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| Quote ="Bilko"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/london/8084035.stm'"
After reading that the Rfl does not have a scooby. Change flights after booking with Ryan air
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| Craig Spence at the RFL should be sacked immediately for coming out with that pile of sh[size=9.[/sizeit.
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| snip.
Really should control my emotions.
Let's just say I do not believe the quote on the BBC site attributed to our General Manager....
"We obviously made a representation at the time saying that this is going to seriously impact on a group of our supporters".
yeah right ........but decided not to tell anyone until it became obvious that we had really c0cked this up.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"1.SKY called the RFL to see if the fixture could be moved.
2. The RFL called the club and a member of staff (no name was given to me) said that as we didn't have many fans who go to away games, there was no problem as far as Harlequins Rugby League were concerned (I WILL COME BACK TO THIS)'"
Do you really believe the 'individual' involved glibly accepted this ? Maybe, the RFL made it clear there was no room for manouvre ? Maybe numbers were never discussed ?
I struggle to understand why you are constantly siding against the club nowadays. I thought this was the domain of DL and you were more constructive, well these days all you come out with criticism, I sense as a result of a massive frustration that things are not moving as quickly as we all would like ?
Bottom line, people keep saying this is year 1 of a 3 year programme - things will not turn around in a matter of months - the proof will be in the pudding at the end of year 3 or next time the franchises come round. I am sure no one at the club is under any illusion here or do you think they just dont care ?
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| Once again GF thanks for your efforts.
Having read the series of events you have posted there appears to be one significant breakdown in the chain that appears to be the casual link to the problem, and that is who is the formal point of contact at the club.
The biggest away support that Ive seen at the games Ive been to is Catalans. The last 2 trips we've had a large support.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"I struggle to understand why you are constantly siding against the club nowadays. I thought this was the domain of DL and you were more constructive, well these days all you come out with criticism, I sense as a result of a massive frustration that things are not moving as quickly as we all would like ?'"
So it's OK for the club to announce the fixture change in a two liner on the website, bury their heads in the sand for 6 days, then announce that they objected on the grounds that it would bugger a group of our fans ........................only when pressed into it by the BBC?
Sorry, but IF a strong objection was lodged at the time, then why not announce it there and then?
As for siding against the club, I did no such thing. I simply wanted to ensure that this didn't happen to anyone else in future.
As for things not moving as quickly as I like Too fri99in right! Down 500 odd per game so far this season and 800 since our last season at Brentford.....there's progress for you.
I have always offered constuctive criticism (or tried to), but this Catalan fiasco is beyond comprehension.
Simply put....it could have been handled a whole lot better than it has.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So it's OK for the club to announce the fixture change in a two liner on the website, bury their heads in the sand for 6 days, then announce that they objected on the grounds that it would bugger a group of our fans ........................=redonly when pressed into it by the BBC?
Sorry, but IF a strong objection was lodged at the time, then why not announce it there and then?
As for siding against the club, I did no such thing. I simply wanted to ensure that this didn't happen to anyone else in future.
As for things not moving as quickly as I like
Too fri99in right! Down 500 odd per game so far this season and 800 since our last season at Brentford.....there's progress for you.
I have always offered constuctive criticism (or tried to), but this Catalan fiasco is beyond comprehension.
Simply put....it could have been handled a whole lot better than it has.'"
Sorry the expanded announcement was on the web site before Rammos show. For what its worth I have emailed Craig Spence asking for any proof as to the club saying not many would be going - not holding my breath for a reply.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Sorry the expanded announcement was on the web site before Rammos show. For what its worth I have emailed Craig Spence asking for any proof as to the club saying not many would be going - not holding my breath for a reply.'"
you wont get it.
QUINS RELEASE ON SITE
"When we were notified of the proposed change, we did express concerns that this would seriously disrupt our travelling supporters as many had already finalised their plans based upon the original date of Saturday 18th July.
Whilst being sympathetic to this fact the RFL still chose to move the fixture and, under our franchise agreement, we are obviously obliged to fulfil the fixture".
RFL COMMENT
Harlequins didn't believe many fans were making the trip" AND "Harlequins believed that those fans making the trip were staying for a week"
Someone is shall we say, being economical with the truth here.
I have burnt many bridges well and truly over this and I wasn't even booked to go out
I can honestly say that if this whole sorry episode ensures that SKY never do this again, then the loss of contact (s) will have been worth it.
I still say for any member of the club to say we don't have many travelling fans, whislt patently obvious, is also bang out of order.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"Craig Spence at the RFL should be sacked immediately for coming out with that pile of sh[size=9.[/sizeit.'"
What riled me most was the patronising comment that we should be flattered that Catalans v Quins is regaded as an attractive fixture. Surely no more so than Huddersfield (having their best SL season) at home to Warrington (resurgent under Tony Smith following a nightmare start) or the clash of two relatively big clubs (Bradford v Wigan) both of which were already scheduled for Sunday afternoon and could have been broadcast instead.
