The details quite clearly say membership is for Super League games.

No, that's not what I suggested at all.
Fans of the club will attend games, which is expected, but it is you happily marching towards a TK Membership, grinning from ear to ear whilst handing over the cash for your 12 month membership (or you'll pay the joining fee again) like nothing has happened, that will make Gus et al feel justified in the way they have messed with the club, the business and the fans.
As many have said, 'we've moved and there's SFA we can de about it"......but to BLINDLY ACCEPT this new order is to condone the shocking way in which friends, colleagues and other members of the club staff have been treated, not to mention the total and utter disregard for the fans.

If you are asked to swallow and do so with a smile on your face, don't be surprised when the desert course arrives and it's brown!

Is Gutters the only one to see that the Emperors new attire is in the buff?

Well said that man. I will of course will continue support the team but with no illusions as to the path we are on currently.

Listening to New England by Billy Bragg......how apt.

"I don't feel bad about letting you go.......I just feel sad about letting you know."

Same for wife, son and I. Cost and time involved means we'll pick and choose games rather than go to all and probably do some away games which are not that much further than the trip to London.

"No, that's not what I suggested at all.
Fans of the club will attend games, which is expected, but it is you happily marching towards a TK Membership, grinning from ear to ear whilst handing over the cash for your 12 month membership (or you'll pay the joining fee again)"

Where in any of my threads did I say I was going to get a membership deal?
Who says I am blindly accepting?

So if I turn up and pay to watch my team play then I am playing in to Gus's cunning plan! Whats that plan? folk watching London Broncos rugby league play rugby league.
so what are you suggesting? that I don't go because Gus is, well you decide what he is?
Tell you what we will go with your suggested plan of not condoning the club management way of doing things by not turning up! result no fans at all! result no club!
So am interested what you think! support the club or don't support em?

support them, but for god's sake, don't defend anything that is being delivered by the management as a beneficial new dawn....it is nothing other than a complete clusterf**k.

I want to be a London Broncos fan in 2016......a fan of a professional team flying the flag in SUPERLEAGUE for the sport.....with this convoluted hash of bollox and bull it isn't going to happen!

www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/515 ... tjlP59FDqA So with Solomona now confirmed it gives us a Squad of 19, still at least 6 players short. Apart from 2 from Wigan, the rumour mill has dried up! Oh dear

www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/515 ... tjlP59FDqA So with Solomona now confirmed it gives us a Squad of 19, still at least 6 players short. Apart from 2 from Wigan, the rumour mill has dried up! Oh dear

100% spot on, especially the last part, I'll be going to the Salford, Widnes, KR and Bradford games, plus any others I can squeeze in. But the Pies, Leeds etc, nah.

However, remember the St Helens game last season, I'm glad I changed my mind on that one! The thrill of beating one of the Big Guns is so superior to winning against sides in the bottom half, really it is.

I think counting 19 is being a bit generous, about half of them are not experienced players but youngsters who were thrown in and points last season because we had nobody else, even our kolpaks are reserve grade players. Scott Moore and Matt Cook will be our "old heads", and Olsi is going to be our veteran prop, it is really quite scary. I'm all for giving young players a go, but you need a mix, and unless our next 6 signings are all decent experienced players then we risk bringing the game into disrepute by fielding a team that would struggle to beat some of the better Championship sides. How is it going to look if we get battered every week, we've seen where that has led for the last couple of seasons with weak squads, and this season's squad is looking like a Championship squad?

And then came .... Ben Ross

I don't have the figures from 2013, but I do have the financials from 2008-2012. What I can say is that there were a number of ways the club could reduce the losses they were incurring and the route they have taken would appear to be the one that involved the least amount of ingenuity and hard work.

In 2012 the London Broncos made an operating loss of just over £2.2 million. The revenue streams that they had, including RFL/SKY money, Tickets, corporates and sponsors was just under £2.2 million.

The outgoings included £300,000 in Marketing and marketing Wages, £530,000 in administration costs, £220,000 in match-day costs, £520,000 in Coaching costs????, £130,000 on the Academy and a whopping £2.7 million on "first team costs". I take it this last figure is for everything, including travel, accommodation etc and not that we are busting the cap by a million



The Move to the Hive is supposedly designed to reduce the burden on Mr Hughes, who in 2012 had to find £2.2 million.

We have little if any Admin staff left after the "cull" at the end of the season, wrapped up in a blanket of bull called "redundancies", which would account for £530,000 in administration costs (not counting Gus's salary of course).
Match day expenses that were £220,000 are apparently included in this new dawn.
Marketing is supposedly the responsibility of the Hive now, so another £300,000 saved there.
Not sure about the academy at present, but let's leave them out of this for now, so based on 2012, the move to the Hive has cut costs by £1,050,000 in return for giving up income of £550,000.

£500,000 is the supposed benefit of this move (I don't know how much we are paying for underhill). at £30 a visit to the club, in match day ticketing and residual takings, that is 1,282 more fans per game......Gus has shed 1,167 fans from each game over 3 seasons......Hmmmm

So, it could be argued that to make up for the total and abject failure of the club to attract fans....in fact, their success in shedding them, Gus fired everyone in sight and is instead, paying rent on a new office and training pitch whilst passing all responsibility for commercial activity to the new landlord.

If it was an episode of the BBC programme Hustle, it would be up for a BAFTA!

The MacKay family motto.

As I have said many times WHY IS THIS CEO CLOWN STILL EMPLOYED. FIRST QUESTION AT A FANS FORUM.

A forum may be the only way you'll get Paddock Punter to visit the Hive

And then went Ben Ross apparently

I won't waste my time.

Oh go on.....egg him! It'd be a Youtube sensation and probably get more views than his viral video of 2012

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=482tDopNzoc/urlIf only Gus would go viral[/url

You left viral in

As the song says Gus is a plague.

Plagues don't leave they have to be eradicated.

just aquick q for gutters!
yr new dawn! how is it going to happen! Obviously you want rid of gus! so do you have someone else to do the job?
You dont seem to think D Hughes does the Club any good! So who you got in mind?
The Hive is rubbish! where else are we gonna play?
you have been very good with all the figures from the past, and you doom monger everything that happens (quite rightly sometimes) you give everyone the impression that supporting the club is a vindication of everything therefore supporting the club is wrong.
What is your answer? do you have a money man? do you have a better option?

Micky, stay at the Stoop, market the product and win more than you loose. It's not Rocket science, but it was to a certain person.

Paddock the problem is we are not staying at the stoop, I actualy agree the stoop is best stadium wehave been in.
Fact is the club owners have decided thats not gonna happen, I am just at a loss with gutters constant comments against what the situation is without solutions!
if dh goes who pays the bills? Who will replace gus imo I think he will go anyway. Thats beside the point tho.
at the stoop the club were not allowed access to all the facilities on match day, quins did not really want us anymore.
I agree broncos are in dire straits, but we are still here, and hopefully will be for many years, but constant whinging without actual answers is just that whinging