It was an interesting one because there was nothing I could do! Apart from possibly penalizing him for un gentemanly conduct, what is the penalty?

I know it is hard to believe, but the touch judge did see it.

Mark Ioane (London Broncos) pleaded not guilty to a Grade C dangerous contact charge in the Kingstone Press Championship match against Toulouse Olympique XIII on June 17th. The player was found guilty, suspended for two matches and fined £100.

We don't need that

Dangerous tackle !??? What a joke

Ridiculous decision!!!

Not an expert by any means but I have seen similar tackles many times. If that tackle was deemed dangerous then best we make rugby league a non contact sport!

I await with interest as to whether Wilkin gets a ban for what he got sin binned for last night. To me it was much worse than what happened with Mark.

Not wanting to sound bias but it's an absolutely scandalous decision from the RFL.
If the Toulouse player had not been injured in the incident then nothing would of been said.
Perfectly legal and good tackle!

It's a worrying precedent to set in my opinion.

Not wanting to sound bias but it's an absolutely scandalous decision from the RFL

Its not you sounding biased its what many a London fan knows we get hit harder than any other club. What you are saying is true and honest and nothing else can be added.

Doom gloom, everyone hates us!

No one is saying that everyone hates us and it is infantile of you to put that. What we are saying is a fact we get the rough end of the stick. You can't / won't see it as you appear to believe refs are wonderful. I wish I had your faith in them all but I dont and appreciate some are great, some are good, some are mediocre and some are bloody useless.

Not disagreeing, refs are the same as players you have the stars then you have those that are not the stars
reality is the bloke who blows the whistle tries to do the best he can in any game, exactly the same as players, some folk on here think we deserve the elite level or that every ref should be elite level
my comment was aimed at the whinging mark got a ban
in the opinion of the ref it needed looking at
the disip looked at it and agreed it was dangerous
we don't get treated any different to any other club despite what folk think.

I dont expect elite refs at this level however I do expect refs who are capable of doing the job and that is often not what we get. As for Mark he did not deserve the punishment he got and nor did Daniel Harrison when you look at our disciplinary record against most other teams we are fairly innocent and look at these particular tackles against other teams and you will then agree as a team they have been harshly treated. I am not suggesting for a moment they did not deserve penalties against us but match bans and fines - come on.

Difference being if a player is useless their contract is not renewed if a Ref is useless he carries on refereeing and getting paid to be useless. I do not know if you have noticed but the Sky commentating team are making a lot more comments on the bad refereeing decisions this season.

If refs under perform they dont get the better games, if a ref performs well they get promoted to better games like Gareth hewer and challenge cup.
why do sky cririsise the refs half the time because they don't actually know the rules the other half of the time is to encourage controversy.
the reaility is our game is in danger of following the football path. Do any of us want that?
I still have not heard anyone come up with a solution!
Refs decisions are all part of the game, good or bad, the better teams accept it and get on with it, look at RU did the all blacks whinge about refs decisions, nope they looked at there own game not trying to pass the buck

The refs argument can go on for ages and it will, the thing in this thread is the discip panel looked at the incident on video and refs report, it was deemed dangerous, he got fiound guilty and given a ban in line with the published guide lines, why is that wrong? We get treated the same as any club apart from one thing! And that's the ability to go in front of the panel in person as it's held at red hall, as a full time club though we should be able to release the players to travel to Leeds.
The panel use the same guide lines for every club, so not sure how folk think we are hard done by.

Scott Moore (Bradford Bulls) pleaded not guilty to a Grade C dangerous contact charge in the Kingstone Press Championship match against Rochdale Hornets on June 18th. The player was found guilty, suspended for two matches and fined £100.

Bet the Bradford fans are saying the same as us
Looks pretty standard to me

The RFL use the disciplinary panel to flex their muscles, to give the impression that they are in control of the sport. Where in reality on the administration and commercial sides they are rank amateurs. IMHO

What might be worth doing as well is looking at the match review list of referred incidents, have a look as a club what we have had so far this season, and how many resulted in no charge compared to any ban.
It also gives a pretty detailed description of why the decision was made, and interestingly that the only counter evidence given by the club was Hendon by phone not the player in person.

Red, it may be but it's what we have so we accept it or follow another sport.

It's a long way to go for a ten minute meeting when the decision has already been made.

someone did that on facebook. we had been up before the disciplinary 6 times this season and had two charges. Wigan if I remember correctly were 58 times before the disciplinary and 6 charges oh well I am sure you can turn this to your advantage northernbloke. What is the percentage of charge for london and the percentage for Wigan. Seem to remember Warrington were as high as Wigan and as low in the charge department. maybe the whole thing ought to be analysed by a truly independent panel

Having watched this afternoons Catalan Leigh game, my respect for Mr Hewer as a referee is even lower than that of Mr Hicks.

Mr hewer ...oh dear oh dear oh dear

If you take like for like, so instead of looking at Wigan Warrington etc look at other championship teams. Look at KR Dewsbury Oldham Halifax instead.

Then you can choose to look at it two ways glass hall full or half empty.
Half full we have only been in front of the panel 6 times compare that to the other teams most are well into double figures
Half empty out of the 6 2 have resulted in charges. The RFL must hate us, Toulouse have 7 with 3 charges!

Look at any organisation that has discip hearings, look at the countries judiciary that hold hearings. If you get charged with any offence in any situation chances are if you can't be bothered to make the effort to appear before that hearing then the outcome is likely to be worse than if you do appear, it's fact. We hardly ever send the player up to red hall to explain what his thoughts on the action were, so the club does very little to help the panel.

For me I look at the positive, we have only had 6 events referred which has to be a positive.