When every home Catalans fixture has been played on the original date announced at the start of the season since they joined Superleague three and a half seasons ago there was no reason for anyone to suspect this would be an exception.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"What riled me most was the patronising comment that we should be flattered that Catalans v Quins is regaded as an attractive fixture. Surely no more so than Huddersfield (having their best SL season) at home to Warrington (resurgent under Tony Smith following a nightmare start) or the clash of two relatively big clubs (Bradford v Wigan) both of which were already scheduled for Sunday afternoon and could have been broadcast instead.
When every home Catalans fixture has been played on the original date announced at the start of the season since they joined Superleague three and a half seasons ago there was no reason for anyone to suspect this would be an exception.'"
Exactly! We're supposed to be flattered about the game being moved! What utter b******s! See that some Wire fans are worried their Barca trip might go the same way! As for people spending the week in the South of France maybe some will but I'm sure most would be going on Friday or Saturday to return on Sunday. Would be great if a nice 'Up yours Sky' banner could be held up at the Leeds game (televised)! Or maybe some kind of chant including the words Murdoch, Sky, satellite dish, stick , up your, a**e?
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| [size=75Would this be a bad time to mention i'm pleased about this decision as it means I can watch it on TV? [/size
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"Exactly! We're supposed to be flattered about the game being moved! What utter b******s! See that some Wire fans are worried their Barca trip might go the same way! As for people spending the week in the South of France maybe some will but I'm sure most would be going on Friday or Saturday to return on Sunday. Would be great if a nice 'Up yours Sky' banner could be held up at the Leeds game (televised)! Or maybe some kind of chant including the words Murdoch, Sky, satellite dish, stick , up your, a**e?'"
To the toonage of She'll be coming round the mountain
You can stick yer effing sky dish up yer a*se
You can stick yer effing sky dish up yer a*se
Don't you move our effing derby
move our effing derby
stick yer effing sky dish up yer a*se
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"[size=75Would this be a bad time to mention i'm pleased about this decision as it means I can watch it on TV? [/size
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"[size=75Would this be a bad time to mention i'm pleased about this decision as it means I can watch it on TV? [/size
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| this situation is a bad one,feel right sorry for the fans left in the lerch here,does anyone have a figure of hoiw many was going?
i have booked to go barca to watch the wire against them with 3 others if that had been changed i would have been knocking on someones door at the rfl looking for me money.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"[size=75Would this be a bad time to mention i'm pleased about this decision as it means I can watch it on TV? [/size
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"As for people spending the week in the South of France maybe some will but I'm sure most would be going on Friday or Saturday to return on Sunday.'"
With the current economic climate and the Euro/Sterling exchange rate how many can afford to do that? We might be Pimm's-drinking yuppies, but we're not that rich! i wasn't intending to go anyway, but if I had I'd have booked to leave Friday morning and come home Sunday afternoon.
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| A. Club had no choice but to agree to the fixture change. They may have made representations to the RFL & it's broadcasting partner regarding travelling support but it appears that these have been ignored.
B. The RFL and it's broadcast partner would not have done this to Leeds, Warrington, St Helen's or indeed any other Super League club bar Celtic Crusaders.
C. The RFL has to work with supporters and it's broadcast partner to ensure that this kind of debacle does not happen in future seasons.
D. How much do Quins get paid for appearing on a televised match as the away side?????
E. If Quins fans spoke with "one voice" could this debacle have been avoided??
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| Quote ="The Lambeth Quin"A. Club had no choice but to agree to the fixture change. They may have made representations to the RFL & it's broadcasting partner regarding travelling support but it appears that these have been ignored.
B. The RFL and it's broadcast partner would not have done this to Leeds, Warrington, St Helen's or indeed any other Super League club bar Celtic Crusaders.
C. The RFL has to work with supporters and it's broadcast partner to ensure that this kind of debacle does not happen in future seasons.
D. How much do Quins get paid for appearing on a televised match as the away side?????
E. If Quins fans spoke with "one voice" could this debacle have been avoided??'"
A. Agreed
B. Very much agreed
D. Probably not as much as the home side
E. Probably not we would have been ignored anyway!
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| Quote ="Homer"To the toonage of She'll be coming round the mountain
You can stick yer effing sky dish up yer a*se
You can stick yer effing sky dish up yer a*se
Don't you move our effing derby
move our effing derby
stick yer effing sky dish up yer a*se'"
Quality!
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"Quality!'"
Definitely.
And as loudly as possible at home to Leeds in a couple of weeks time, I think.
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| Quote Would this be a bad time to mention i'm pleased about this decision as it means I can watch it on TV? '"
Coming from you Listy thats funny
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| What I don't understand is that I have just watched highlights of the Dragons Leeds game with perfectly acceptable coverage from a French broadcaster. If the reason for the switch is that Sky cannot get their gear from the North of England to the South of France by Saturday why can't they use a feed from the French or use their gear?
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