There is a better first grade team than LB over the road from the gills winning 70 - 10 today. Hope LB do not move, in my opinion it will be a disaster for the local club.

there's a difference between paying lip service and being a community club......our current community,as in TW2 residents, don't know we exist.......if we were a community club,they'd be up in arms about us leaving the community...

You seriously believe the Broncos' community is only the 2 square miles around Twickenham?

I'm surprised to hear that the locals don't know we exist, as years ago, they used to complain about when the games were played.

Anyone on here remember that? Something to do with the noise, the floodlights.

If we were a community club then we would have the support of the community.....we don't!



2006 + not a soul knows we are there.......not a soul.

Nope, it was before that. In the late 90s at the stoop. I even have an inkling of a neuron firing that we moved a game because of residents complaints. Think it was either night games or Sunday ones.

Can any fan from back then confirm / remember that?

As I said, the locals do know we are there. Question is. Are they interested?

Fully accept that the first time around, especially when the Aussies were in town for WCC, that London being at the stoop was a pain for the neighbours.....the residents of TW2 at the time also put the mockers on Pavarotti over in the big house as well IIRC...

The point about 2006 onwards is that no attempt has been made to let the locals know we're back.....as per usual, we just turned up, stuck posts in the ground and expected to sell tickets....

Completely correct, it is just one of the theories from gutterfax with no substance! The people of TW2 are not interested in the main.

I was speaking to someone at the game on Saturday who is also a London Welsh ST holder. They live 500 yards from the Stoop and hadn't had any marketing at them!

But we know they don't spend money on marketing. GF has pointed that out once or twice.

It was a Sunday night game we were not allowed the flood lights. I dont think the Stoop had flood lights back in those days the used to bring them along on lorries.

no substance eh?

Feel free to point out the attempts (2000-2013) to engage the immediate neighbours (say 2 sq miles).
St Margarets to whitton, Strawberry Hill to Isleworth......the neighbours.

Get real, I would suggest that they are no more or less interested than any other part of London. There is no evidence that where we have played has any significant influence on attendances.

I live in TW2 and I have not seen the club make any concerted attempt to attract people to games.

If the club are as disinterested in promoting the club in a new location then the results are likely to be exactly the same.

Or even worse since some of the current support will leak and may not be replaced by "newcomers".

Indeed.

It would seem that the only thing with no substance is your comment above. I am happy to wait for the comprehensive llist of activity in the TW2 postcode carried out by the club in the hope of attracting local residents to the game......

FWIW, I believe that the handing out of flyers to fans making their way to the Big House across the road in 2011 for the Barbarians v Australia match there on November 26th, is the one and only time the club attempted anything in the TW2 postcode.

They have begun placinf generic adverts in the free sheets surrounding Twickenham this year, but in reality, that horse has long bolted.

Feel free to put me right on my unsubstantiated asssertion...I look forward to the documented evidence to back up your claim.

[iBTW....David Huges is the one quoted as saying the locals aren't interested......how the would he know? He has presided over the worst period on and off the pitch in the clubs SL history....he has no interest in anything other than match day and being able to watch his "toy", he employed the current CEO on the basis of a recommendation and 1 interview, he appointed Rob Powell against the advice of everyone and has in all probability killed the club as a direct reult of his futile game of Chicken with the RFL over marketing the game in the SE....
...PLEASE...Tell me how I am supposed to take his comments about the residents of TW2 with anything other than a pinch of salt.[/i
I freely admit to the part [iabove [/ibeing my opinion regarding the role of DH in the decline of the club.....if you have an opinion that differs, then again, I have no doubt you will back it up with tales of the marketing and research done in Twickenham, conter evidence that he wasn't advised not to appoint Powell, he did actually interview more than 1 person for the CEO's position and he hasn't steadfastly refused to finance any meaningful marketing by the club.

Quote ="Rooster Booster"I'm surprised to hear that the locals don't know we exist, as years ago, they used to complain about when the games were played. Anyone on here remember that? Something to do with the noise, the floodlights.'" Nowadays, they are more concerned about this sort of thing www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.c ... ref=twtrec

Quote ="Rooster Booster"I'm surprised to hear that the locals don't know we exist, as years ago, they used to complain about when the games were played. Anyone on here remember that? Something to do with the noise, the floodlights.'" Nowadays, they are more concerned about this sort of thing www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.c ... ref=twtrec

GF, haven't you just provided 2 examples of the club actually doing something? Something you have said they don't do!

The latter (adverts) being evidence of actually trying to attract locals? Still, they do something and it's after the horse and all that in your honest opinion of course. They can't win can they. Unless they listened to you eh?

Fuck me....do you do thios purely to wind me up?

We moved back into the stoop in Feb 2006....flyers 3 months before the start of the 2012 season and adverts in local papers AFTER they've said this is our last year at the Stoop and you want to applaud them???????

