never have i seen such a poor pack of forwards, although it is hard to tell who are forwards are. Poor old sharp and melling do more carting the ball up then our second row and loose forward combined. I can't get over what has happened to our pack since the great win over hkr. Any ideas?

Just shows how we miss Temata who has been damned good for us this season

Yes, what happened to tamatta?

Hughesy said that our recruitment is sorted!! when I spoke to him. Wilkes, Esders and Matt James I think he said-he did say we needed a centre

Worrying

Obviously some trouble in t'camp, based on a WAG sat behind me having a real go at one of our Antipodean's efforts today.

I have raised this issue before. There is no way we can address strength in depth by releasing eight players and bringing in three. It just doesn't work.

Even more of a concern is the fact it fails to address the real issues in the team. Yes we need a stronger pack, but we need a bit more strike behind it.

If we were having a no holds bar clean out then I would feel a lot better about next season than I do right now.

In 2004 we were terrible, so for 2005 players like McLinden, Dorn, Leuluai, Williams, Haumono, Hopkins, Ty Smith were recruited. Whilst not all of them were well known, it did improve on field performances.

This whole “not much needs fixing” attitude is insulting. Hull are having a full scale clean out, yet we've only collected 2pts more than them.

If we have very little money then please tell us, rather than insisting we have a really strong squad and are spending near the cap.

Only once have I felt more depressed at the end of a season than I do now. We had played our last game at the Valley after Branson pulled out and we were unsure whether we had seen our last game.

Now we have a coach who "Doesn’t know what's gone wrong” his words, a team which lacks any flair, a recruitment policy which will see us languishing near or at the bottom of the league and fans, so disillusioned, that we will be lucky to average 2,000 next season.

Priceless thread.

If thats all we're signing and a centre i worry about next year.

Too many wet performances. Players trying but not good enough i would care but not this lot. Well i'm not bothering with a season ticket next year and neither are the 3 three people with me.

Today was embarrassing. Some Cas fans afterwards said "we played quite well, but [the margin of Quins' defeat was more down to you playing e" or words to that effect. It was worse than the hammering we took in the same fixture last year, when we had loads of players unavailable.

I don't believe Brian Mac has suddenly become a hopeless coach (as opposed to a relatively inexperienced young coach achieving moderately encouraging results with a small club) but either he's "lost" the dressing room or there's a massive rift between different factions of players in our squad. There seemed to be a real stench about today's performance.

I'll renew my season ticket, probably at a cheaper rate, but right now I'm not sorry I won't see Quins for another five months.

Something is seriously wrong. Once again we looked like a team resigned to defeat. If there is rift then McDermott should be the one to sort it out but its been there for weeks. Enough is enough. People won't pay money to see this.

Difficult to do with players on contracts.

Isn't Littler a centre?

I think I just wet myself

Suddenly, I'm feeling a bit happier!

Mmmmm....maybe it has already happened. Didn't Mac say on the Radio that it wouldn't bother him if he were sacked?

That's fecking depressing if it's true. Next year we'll be lining up with a team full of average second-row forwards.

and the wingers will still be making the hard yards inside our own 20 metres

If Mac does stay, then i have said this before, but i feel he needs to bring in a new attacking coach to work with. He need someone who knows SL, you only have to look around the other teams in SL and most the other coaches have a ex SL player as an assisant in the backroom staff..

could this not be the way for us to go.

And on the other hand if Mac was to go, who is there out there who can take over at Quins for next season. When you look at the SL table out of the top eight, six have Aussie/NZ coaches.

At the moment I'm totally dispondent about the club. I deliberately didn't post anything yesterday to try and calm down before I put something on here, but, right now there's

NO PRIDE
NO PASSION
NO SKILL
NO CLUE

enough about Listy, what about the club


Seriously, I agree and can't remember being this dispondent over 24hrs after a game.....terrible

Very good summary of where we are right now.

I didn't mention Billy Pedens replacement is coming from St Marie's!! already signed

Are you still drunk????