Did you expect anything else?

because they work for sky and clearly couldn't make themselves look bad

I’m still awaiting my cut and paste reply from Craig Spence, given that he seems to have done his selective mail out of the same email to a few at random today I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t see it.

Regarding his interview with Rammo tonight, I can’t decide if it’s the RFL trying to shift the blame, or whether Quins really did under estimate our away support. Apparently, according to Mr Spence, Quins suggested that those who would have traveled were most likely to go for a longer break, plus, Quins believed that not that many would travel at all.

Someone somewhere isn’t telling us the full story, meanwhile Sky, unsurprisingly, aren’t telling anyone anything, and I don’t expect them to either.

Well, amlomax1991 has been invited to meet the Sky people including the Executive Producer for RL (who has been in that position since the start of SL, I believe).

Maybe they'd be amenable to meeting a small delegation?

Well if Quins management are part of the problem and don't expect many to travel maybe I will take them up on that for the future and cancel my "promise" to gutterfax to go on the wakey express.

So much for thinking the future looks bright and considering joining the away crew, but in the present economic climate and how supporters are viewed what is the point? I might as well stay at home.

However it is the players who suffer and deserve support not the idiots who call themselves administrators.

Think this is a good idea! At least it would make our feelings known.

Reading through this, it's all Sky TBH. Like here in Oz, TV determines when the fixtures will be played.

Maybe SKY are too naïve to realise that Quins fans like to go to France and many would have booked up well in advance.

As Gutterfax has said, it's more about trying to stop this happening again, unfortunately for some. As suggested, SKY/Superleague should just inform people of whom they're playing and on what weekend. Then specify the exact date a few weeks out!!!

I really feel for the poor bastårds that have been turned over on this one. It's a lot of dosh.

Quite an interesting idea to 'move' into the Lexcus at the Leeds game but regret to say & knowing our fans the actual numbers will not be that many - guess not more than 150 to 250.

However, it might help if the visiting Leeds supporters also squatted in the Lexcus - afterall it could be them next time.

Fans who decamp into the Lexcus need to do so at the last minute and so perhaps ensuring that the QRL 'stewards' are caught short i.e. with their pants down.

A few large 'protest' banners would also help. Finally think that post match Stevo & his side kick should be prevented from entering the main bar on the grounds of 'personal safety'........ .

Yes what a good idea it would be to move into a stand where their camears don't cover



Any more bright ideas?

Whilst I am as, if not more, annoyed than anyone one about the fixture switch, I would suggest that any attempt to occupy the Lexus would only alienate the club even more.
As I have mentioned, the North Stand is open for this game and therefore, would make a better venue for those who wished to protest.

The last thing the club, or in fact the supporters of the club want is for people to be ejected/banned from the Stoop.

As for banners......I suspect that if there was a 50ft one slagging off SKY, then it might well be 3ft, as it won't get any air-time from....er.....the very people it is slagging off.

As it's highly unlikely QRL supporters could or would ever engage in an organised protest against the club or SKY, even if one were required or deemed productive can I suggest instead that you alter the wording on your "The end of the world is nigh" boards normally worn at speakers corner to whatever message you want to reflect your own brand of lunacy.

Again you won't get noticed on SKY as in general turkeys don't vote for Christmas........it will however give the rest of us something to laugh about in these bleak times.

Do Quins get any money from the travelling fans? No, so why should they care?
Do Sky get any money from travelling fans? No, so why should they care?

I reckon the only group interested would be Perpignan/Catalans and then would they rock the boat over 1000 travelling fans (£20k) when they risk the big money from Sky?

Sky's contract probably gives them authority to have anything they deem "offensive" (to themselves) to be removed.

Not true....otherwise wiggy would have gone long ago

Hold up, where has the last few posts gone?

If "someone" know who is to blame for this fiasco they should be named and shamed regardless of who it is, many of our fans have either lost a large amount of money or will miss the game, the deserve the truth.

Graeme what was the content. You must have read them to know they are missing

I've seen them, I can't really say anything but don't worry, you haven't missed out on anything.

Just me blowing off steam.....so move along, nothing to see here

No, you have been told what happened and who was responsible, those who are out of pocket deserve to know who to point the finger at.

Seems to me everyone is trying to blame each other, i.e. RFL saying its Sky, then this guy blaming Quins for saying we dont take many supporters. Myself where i think he got that idea from is,somebody at Quins must have had a look at how many if any had book thoguht the Club or Catalan Tours and come up with a silly answer.

Have to admit that guy from RFL on radio last night. made me laugh when he said "well we moved a Wigan game at Catalans once before and they didnt mind", only to add it was at was at a start of a season and they did have a few months notice.

, and how kind they have been in giving us 6 weeks notce instead of the normal 4



But even so the one thing is EITHER of them, Sky or RFL have yet said why they had to move it to a Sunday, Unless i missed that,but i'm sure i didnt

Unfortunately, I suspect the sad economic reality is that putting 20 or 30 or 100 people in this position every time when this happens will not deter Sky from doing it again. It's not their money - and if 10% or 50% of those people cancel their Sky subscriptions in protest, it's a drop in the ocean to them.

It wasn't very clever of the RFL man to come out and say it out loud, but he is right - the numbers involved are small. Very annoying if you are one of them (as I am - have now lost wads of money changing our plans) - but ultimately small numbers of people affected in the scheme of things, and hence nothing we can do.

Now that I am spending a small fortune to see this game, we had better bloody well win.

No your wrong BG ....... suggest you check what the Sun wrote about that particular 'frog'.......it was much worse than my remark.......

Did not hear the radio broadcast, but this `small numbers` thing is a total red herring..........did the RFL man happen to mention what `numbers` criteria is being applied?......When does an acceptable number of inconvenienced fans become unacceptable.....is 100, 250, 1000???

As most fans from all clubs travel under their own steam for the Catalan game, how did the RFL or anybody else for that matter arrive at a number that would be inconvenienced?

The reality is that the Catalan game is a special game where many fans who do not normally travel to away games make that extra effort, so normal travelling numbers in the UK do not apply.

I am still none the wiser as to why the game was moved and what criteria (if any) was applied which made someone think it was fine to do so......but then again what do I know, I am just a dumb fan who was travelling to France, had booked holiday, paid for flights, booked accomodation etc, only to see it all undone and to end up our of pocket.

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