Fucking hell....I don't care if they ignored the 20 point opus or did each and every one.....just so long as they actually did something...oyster card holders handed out at Canary Wharf and 12 London taxis liveried.....together with 2 viral videos shown in walkabouts and 3 (maybe) 4 adverts in Metro/ES.........7 and a half seasons marketing at the club....not forgetting the name change that did absolutely sweet all......and now the move so they can hide their ineptitude again.

Get a grip. I have a pop at them because they deserve to be targeted.....Hammersmith Hills Hoists are better run at present.

You need to remove your rose tinted specs by the way..1997 with 2nd place in the league and world club challenge games aside, the following 2 years saw crowds drop by 42%.......which are still 25% better than they are this year....due to Bransons total reluctance to market the game/club/games......

[i"They have begun placing generic adverts in the free sheets surrounding Twickenham this year"[/i

Where does it say I want to applaud them?

But you do care about your 20 point plan, you keep bringing it up again and again.

It looks by your own admission they did actually do something. But I was led to believe from your postings that they did NOTHING.

What rose tinted specs? Things are shıt. People who don’t agree with your comments, MUST be defending Gus or the club. That attitude is at times, both incredible and laughable.

P.S. If you get wound up you need to think why. All that's happened is someone has pointed out that you've contradicted yourself. Oh and everyone knows about the lack of marketing and aren't overly happy about it. You seem to forget that.

The Hive is easier for me to get to, and I'll be able to stand again.
It's a short list of plus points I grant you.

But you are disagreeing with me purely on the basis of your assertion that me saying the club have done nothing to attract our neighbours in TW2 and then saying they leafletted babaas fans in November 2011 and this year have placed adverts in local free sheets is some how contradictory.....it's not.

The clarify my stand point....the club have done nothing of any substance to attract "local" fans to games at the stoop.......and they have only just started placing adverts in the local paper AFTER THEY ANNOUNCED WE WERE LEAVING THE STOOP AT THE END OF THE YEAR



As for defending Gus = Disagreeing with me........it makes no difference if you are or you aren't defending Gus.....you seem to want to disagree with me on the lack of marketing...and where I bow to your superior knowledge of events on the park, my "hobby" is attendances at the club and a pretty detailed list of what they've done (SIC) since 2002........believe me, the effort and money spent since 2002 on marketing the club is less than a club like wigan spend in a season..

I am completely befuddled as to why you think I disagree with you on the lack of marketing.

Interesting topic www.onlybarnet.com/forum/viewtop ... f=3&t=5401 Been having a look at the most recent planning application to modify the stands and floodlights. Residents not happy, petition and angry letters. Most of them never knew planning permission had been granted for a football stadium in 2008. Give the residents a car parking zone, free season tickets, make them feel wanted and the applicants will get permission. www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... sults.page ( go to quick search on the left and put in application number P/0665/13 then documents) At least there are no conditions on the original planning permission restricting the number of events they can hold, unlike Copthall. The whole development looks excellent.

Interesting topic www.onlybarnet.com/forum/viewtop ... f=3&t=5401 Been having a look at the most recent planning application to modify the stands and floodlights. Residents not happy, petition and angry letters. Most of them never knew planning permission had been granted for a football stadium in 2008. Give the residents a car parking zone, free season tickets, make them feel wanted and the applicants will get permission. www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... sults.page ( go to quick search on the left and put in application number P/0665/13 then documents) At least there are no conditions on the original planning permission restricting the number of events they can hold, unlike Copthall. The whole development looks excellent.

Quote ="willow6666"Interesting topic www.onlybarnet.com/forum/viewtop ... f=3&t=5401 Been having a look at the most recent planning application to modify the stands and floodlights. Residents not happy, petition and angry letters. Most of them never knew planning permission had been granted for a football stadium in 2008. Give the residents a car parking zone, free season tickets, make them feel wanted and the applicants will get permission. www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... sults.page ( go to quick search on the left and put in application number P/0665/13 then documents) At least there are no conditions on the original planning permission restricting the number of events they can hold, unlike Copthall. The whole development looks excellent.'" Interesting reading Willow, well done for digging that lot up on t'web.

Quote ="willow6666"Interesting topic www.onlybarnet.com/forum/viewtop ... f=3&t=5401 Been having a look at the most recent planning application to modify the stands and floodlights. Residents not happy, petition and angry letters. Most of them never knew planning permission had been granted for a football stadium in 2008. Give the residents a car parking zone, free season tickets, make them feel wanted and the applicants will get permission. www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... sults.page ( go to quick search on the left and put in application number P/0665/13 then documents) At least there are no conditions on the original planning permission restricting the number of events they can hold, unlike Copthall. The whole development looks excellent.'" Interesting reading Willow, well done for digging that lot up on t'web.