of my post...




We haven't been since 2002......but you two, RL fans version of the old codgers in the muppets, like to sit there and throw out comments from your lofty heights anyway.

Glad that someone else agreed with me! the way you talk it often comes over that you think the only problem and answer to our situation is marketing.

Maybe if you marketed yourself better we wouldn't perceive you as so annoying?

If the club had marketed themselves properly back in 2002, then we wouldn't be in this situation now. I never said that Marketing NOW would solve anything, but you carry on having a dig at me anyway...it'll detract from the cluster unfolding at the club.

I tend to agree with GF on this and certainly against the naysayers. If since 2002 if is the start of the demise then alarm bells should have rung back then.

The infrastructure and player/fan relationships started to break down about the time Brian McDermott arrived. From being an open to fans/inclusive sort of place he was against all the socialising that had gone on before and didn't encourage the aftermatch meetings. Back room staff left, volunteers were not treated well, Chris Warren went on to better things and the friendly club that we had known virtually disappeared. Powell didn't help on or off the field and the rest as they say - will likely be history .. . . . . . . in a couple of weeks maybe?

The Community feel/volunteers will need to be recovered if the club is going to survive............whomever is investing in the team needs to understand that IMHO.

As an aside, you can successfully market s**t - look at the number of people that buy Pot Noodles.

...and Rugby union

Well I for one won't get involved while a certain person is still within 100 miles of the club.

Buck? Dusty?

We've sold them to Findus.

They'll never Findus we are almost invisble!

Dialect joke alert!!!

Well as said for a while it is looking as if Wednesday will be the day, it is said the club will after discussions reveal the future plans. It is being said we are looking at South Sea Island players who are competing in the world cup. Reports say we have offered reduced contracts to two senior players.

Wednesday looks like being some day. Ian Lenagan is trying to hold a Super League meeting today or tomorrow, unhappy at the way Super League is being run (at last!) and the plans being pushed through, Clubs supporting him are Warrington, St Helens, Hull, Hull KR, Huddersfield and London, noteworthy no Leeds! who seem to be close Red Hall in more ways than one.

This wednesday?

Yes, the EGM of RFL!